What's your favorite languages?

[AdelAdel]

Yeah, you're right, Vatroslav, it is indeed useless. One can't really discuss anything with people who can't take concrete evidence into account. You ignored the link Tinchey posted like it wouldn't exist, lol.

 

[vatroslav_cro]

But it is still obvious it has its own international classification: (hrv)

 

[Yoni]

No I didn't ignore it, but there is also this one (I wonder how did he miss THAT one)?:

Croatian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

plus it seems that I have to defend my own language from some people from my country....loool this is also very interesting and unique in the world....

Croatian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Croatian (hrvatski jezik) is a standardized register of the Serbo-Croatian language

Seems like you did ignore it, i mean, you tried to prove your case with a link that even mentions it being a form of the Serbo-Croatian language.

 

[AdelAdel]

Yes, and read the first sentence 2 "Croatian is a standardized register of the Serbo-Croatian language". This means that it's a variety of Serbo-Croatian, a language which you say doesn't exist If you read further into the text, you'll see that it's not common knowledge that Croatian is a separate language, as only some linguists classify it this way, and that's purely because of nationalistic reasons (historical and cultural differences between Croatia and the rest).

 

[vatroslav_cro]

OK I see. In your opinion, we don't have a right to have our language. Any other people in Europe have it, but we don't. I see the point.

 

[DanielLuis]

OK I see. In your opinion, we don't have a right to have our language. Any other people in Europe have it, but we don't. I see the point.

That's not what anybody here is saying.

 

[vatroslav_cro]

Then what is? How should I call the language I am speaking to, according to the previous comments? I really don't know!

 

[AdelAdel]

Then what is? How should I call the language I am speaking to, according to the previous comments? I really don't know!

You speak a Serbo-Croatian variant called Croatian.

 

[vatroslav_cro]

Yeah...right. Now you said everything, indeed.

 

[Venage]

Out of curiosity: Does that mean that all Serbians understand Croatian and vice versa? Or is it more like the relationship between German and Dutch where you cannot completely understand the other language but rather get the rough meaning of someone's statement.

 

[SRBIJA]

Out of curiosity: Does that mean that all Serbians understand Croatian and vice versa? Or is it more like the relationship between German and Dutch where you cannot completely understand the other language but rather get the rough meaning of someone's statement.

Yes. You might find specific word that you can't understand but that quite rare and ofc you can still understand the main point. So much stronger relationship than between and

 

[Milos-BC]

^^ We completely understand each others.

There are differences between Serbian and Croatian, it's not the same language although it is indeed very similar. Some words are totally different. For example in "week" is called "tjedan" and over here "nedelja". The names for the months are different in and etc..........the two languages are very similar, but they have differences. We have a Cyrillic letter as well, doesn't etc.........

And btw, Bosnian and Montenegrin don't exist as languages. Both of them are Serbian, but in different dialect.

 

[Yoni]

Out of curiosity: Does that mean that all Serbians understand Croatian and vice versa? Or is it more like the relationship between German and Dutch where you cannot completely understand the other language but rather get the rough meaning of someone's statement.

in example in the NSC skype convos we have people from bosnia/croatia/serbia and even montenegro and they all understand each other when talking in that language

 

[SRBIJA]

Out of curiosity: Does that mean that all Serbians understand Croatian and vice versa? Or is it more like the relationship between German and Dutch where you cannot completely understand the other language but rather get the rough meaning of someone's statement.

For example




Zlata niman da te njime okitim
Samo ove ruke dvi da ti dušu zagrlim
Ej mižerja ka tvrda si stina
Ej mižerja ka dvi kapi vina
Nemam ništa, samo viru
I bokun čiste jubavi

Ej mižerja ka tvrda si stina
Ej mižerja ka dvi kapi vina
Nemam ništa, samo viru
I bokun čiste jubavi





Zlata nemam da te njime okitim
Samo ove ruke dve da ti dušu zagrlim
Ej mižerja ko tvrda si stena
Ej mižerja ko dve kapi vina
Nemam ništa, samo veru
I komad čiste ljubavi

Ej mižerja ko tvrda si stena
Ej mižerja ko dve kapi vina
Nemam ništa, samo veru
I komad čiste ljubavi





Although there is no word 'mižerja' in and I cant think of any suitable word to replace it with

 

[Venage]

^

Thank you for the explanation Croatian and Serbian look really almost the same.

 

[doctormalisimo]

OK I see. In your opinion, we don't have a right to have our language. Any other people in Europe have it, but we don't. I see the point.

Language is not nation-specific. If it was, countries like Switzerland, Belgium, Finland, Ireland, UK, Spain etc wouldnt exist. You can make up whatever feels right to you, but from an objective linguistic point of view, both Serbian and Croatian are dialects of a greater Serbo-Croatian language.

 

[vatroslav_cro]

But they cannot be "dialects" becuase each of them already has its OWN dialects: kajkavian, čakavian and štokavian (kaikavian, chakavian and shtokavian) in Croatian, whether there is only štokavijan (shtokavian) in Serbian!
Serbian doesn't recognize kajkavian and chakavian!

There is a map:

http://www.google.hr/imgres?imgurl=...DUWUpnJJ-mJ4ATp2oHYDw&ved=0CEQQ9QEwBQ&dur=441

 

[vatroslav_cro]

Language is not nation-specific. If it was, countries like Switzerland, Belgium, Finland, Ireland, UK, Spain etc wouldnt exist. You can make up whatever feels right to you, but from an objective linguistic point of view, both Serbian and Croatian are dialects of a greater Serbo-Croatian language.

btw Finland, Spain and UK HAVE their native languages...even Ireland but you don't use it so often as you use English language......so I really don't see a point of your statement here?

 

[RainyWoods]

So here's mine:

Ukrainian
Russian

^ I like Slavic languages in general, but those two are my favs amongst them.

Hebrew
German

I'm with A-Lister. I personally love the languages of all four countries mentioned there, especially German. There's something about the language that appeals to me so much. It's a very strong, (dare I say) harsh sounding language. There is nothing better for me than Neoclassical music sung in the language. Take this Soap&Skin song for instance..

Ukrainian and Russian I find incredibly interesting to my ear and Hebrew I think is beautiful when sung in a ballad.

However my most favourite language of all to hear is Albanian. I'm fascinated by it. It's so peculiar to my ear. Sounds quite unlike anything else. It's a shame in the past how many songs they have translated to English for the contest. Keeping "Suus" in Albanian was certainly the right thing to do.

 

[amateur]

YAY there is a thread about languages! How could I miss this?

Let's see, I feel this will be quite a long list: ESTONIAN, Finnish, Hungarian, Icelandic, English, Serbo-Croatian, Italian, Turkmen, Uzbek, Hebrew, Japanese. There probably is more, but these are the ones that come to my mind at the moment.