Austria AUSTRIA 2025 - JJ - Wasted Love

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[gingerale]

The EBU seems increasingly focused on the commercial impact of the contest on the wider music industry (so is Melodifestivalen), so I wouldn't be surprised if they revise the jury criteria again soon.

I doubt that. Otherwise they wouldn't have removed the juries from the semi finals. The overall quality is in decline which makes it more difficult to have a lasting impact in the music industry.

EBU focus is to produce the biggest entertainment show. More buzz, more viewers, more sponsors, more money.

 

[Aries]

I doubt that. Otherwise they wouldn't have removed the juries from the semi finals. The overall quality is in decline which makes it more difficult to have a lasting impact in the music industry.

EBU focus is to produce the biggest entertainment show. More buzz, more viewers, more sponsors, more money.

Eurovision's relevance was waning until Måneskin's 2021 win so it's a bit off to say the EBU doesn't care about producing commercially successful songs. They definitely want the buzz, but they're also using platforms like TikTok, just as the music industry does, to try and make songs go viral and maintain their mainstream appeal. Some artists won't even participate unless they see potential for success after the contest, which indicates how important that is. If Eurovision can demonstrate commercial success post-contest, it would significantly boost it overall. Melodifestivalen and UMK serve as the primary examples of that.

 

[marty]

Eurovision's relevance was waning until Måneskin's 2021 win so it's a bit off to say the EBU doesn't care about producing commercially successful songs. They definitely want the buzz, but they're also using platforms like TikTok, just as the music industry does, to try and make songs go viral and maintain their mainstream appeal. Some artists won't even participate unless they see potential for success after the contest, which indicates how important that is. If Eurovision can demonstrate commercial success post-contest, it would significantly boost it overall. Melodifestivalen and UMK serve as the primary examples of that.

I think that gingerale is absolutely right. EBU focuses on the show, Eurovision is 70 years old and it never had a relevance for the music industry. every now and then there is a commercially successful song but that has always been like that. EBU uses TikTok to address a younger crowd and that works.

 

[Melodi_]

To be honest, it would be ideal for to lead the odds, letting KAJ keep their televoting underdog charm hehe.

Nice song but lots of expectation to deliver.

 

[aef]

To be honest, it would be ideal for to lead the odds, letting KAJ keep their televoting underdog charm hehe.

Nice song but lots of expectation to deliver.

is not a televoting underdog at all?!

 

[Fluke]

I think this has a great chance of being #1 with the juries because it's basically a pop song, more so than "Tout l'univers" or "Zero Gravity" which were kind of weird in structure, in a way this isn't. I also think he can do very well, even #1 in televote because the song stands out from anything else in the contest this year. Still wouldn't bet too much on it though.

 

[Melodi_]

Martin Österdahl should cancel the contest if opera wins before anyone has performed #ElinaNechayevaROBBED.

Funny - she was #1 in the odds for a while in 2018

 

[Trece]

Just because you've got the best voice doesn't mean you'll win the jury.

Arguable he hasn’t got the best voice, there are much more stronger and professional, for example Justyna. Since Eurofans are mostly pop listeners opera voice sounds wow to them but actually go to the opera in any random city and you can find opera singers even better than JJ. The case they are just trying to repeat Nemo (Czechia joins team) mixing opera, modern sounds, electro music etc.
Still find his voice too high pitched and annoying for my ears, İ cant believe such voicr can have wide appeal

Funny - she was #1 in the odds for a while in 2018

France 2009 also

 

[marty]

Arguable he hasn’t got the best voice, there are much more stronger and professional, for example Justyna. Since Eurofans are mostly pop listeners opera voice sounds wow to them but actually go to the opera in any random city and you can find opera singers even better than JJ. The case they are just trying to repeat Nemo (Czechia joins team) mixing opera, modern sounds, electro music etc.
Still find his voice too high pitched and annoying for my ears, İ cant believe such voicr can have wide appeal

France 2009 also

Eurofans only have little influence on the result and to win eurovision wide appeal is also not necessary. with 26 entries its quite a small percentage that votes for the winner. how the juries will vote always is difficult to predict, its easier to predict how the televoters will vote but that also depends on the running order we dont know now.

 

[Mrlazzyjazzy]

This song is kinda generic, even with the operatic chorus. I've heard this same midtempo structure, and that same drum loop every year of the contest. This year is crazy because I thought people were over jury bait songs but the online reaction with hardcore ESC fans is that is not the case.

 

[Lindon]

Just only a 2% gap between JJ and Sweden in the odds

Hello insiders! I just read that ORF is throwing a lot of money into rhe staging. True?

 

[deletingpoint]

I gave this another listen to keep an open mind and all that, but it's still a big no from me. Though the fact that i keep hearing voice of love instead of wasted love makes the lyrics a bit better actually.

 

[marty]

Just only a 2% gap between JJ and Sweden in the odds

Hello insiders! I just read that ORF is throwing a lot of money into rhe staging. True?

what we know:
sergio jaen is the stage director, for sure not the cheapest choice
the staging will be similar to the video
it will be very intimate
JJ will be alone on stage the whole performance
there will be a boat and waves
it will include an element never seen on the esc stage (I am obviously not the only one who believes it will be rain)

I think the first part of the video easily can be transferred to the stage, the waves and water with the led background. I wonder how they will manage the transitions between the different scenes. and the biggest questionmark for me is the last part. we know there wont be any other people on stage thus it will be different from the video.

in recent years we havent got any infos about the austrian staging beforehand. this year is different.

 

[Datura]

what we know:
sergio jaen is the stage director, for sure not the cheapest choice
the staging will be similar to the video
it will be very intimate
JJ will be alone on stage the whole performance
there will be a boat and waves
it will include an element never seen on the esc stage (I am obviously not the only one who believes it will be rain)

I think the first part of the video easily can be transferred to the stage, the waves and water with the led background. I wonder how they will manage the transitions between the different scenes. and the biggest questionmark for me is the last part. we know there wont be any other people on stage thus it will be different from the video.

in recent years we havent got any infos about the austrian staging beforehand. this year is different.

From what i know the "never seen element" is most likely a "transforming object" and the way this is filmed / broadcast (which i'm not sure if i'm a big fan of). No (real) water though if i'm informed correctly

There are similarities with parts of the music video but overall it seems quite different

 

[Melodi_]

Just only a 2% gap between JJ and Sweden in the odds

Hello insiders! I just read that ORF is throwing a lot of money into rhe staging. True?

I have seen people say “I'm betting on Austria because everyone says they're winning” which just indicates fear of missing out and confirmation bias. Maybe fairer winning chance is closer to 11-14% instead of 21% without a performance.

 

[Lindon]

In recent years, bets have become self-fulfilling prophecies.

 

[Melodi_]

In recent years, bets have become self-fulfilling prophecies

Maybe during the week of rehearsals but it’s March.

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

I still dunno if the casuals are going to like this? In terms of the fandom, it's doing well on the Scoreboard app but when I read the fan opinions online I don't see huge 'love' for it generally.

 

[aelunic]

This has become one of my absolute favorites. It has officially entered the list of "songs I would not be mad if end up winning".

 

[Lindon]

I still dunno if the casuals are going to like this? In terms of the fandom, it's doing well on the Scoreboard app but when I read the fan opinions online I don't see huge 'love' for it generally.

I noticed this too. There is a gap between the reaction videos, where you can see often a astounding physical reaction and comments for instance on ESC- kompakt.Maybe it has to do with poor staging and vocal performances in the past.