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So, the irish nf was tonight and the choreographer that did Bobbi Arlo's staging will also be working on Henka's staging and that worries me a lot... From what he published on instagram it seems they had like 2 days(?) to do the choreo for Bobbi Arlo and the announcement that he would be working with Henka was made on december, mentioning that Henka's staging would be their first live project, so timeline-wise Bobbi Arlo's project came sometime after that and that gives a bit of hope that whatever they have done or are doing with Henka will be 1000x better, less messy and more memorable. Henka needs a winning performance and even tough I've been already mourning her not winning the nf, I still want her to blow everybody's socks.
 

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Diana Vilarinho - "Cotovia" 💞

I will just say that, it will be ENOUGH...
 

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So, the irish nf was tonight and the choreographer that did Bobbi Arlo's staging will also be working on Henka's staging and that worries me a lot... From what he published on instagram it seems they had like 2 days(?) to do the choreo for Bobbi Arlo and the announcement that he would be working with Henka was made on december, mentioning that Henka's staging would be their first live project, so timeline-wise Bobbi Arlo's project came sometime after that and that gives a bit of hope that whatever they have done or are doing with Henka will be 1000x better, less messy and more memorable. Henka needs a winning performance and even tough I've been already mourning her not winning the nf, I still want her to blow everybody's socks.
RTP has more budget and experience to deal with tv cuts for this kind of songs. And you are 101% right about Henks obligation to bring A game performance for the semifinal.
However, we know how RTP works. They should be in panic with the possibility of taking Henka to Basel.
 

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Oh and let me tell you... seems that Josh has dancers (or human presence 😉 ) for his staging. Streets from Cascais are pretty trustful.
From what I saw on his interviews, he is super motivated, knows eurovision really well and Edu (staging director) is serving.
 

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Diana Vilarinho - "Cotovia" 💞

I will just say that, it will be ENOUGH...
I do not want to be delulu, but at this point, I am pretty sure that Diana Vilarinho, Fernando Daniel, Josh, Henka and Peculiar would be very very likely qualifiers. Portugueses fans are so negative, but I am the one who is confident
 
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Oh and let me tell you... seems that Josh has dancers (or human presence 😉 ) for his staging. Streets from Cascais are pretty trustful.
From what I saw on his interviews, he is super motivated, knows eurovision really well and Edu (staging director) is serving.
EDU IS THE STAGING DIRECTOR?????? xcryxcryxcryxcryxcry
 

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Oh and let me tell you... seems that Josh has dancers (or human presence 😉 ) for his staging. Streets from Cascais are pretty trustful.
From what I saw on his interviews, he is super motivated, knows eurovision really well and Edu (staging director) is serving.
Yeaaa... I'm not sure what has exactly hapenned but Henka posted a instastory about haters a couple of days ago and she has the comments on her instastories turned off. From what I read in the in the lyrics videos the Josh fans have become rabid and I'm completly turned off by him...
In any case Napa's video will supass Josh number of views by the end of next week. These rabid fans will have a meltdown and they'll turn their hate against someone else or maybe they could just stop being a bunch whinny little c**ts? Yes? The later would be a better option...
 

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The TikTok algorithm took its time, but now Napa is finally showing up on my feed quite frequently. The song is good, but honestly, I don’t want my feed flooded with students from Madeira or the Azores expressing their homesickness.

And that’s exactly the question: is this the audience that will be willing to vote in large numbers? Financially speaking, an island student doesn’t typically have that much money… Will they actually spend it on voting? Or would they rather save it for a night out? In fact, will they even watch Festival da Canção that Saturday?

Wuant (one of the most famous YouTubers in Portugal among younger audiences) reviewed the songs on Twitch, where viewers could also vote between 1 and 3. The stream had an average of 300 votes, with Josh and Peculiar being the audience’s favorites. Henka also did quite well, I believe.
 

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I just don't want JOSH to be too eurovisionized, it will probably loose some charm then..
 

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I just don't want JOSH to be too eurovisionized, it will probably loose some charm then..
In festival da canção it will not happen. It's really hard to do it in RTP studios. I think the performance will be pretty magic because of that. Let's see. I trust in Edu, he is coming up with something great.
 
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As an ex student from Azores in the mainland, I can tell you... They will not pay to vote. At all. But the residents in Madeira will.
If we were not talking about RTP, this phenomenon could be dangerous. NAPA's song is ok, but smells like last place in Eurovision. Carla Bugalho knows the need of a good result this year.
 

