escYOUnited
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United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2020 - James Newman - My Last Breath
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I wrote a piece on the BBCxBMG approach to 2020, let me know what you think...
https://escunited.com/united-kingdo...t-direction-but-now-is-the-time-to-be-daring/
https://escunited.com/united-kingdo...t-direction-but-now-is-the-time-to-be-daring/
We haven't had any details about how the internal selection system works. If any method is possible, I really hope BMG has the bigger power in determining the artist. Somehow I can still see the possibility of BMG getting a list of great artists and BBC managing to pick the worst out of that bunch.
The one thing that really fills me with dread about this is the typical BBC line of International appeal and the singer/entry embodying spirit and values of eurovision. It says to me that they're thinking about what is good for eurovision, rather than just good. The only real positive in this is BMG and the hope they're not just going to put anything forward. While I do generally agree with what you say, I do believe the BBC tried to be daring in 2015. However that was one tragic mess and backfire on a spectacular proportion which in turn probably pushed them into this super safe space. If daring ends up with that all over again then I rather they stayed away from such divisive entries. However, my interest in this process is piqued and quietly looking forward to see what happens.
LastDreamer
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Cheeky Girls : how we made Cheeky Song (Touch My Bum)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/sep/03/cheeky-girls-how-we-made-cheeky-song-touch-my-bum
BorisBubbles
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"Big names" don't mean shit in ESC lol if said big name" is way past their expiration date: Bonnie Tyler and Engelbert did poorly, compare that to the current SUPERSTARS that are Dami Im and Sergey Lazarev. Jade and Blue did well, but they also had songs that sold themselves. Songs is what it boils down to for the UK. Talent isn't the problem, they fucking have it aplenty. Michael Rice has charisma and a great voice, SuRie likewise Their failure also revolve around the shitsongs that they assign to whichever unlucky soul wins that NF of theirs.
Just pump the production resources into the music, UK, and you'll be fine. No guarantee I will like your entrant, but at least you won't embarrass yourself.
Just pump the production resources into the music, UK, and you'll be fine. No guarantee I will like your entrant, but at least you won't embarrass yourself.
andimuhammadrifki
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well, just send one of the big names I've dropped and the UK will again be on the left side of the scoreboard, at least top ten.
But the big names you mentioned are successful and known worldwide already : why would they bother taking part? They'd gain nothing from the contest.
As Boris explained, picking a famous name doesn't mean the song would be good anyway. We've had examples of that in the past.
The song should be the main concern, for there is no shortage of talented singers in need of a platform to showcase themselves. I'd say let them have it.
ESC94
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Totally agree!! You can be as famous and successful as you want, if you song /performance is bad you´ll end on the rights side of the scoreboard, ask Cascada.
BorisBubbles
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What the UK needs is a hit. Hits win ESC. So does authenticity. So does relatability. An artist with some pedigree can inject authenticity and relatability into a song, yes, but not if the song itself is of You Decides quality.
FRFanESC
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Same, I feel like a surprising country will win next year such as UK, Spain, or Czech Republic.
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No tea no shade, my wig line won't fade: [MENTION=12274]jbusic[/MENTION] might be right.
andimuhammadrifki
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UK should send a song in "gannin yem" accent. it will win or at least top ten, of course.
PashQueerLife
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Music Week have an interview with Alistair Norbury, president, repertoire and marketing UK for BMG, the headline interestingly asks... "Should an established act be chosen as the UK's Eurovision entry?"
Here are some interesting excerpts from it...
I think this suggests the BBC have given BMG quite a lot of control in the selection and definitely bodes well for the UK next year.
Ultimately for me though success next year has to be placing somewhere on the left-hand side of the board, and a moderately successful hit in the local charts at least top 10 top 20.
Here are some interesting excerpts from it...
I think this suggests the BBC have given BMG quite a lot of control in the selection and definitely bodes well for the UK next year.
Ultimately for me though success next year has to be placing somewhere on the left-hand side of the board, and a moderately successful hit in the local charts at least top 10 top 20.
LeRoyaumeUni
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To be honest, why is our only aim the left-hand side of the scoreboard? We should be in it to win it!
Further note, it doesn't matter whether it's an established artist or not, all that matters is the song quality, production and staging! I'm pretty sure BMG will be responsible for promotion, the music video, staging etc. I'm intrigued as to what we're going to send next year...all we can do is pray they've finally snapped!
PashQueerLife
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Of course the BBC/BMG aim should be to win (and I hope it is their aim), but my personal hope, as stated, is to get somewhere on the left side, preferably the top 10.
I agree, the song, staging and production are key, but I also believe a good performer and pre-finals buzz/promo (and specifically artist stories) are also important.