United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2023 - Mae Muller - I Wrote a Song

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[ChiversLookDivine]

Remembering the album SAWAYAMA, there were some great materials that weren't in the original album but released in the deluxe version of it, months after the original. I'm sure there are also other awesome materials in Rina's archive that didn't match the Hold the Girl album's concept, which is ideal for this occasion.

There are supposedly 3 songs that were cut from Hold The Girl, obviously it could be a wholly brand new song if it was Rina... but these might be worth keeping in mind, especially since TaP worked on a few songs, one or more of these could have been held off for a future deluxe release...

• Missin' Summers
• Hourglass
• EMOtionless

 

[MopManMoss]

Just send Rina with Frankenstein that song goes hard

 

[ChiversLookDivine]

WiWi are going to absolutely throw their toys out of the pram if it's not Rina. They can be really unprofessional at times and they really only have themselves to blame for leaning into the rumours when he actual 'evidence' is very thin and open to confirmation bias.

CORRECTION: it's not Wiwi. The BBC atrium picture of Rina, the constant comments on Rina's Instagram that are constantly shared - those were made by William Lee Adams.

William Lee Adams, may I remind you, also works for the BBC. I maintain the atrium picture was part of the strategy this year, drop 'evidence' slowly from figures within the fandom. And these aren't just any figures. William is a BBC employee, the Euro Trip who dropped two big hints have had the likes of Ben Mawson and Lee Smithurst and Dan Shipton on their podcast. They are an inner circle of sorts.

If you look back, the start of the rumour, the moments when the rumour ramped up, the times recently the rumour exploded - those were all due to the BBC themselves, TaP, or people within the fandom with working relationships with the BBC.

 

[MopManMoss]

There isnt really a good explanation as to why there is a picture of Rina at the BBC though is there other than potential eurovision representative

 

[Chrisiam]

Honestly, I am just pleased with how the discussion around the UK at Eurovision has changed over the past year. The kinds of names we are getting in the thread right now are the kind that this time last year and/or the year before was at best just "Fan casting" to me. Just names the fans would really like to see but would never do in a hundred years. But now? Now they are legit possibilities.

When I started posting on this sight our options were: A person who won the X-Factor half a decade ago, a largely forgotten act trying to make a comeback, and a new act who really is just in it for the money.

 

[MopManMoss]

Its been eight years I still dont understand where the BBC found electro velvet those two have absolutely zero presence online

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I never thought I'd be waiting for entries from the UK and Germany with legitimate belief that they might help improve my opinion of a Eurovision year.

 

[Chrisiam]

Its been eight years I still dont understand where the BBC found electro velvet those two have absolutely zero presence online

Somehow someone in the BBC got it into their head that Electro Swing was going to be the next big thing in music so they seemingly searched out a song that was closest to that sound. And eventually found Still In Love With You buried deep on the internet. By the looks of things, it was only intended as like a one-off video rather than a statement of musical intent. If you know where to look you can find the original version which isn't really Electro Swing at all and was just a flat-out 1930's/40's throwback song. And it was changed to become Electro Swing in style.

I remember that in the days ahead of the contest the BBC's pop-up Eurovision radio station was really pushing the Electro Swing angle. Trying to make out that it was a massive thing in Europe and how "Even though we hadn't heard of it, it was big over there". And how that all came crashing down when they interviewed a music journalist from Austria who politely explained that it wasn't.

And from that point on, no one said a single word about Electro Swing as a genera at all on that station. And given the calls they got to the station the morning after the finals and how big an ego knock that must have been for the exec' he wanted Electro Velvet that pop-up station never returned.

 

[ESC_Peggy]

WiWi are going to absolutely throw their toys out of the pram if it's not Rina. They can be really unprofessional at times and they really only have themselves to blame for leaning into the rumours when he actual 'evidence' is very thin and open to confirmation bias.

The only thing that made me feel like they could've been enlisted by TaP to build hype was the tweet of the picture in the atrium, the rest is just Twitter hearsay and conjecture that a better fan site would just avoid or heavily caveat.

That being said, Rina is a big enough artist in her own right that leaning into the twitter rumours for 'exposure' doesn't make sense either.

Not too long to wait until we find out I guess!

It's so cringe that William and wiwi have spammed her Instagram with things such as "See you in Liverpool?". Almost all the comments on her last Intagram post and TikToks are from her fanbase asking about Eurovision. Gah! One would think Wiliam would rein it in and be more professional using his personal account when he is in his 40s and has "Senior Journalist at BBC" in his bio but he's behaving like a teenage fanboy instead.

