Ukraine UKRAINE 2023 - Tvorchi - Heart of Steel

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[AlekS]

Krutь said that this will be her last Vidbir.

She also said that this song is about pain of Ukrainian people. Exactly what I "dreamed" of, more pain. I've had my Jamala phase 6 years ago, thanks but no.

 

[A-lister]

Yeah but when the ethnic is always the same kind of ethnic, it gets boring. But again it's only us ESC fans who follow national finals and are familiarized with it, most casual viewers won't even notice and still find it exotic.

That's not even true, firstly the very few ethnic inspired songs Ukraine sent, are all very different from each other. Also, what do you want, for them to invent ethnic sounds that isn't even Ukrainian? I think they have been proving to incorporate local sounds with other styles in very innovative ways, and again it's not that it happened alot (people's memory span seem to be only stretchning for a couple of years it seems) so let's not exaggerate. Also, what Ukraine sent lately is a much better representation of their music, same cannot be said about most other countries so I guess it all comes down to what we want from Eurovision, seems some want Swedish radio pop in English which is kinda sad tbh. It's just that kind of thinking that is ruining the contest since entries start to sound the same and have no character, and we also saw how desperately sounding like "western Pop in English" but failing at executing it well has even ruined it for some countries (Montenegro and Macedonia say hello!).

 

[AlekS]

Kateryna Pavlenko (Go_A), Zlata Ognevich and Timur Miroshnychenko will host Vidbir

 

[Mainshow]

Aweomse! - I´d like to see Kateryna and Zlata perform as well!

 

[WhoKnows]

Curious to see how Katya will do as a host. Anyway, I'm just glad there's gonna be no Yefrosinina.

 

[Gera11]

That's not even true, firstly the very few ethnic inspired songs Ukraine sent, are all very different from each other. Also, what do you want, for them to invent ethnic sounds that isn't even Ukrainian? I think they have been proving to incorporate local sounds with other styles in very innovative ways, and again it's not that it happened alot (people's memory span seem to be only stretchning for a couple of years it seems) so let's not exaggerate. Also, what Ukraine sent lately is a much better representation of their music, same cannot be said about most other countries so I guess it all comes down to what we want from Eurovision, seems some want Swedish radio pop in English which is kinda sad tbh. It's just that kind of thinking that is ruining the contest since entries start to sound the same and have no character, and we also saw how desperately sounding like "western Pop in English" but failing at executing it well has even ruined it for some countries (Montenegro and Macedonia say hello!).

I think he was talking about ethnic inspired songs from different regions of Ukraine, as I'm sure they have regional variation on folk like most countries. But yeah, their folk entries weren't that similar.

 

[AlekS]

Hutsulian goddess posted a video with academic vocals to haters who said she can't sing:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmHjdk4IxNX/

ps. The rehearsal is happening right now.

 

[AlekS]

Kalush Orchestra supported Krutь (they use thу same pr agency after all). They will release a duo soon.

 

[HarryUK]

Kateryna Pavlenko (Go_A), Zlata Ognevich and Timur Miroshnychenko will host Vidbir

Can we have at least 2 of these icons in Liverpool as well please?!

 

[Yusha103]

Kateryna Pavlenko (Go_A), Zlata Ognevich and Timur Miroshnychenko will host Vidbir

I would love Zlata to participate again

 

[AlekS]

Gheys in ESC groups like suggestive lyrics of Fiinka:

"ой попід, ой попід..."

(sounds similar to "pop it" or "assf-g"

)

Hutsulian goddess responds:

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7177121842409327877

 

[MopManMoss]

why is vidbir going to be four hours long? how does that make any sense? thats longer than most eurovisions

 

[Mainshow]

why is vidbir going to be four hours long? how does that make any sense? thats longer than most eurovisions

Vidbir isn´t going to be four hours long.
3 in total.. There´s a break in between (it´s basically an extended voting time).

 

[WhoKnows]

why is vidbir going to be four hours long? how does that make any sense? thats longer than most eurovisions

Because it's iconic.

 

[Leydan]

why is vidbir going to be four hours long? how does that make any sense? thats longer than most eurovisions

Vidbir always needs several hours to discuss each song. The concept of a timely paced show doesn't exist when it comes to a Ukrainian NF.

 

[MopManMoss]

I get the in depth discussion post song but theres only 10 songs I really cant work out how the runtime makes any sense

 

[njdevils94]

I get the in depth discussion post song but theres only 10 songs I really cant work out how the runtime makes any sense

You are forgetting the 7-10 minute commercial breaks after every two/three songs

 

[AlekS]

TVORCHI also bought tons of promo.
Patron the dog is promoting their song


Youtube trends

#8 Jerry Heil (lyric video)
#9 TVORCHI (music video)
#18 KRUTь (lyric video)

 

[AlekS]

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7177313959110839558

 

[Rocket man]

I need to see the live performances to decide who my favourite is, I can't decide atm. But if I had to really pick one right now, I'd say KRUTь, "Kolyskova" is a mood.