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The TikTok algorithm took its time, but now Napa is finally showing up on my feed quite frequently. The song is good, but honestly, I don’t want my feed flooded with students from Madeira or the Azores expressing their homesickness.

And that’s exactly the question: is this the audience that will be willing to vote in large numbers? Financially speaking, an island student doesn’t typically have that much money… Will they actually spend it on voting? Or would they rather save it for a night out? In fact, will they even watch Festival da Canção that Saturday?

Wuant (one of the most famous YouTubers in Portugal among younger audiences) reviewed the songs on Twitch, where viewers could also vote between 1 and 3. The stream had an average of 300 votes, with Josh and Peculiar being the audience’s favorites. Henka also did quite well, I believe.
I think the people that connected with the song is higher than you think and it may be mostly students from Madeira and Azores doing the tiktoks, but students from mainland Portugal that had to move to another city to go to university would feel the same thing. Same applies to adults that had to move from their hometown due to work, either to another part of the country or outside of it and there's those that returned home but that could also connect with the feeling.
And a big and very important segment of the public that you should consider are the musicians and artists, the judges. You have to move to Lisbon or Oporto if you actually want to have a music career in Portugal, so they could win not only the regional jury panel from Madeira and Azores, but from most regions.
 

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Yeaaa... I'm not sure what has exactly hapenned but Henka posted a instastory about haters a couple of days ago and she has the comments on her instastories turned off. From what I read in the in the lyrics videos the Josh fans have become rabid and I'm completly turned off by him...
There is a mafia on YouTube every year playing and giving hate against other contestants. Last year, they were kinda divided between João Borsch and Iolanda, but in previous years was disgusting to read the comments boxes, especially in 2021 when NEEV flopped.
 

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I think the people that connected with the song is higher than you think and it may be mostly students from Madeira and Azores doing the tiktoks, but students from mainland Portugal that had to move to another city to go to university would feel the same thing. Same applies to adults that had to move from their hometown due to work, either to another part of the country or outside of it and there's those that returned home but that could also connect with the feeling.
And a big and very important segment of the public that you should consider are the musicians and artists, the judges. You have to move to Lisbon or Oporto if you actually want to have a music career in Portugal, so they could win not only the regional jury panel from Madeira and Azores, but from most regions.
I do not think so.
Galopim knows how to choose the juries. It is clear that have no chances with a 100% televote semifinal.
From my perspective, it is unlikely to see them passing over Josh, Diana Vilarinho, or Capital da Bulgária.
 

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Oh well...
 

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I think the people that connected with the song is higher than you think and it may be mostly students from Madeira and Azores doing the tiktoks, but students from mainland Portugal that had to move to another city to go to university would feel the same thing. Same applies to adults that had to move from their hometown due to work, either to another part of the country or outside of it and there's those that returned home but that could also connect with the feeling.
And a big and very important segment of the public that you should consider are the musicians and artists, the judges. You have to move to Lisbon or Oporto if you actually want to have a music career in Portugal, so they could win not only the regional jury panel from Madeira and Azores, but from most regions.
I’m one of those cases—I had to move 100 km to study in Porto, so I completely understand the "struggle". I know what it’s like to be far from family, to be in an unfamiliar city (and I still feel it, as I’m in the final year of my master’s, although now, I also feel at home in Porto). And I like the song, I really feel it, but does that make me want to vote for it? No!

As far as I noticed, I heard the song three times in Instagram stories—interestingly, two were from Madeira, and one from the Azores.

The lyrics literally say “Ilha... Paz... Madeira.” Sorry, but I don’t think the connection is the same for someone from the mainland. This song and its lyrics are very much directed toward Madeira.

I hope the juries consider more than just the lyrics (they should be taken into account, but there are other aspects—melody, vocals, composition, and even a sense of what could work well internationally—though I have doubts about that last one).

I just can’t picture this winning. It’s a great song for regional and even national appeal, but not for Eurovision, and not in this Festival da Canção, especially when we have Josh, Peculiar, and Henka...
 

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Those Portuguese from Switzerland who steal our diaspora points every year now! :lol: :lol: :lol: xkiss

Televoting in Switzerland is now usually split between Albania, Serbia and Portugal.... lol
 
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