The tweet he posted about the picture of Rina in the atrium that he's claimed to never have seen before has 190,000 views and 174 quote tweets one of his responses is "I need you to live so you can shine in the Wiwi Jury video reviewing her song! She's just incredible. The perfect ambassador".

STOP IT

 

[Rocket man]

It's so cringe that William and wiwi have spammed her Instagram with things such as "See you in Liverpool?". Almost all the comments on her last Intagram post and TikToks are from her fanbase asking about Eurovision. Gah! One would think Wiliam would rein it in and be more professional using his personal account when he is in his 40s and has "Senior Journalist at BBC" in his bio but he's behaving like a teenage fanboy instead.

The tweet he posted about the picture of Rina in the atrium that he's claimed to never have seen before has 190,000 views and 174 quote tweets one of his responses is "I need you to live so you can shine in the Wiwi Jury video reviewing her song! She's just incredible. The perfect ambassador".

STOP IT

If it isn't actually Rina Sawayama, that guy deserves the backlash he would get from fans.

I just don't understand why they don't release the artists name if the BBC/TaP have already decided on Rina Sawayama, rather than releasing these hints and clues, and then just give us the song at a later date.

 

[Kitakaze]

Might have something to do with the fact Rina is still touring. Maybe they’re just waiting for Rina to finish her last show which is today.

 

[MopManMoss]

Sam wasnt announced until March 10th dont forget that

 

[ESC_Peggy]

Should i be worried the Crystal Ball is following Birdy and they are using the same random emojis?

Their predictions have been 100% so far

 

[MopManMoss]

Should i be worried the Crystal Ball is following Birdy and they are using the same random emojis?

Their predictions have been 100% so far

Ball likes to troll with their following they were following Victoria Cohen Mitchell and Reggie Yates before the hosts were announced for example

 

[njdevils94]

Should i be worried the Crystal Ball is following Birdy and they are using the same random emojis?

Their predictions have been 100% so far

Birdy would be amazing!

 

[MopManMoss]

Also Ball was completely wrong on Serbia's NF so they're not 100% correct but yeah pretty close to 100

 

[Dolly Blue]

Just seen this tweet so we will likely hear it this week? We just won't know which one it is


https://twitter.com/nathanmatthews/status/1630207122100060160?t=eZ5LBJjKkO1ijK-rmgNT5w&s=19

 

[Ali_]

Them following Birdy and noone else is a red herring imo

 

[ESC_Peggy]

Just seen this tweet so we will likely hear it this week? We just won't know which one it is


https://twitter.com/nathanmatthews/status/1630207122100060160?t=eZ5LBJjKkO1ijK-rmgNT5w&s=19

Birdy? Would they be allowed to make it that obvious?

 

[ChiversLookDivine]

Honestly, I am just pleased with how the discussion around the UK at Eurovision has changed over the past year. The kinds of names we are getting in the thread right now are the kind that this time last year and/or the year before was at best just "Fan casting" to me. Just names the fans would really like to see but would never do in a hundred years. But now? Now they are legit possibilities.

When I started posting on this sight our options were: A person who won the X-Factor half a decade ago, a largely forgotten act trying to make a comeback, and a new act who really is just in it for the money.

I hear that, my go-to joke option of Honey G feels a world away now.

Should i be worried the Crystal Ball is following Birdy and they are using the same random emojis?

Their predictions have been 100% so far

Their predictions have been 100%, but they're not predictions, it's just leaking song demos. Clearly they have a connection somewhere in the EBU or a fan journalist who's let in everywhere (there are a few I have in mind). Also worth bearing in mind that when it comes to internal selections they are often late to the party, with Australia and Switzerland they seemed to announce it after half the fandom had already figured it out. It's much harder to suss internals, and I think the UK will be hardest of all to crack.

They are 100% for leaks and 'predictions', but their follows have a hitrate of 0%: including the likes of Victoria Coren, Reggie Yates and Timur as hosts, KEiiNO, Tom Leeb, Chris Sebastian as entries or internal selections. These are red herrings. They only started following Birdy because people rumoured her, and then conveniently crystal balls started showing up in her posts, which screams "PR team want to make some cheap hype" just as we saw with Freya randomly liking tweets, Grace randomly moving her song release forward a week, and in previous years when no-name artists made up rumours on their Soundcloud accounts.