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Who will win ESC 2015 in Vienna?

  • DENMARK

    2 0.6%
  • HUNGARY

    1 0.3%
  • SERBIA

    3 0.9%
  • FYR MACEDONIA

    1 0.3%
  • MOLDOVA

    0 0.0%
  • ALBANIA

    8 2.5%
  • ESTONIA

    52 16.5%
  • ARMENIA

    0 0.0%
  • BELGIUM

    26 8.2%
  • GREECE

    1 0.3%
  • GEORGIA

    3 0.9%
  • FINLAND

    4 1.3%
  • RUSSIA

    16 5.1%
  • THE NETHERLANDS

    5 1.6%
  • BELARUS

    0 0.0%
  • ROMANIA

    1 0.3%
  • AUSTRIA

    3 0.9%
  • FRANCE

    1 0.3%
  • SPAIN

    9 2.8%
  • MONTENEGRO

    0 0.0%
  • PORTUGAL

    1 0.3%
  • MALTA

    1 0.3%
  • LATVIA

    7 2.2%
  • AZERBAIJAN

    3 0.9%
  • CYPRUS

    1 0.3%
  • SLOVENIA

    19 6.0%
  • CZECH REPUBLIC

    1 0.3%
  • ICELAND

    2 0.6%
  • SAN MARINO

    0 0.0%
  • IRELAND

    0 0.0%
  • POLAND

    2 0.6%
  • LITHUANIA

    1 0.3%
  • SWEDEN

    55 17.4%
  • SWITZERLAND

    1 0.3%
  • NORWAY

    5 1.6%
  • ISRAEL

    4 1.3%
  • UNITED KINGDOM

    7 2.2%
  • AUSTRALIA

    14 4.4%
  • ITALY

    53 16.8%
  • GERMANY

    3 0.9%

  • Total voters
    316

SuperGirl

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I don't get Sweden won only 3 years ago talk.

What have Loreen and 2012 to do with Måns and 2015???? So, Måns and Sweden don't deserves win only because Loreen?? Måns don't deserve to win because Loreen did it 2012. Why is Estonia more deserving winner. By that logic Estonia and Italy shouldn't win either. They have won before. No, Slovenia or a country that haven't won before should win right?? And then that country isn't allowed to win either. In other words GOODBYE ESC. RIP.

So should Sweden withdraw?? If we aren't allowed to compete in the same rules as the others why compete at all??
 

Marie Jane

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I don't get Sweden won only 3 years ago talk.

What have Loreen and 2012 to do with Måns and 2015???? So, Måns and Sweden don't deserves win only because Loreen?? Måns don't deserve to win because Loreen did it 2012. Why is Estonia more deserving winner. By that logic Estonia and Italy shouldn't win either. They have won before. No, Slovenia or a country that haven't won before should win right?? And then that country isn't allowed to win either. In other words GOODBYE ESC. RIP.

So should Sweden withdraw?? If we aren't allowed to compete in the same rules as the others why compete at all??

I agree with you, it is unfair for Mans, it's not his fault that Sweden won 3 years ago, but i don't know, i just can't see EBU "allowing" Sweden to win again so early. :lol:
 

GermanBango

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I don't get Sweden won only 3 years ago talk.

What have Loreen and 2012 to do with Måns and 2015???? So, Måns and Sweden don't deserves win only because Loreen?? Måns don't deserve to win because Loreen did it 2012. Why is Estonia more deserving winner. By that logic Estonia and Italy shouldn't win either. They have won before. No, Slovenia or a country that haven't won before should win right?? And then that country isn't allowed to win either. In other words GOODBYE ESC. RIP.

So should Sweden withdraw?? If we aren't allowed to compete in the same rules as the others why compete at all??

Look, we all get what you mean (most of the time) and you should feel free to share your opinion in here but the way you do is, 90% of the time, just very "aggressive" - or at least it seems like that. Remember, we don't see you facial expressions. We don't know in which mood you are and how you mean certain things. All we see are the texts you're writing and gurl, I can tell: You seem rather rude and butt hurt. The problem here is that you seem to immediately explode when someone says something you can't agree with. Just calm down and take a deep breath before you post something. First thinking, then writing. This is a Forum (as you surely know) and we have thousands of people with different opinions in here - you can't and you shouldn't agree with all of them but you should learn how to handle criticism towards your country, your favorites and yourself. When you demand acceptance for your opinion you should always be able to appreciate those of others. Hell yeah, some people in here love to discuss things to death (and some may have a horrible music taste xshifty) but there is no sense in being sulky every time you feel misunderstood. Do yourself a favor get rid of those habits - they are not very useful in a Forum, aren't they.
 

tsegaye

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I, as a swede, would find it quite boring to win this close to last time we won. It's not about Måns or anything, I will be happy if we win, but I won't be sad if we don't win (like some other people obviously is going to be...). When people (including me) say that we want another country to win than the countries that recently won it's because of fun's sake, not because we think it shouldn't be allowed for countries to win multiple times in a short period of time. It is just a matter of the underdog-scenario, everyone (well most of us) loves an underdog and those countries who havn't won the competition in a few years (or who havn't won it at all) are truly underdogs.
 

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I, as a swede, would find it quite boring to win this close to last time we won. It's not about Måns or anything, I will be happy if we win, but I won't be sad if we don't win (like some other people obviously is going to be...). When people (including me) say that we want another country to win than the countries that recently won it's because of fun's sake, not because we think it shouldn't be allowed for countries to win multiple times in a short period of time. It is just a matter of the underdog-scenario, everyone (well most of us) loves an underdog and those countries who havn't won the competition in a few years (or who havn't won it at all) are truly underdogs.

I agree, especially when those usually-not-so-lucky countries actually made an effort and have the chance to win. It's not like no one but Sweden was good, and it's not even about Sweden actually: if Denmark, Germany or Azerbaijan were first in odds, I guess some people would express a reservation as well.
 

SuperGirl

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I agree, especially when those usually-not-so-lucky countries actually made an effort and have the chance to win. It's not like no one but Sweden was good, and it's not even about Sweden actually: if Denmark, Germany or Azerbaijan were first in odds, I guess some people would express a reservation as well.

So by this logic neither Italy and Estonia should win.

SLOVENIA is the rightful winner right??

As I said ESC is in very deep water if we are talking about countries which have not been successful rather than song, performance ect.
 

tuorem

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So by this logic neither Italy and Estonia should win.

SLOVENIA is the rightful winner right??

As I said ESC is in very deep water if we are talking about countries which have not been successful rather than song, performance ect.

No, no. I mean they have more or less the same chances to win, so it would be nice to see a winner that didn't win at all or for a long time (like Austria last year). I don't mean Sweden isn't allowed to win, just that other entries are also worth a victory and for that matter, they're as legitimate as Sweden that won recently.
 

tsegaye

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So by this logic neither Italy and Estonia should win.

SLOVENIA is the rightful winner right??

As I said ESC is in very deep water if we are talking about countries which have not been successful rather than song, performance ect.

Neither of us in this thread have said that a country "should" win, so can you please read carefully before you post anything with unnecessary and hasty conclusions.
 

SuperGirl

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Here's a Spotify list of the amount of play of each entry.

Don't know how much it means but the number of plays so far:
Sweden 8.299.487
Italy 1.666.323
Netherlands 769.993
Spain 676.176
Norway 574.961
Denmark 394.449
Estonia 246.296
Germany 168.043
Finland 103.915
Belgium 53.476
Austria 46.513
Greece 22.878
Hungary 22.867
Switzerland 22.615
France 21.788

The rest way below..

Wow @ Sweden!!! :eek::D

From ESC Nation: http://www.escnation.com
 

tsegaye

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Here's a Spotify list of the amount of play of each entry.



Wow @ Sweden!!! :eek::D

From ESC Nation: http://www.escnation.com


The numbers are quite logical if you think about Spotify being most popular in Sweden, where the company was found. There is alot of other factors as well but they are quite obvious as well.
 

Pawhlen

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Last week heroes has had 2,075 mil plays on spotify, 2,004 of those are from Sweden - around 96-97% of the plays are from Sweden.

Have one of the songs this year managed to sneak in on another countrys top 50 yet on Spotify?
 

Pawhlen

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Not sure, probably not. Heroes for example is only 136th in Finland.

I have looked into Itunes charts and Spotify all over Europe and I haven´t found any other song in a countrys charts other than their own entry
 

lilka

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I have looked into Itunes charts and Spotify all over Europe and I haven´t found any other song in a countrys charts other than their own entry

This will change after the ESC. ;)
 
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