UKRAINE 2012 - Gaitana - Be My Guest

[rajo]

Well Ukraine knows how to dress up a poor song with lots of kitsch .....

 

[Knubelznarm]

@A-lister
Exactly! This is what I want from Ukraine! Ruslana set the trend of strong female performers back in 2004.. Tina was amazing, Ani as well, Svetlana was ummm.. freakin' AWESOME. Let's get this party started, I say. xrockout

I completely agree. This song is a party-starter, LOL. And it suits Ukraine to send all these wild, strong female performers. Especially when they have a touch of folklore.
EVERYONE LOVES THE TREMBITA

 

[A-lister]

Well Ukraine knows how to dress up a poor song with lots of kitsch .....

I hate when people say that putting up a great show and effort and actually entertain the public is "kitsch".

Has it really come to this that now to be respected in Eurovision all you should do is just stand still and look bored, wear boring clothes and overall lame performance? Well, what's the point with having this big stage and expensive TV show then? Let's just have a radio show then instead? It'll be cheaper.

I hate that now only being a big voice is seen as "effort" but while putting up a big show it's "kitsch"... so sad really.

As a viewer I WANT to be entertained, I WANT to feel the act actually put some effort in the show and I think it should pay off. Ukraine always put alot of effort in their stage show and it shouldn't be regarded as "kitsch" I think, that's unfair.

 

[Deleted member 5361]

I wanted Max's victory... Gaitana is not that bad choice either but, imo Dance was the best song of the NF.

 

[rajo]

If the song contest were a radio show, boobs and sand painters wouldn't count anymore.

Ukraine only entertained me once, in 2007 with "Dancing Lasha Tumbai", that was hilarious. But I'm tired of all these Eastern European supermodels with tiny voices and big breasts. Well, Tina Karol had a big voice and I acknowledge her career. But even she came up cheaply dressed in a short dress and unloading her tatas on the stage in 2006.

And even the vote announcers are showing us what they got, year by year.

 

[A-lister]

If the song contest were a radio show, boobs and sand painters wouldn't count anymore.

Ukraine only entertained me once, in 2007 with "Dancing Lasha Tumbai", that was hilarious. But I'm tired of all these Eastern European supermodels with tiny voices and big breasts. Well, Tina Karol had a big voice and I acknowledge her career. But even she came up cheaply dressed in a short dress and unloading her tatas on the stage in 2006.

And even the vote announcers are showing us what they got, year by year.

I find xenophobia in your comment to be honest.

This whole "Eastern European with big breasts"... well have you seen performances by Rihanna? Lady Gaga? Britney?... none of whom are "Eastern European".

It's an uptempo song, it's a female singer.. what's the problem if she'll put up a great show for us? Should she dress in a burqa for you to be happy? Should she act like it's a funeral? Maybe let's apply Saudi sharia on ESC while we're at it shall we?

Well, now it IS a TV show and I want to be entertained (and I don't mean that I want to laugh, I just want big shows with lots of effort behind them).

And btw, none of the Ukrainian singers were bad singers with "weak voices" as you put it... Ruslana, Ani, Alyosha, Mika and now Gaitana are all good live singers.

 

[Knubelznarm]

I hate when people say that putting up a great show and effort and actually entertain the public is "kitsch".

Has it really come to this that now to be respected in Eurovision all you should do is just stand still and look bored, wear boring clothes and overall lame performance? Well, what's the point with having this big stage and expensive TV show then? Let's just have a radio show then instead? It'll be cheaper.

I hate that now only being a big voice is seen as "effort" but while putting up a big show it's "kitsch"... so sad really.

As a viewer I WANT to be entertained, I WANT to feel the act actually put some effort in the show and I think it should pay off. Ukraine always put alot of effort in their stage show and it shouldn't be regarded as "kitsch" I think, that's unfair.

xgood
People come up with all sorts of wierd arguments when their favourite doesn't win, or just to highlight their own favourite (sometimes myself included)

 

[A-lister]

xgood
People come up with all sorts of wierd arguments when their favourite doesn't win, or just to highlight their own favourite (sometimes myself included)

Well, I can be like this myself at times, but I do acknowledge when efforts are made (even if I don't like the entries). To simply call all big shows "gimmicky" is just unfair imo.

 

[rajo]

I find xenophobia in your comment to be honest.

This whole "Eastern European with big breasts"... well have you seen performances by Rihanna? Lady Gaga? Britney?... none of whom are "Eastern European".

Neither Rihanna, nor Lady GaGa, nor Britney are my cup of tea. I don't like them at all, I don't listen to their music, but I don't have to care about them in terms of Eurovision. Why do they matter here?

They know how to make a big choreography on crappy songs.

I go for Adele, or Florence & the machine, if you want to know what kind of female artists I prefer.

It's an uptempo song, it's a female singer.. what's the problem if she'll put up a great show for us? Should she dress in a burqa for you to be happy? Should she act like it's a funeral? Maybe let's apply Saudi sharia on ESC while we're at it shall we?

I don't consider this contribution to the song contest not as a song, nor as art. No one wants to go a funeral on Eurovision day, but I don't want to go to circus neither. I want to enjoy singing.

And btw, none of the Ukrainian singers were bad singers with "weak voices" as you put it... Ruslana, Ani, Alyosha, Mika and now Gaitana are all good live singers.

Mika hasn't had a particular good song nor outstanding voice. It was the sandpainting gimmick which helped her.
And Gaitana - Where's the "voice"? I can hear something but I wouldn't consider that a "voice". All I see is carneval on stage.

 

[Scooby]

Average song and average singer.
I like trumpets and that etno elements in song, her voice is very interesting and unique and I little enjoy in her singing.
But.... lyrics is comic, horrible I can say.

This is very risky entry. If her live performance will be good Ukraine can make great job again. But this is Ukraine and we can expect another fantastic and entertaining show!

Good luck Ukraine, cause this time you really need luck.
From me 5 points.

 

[A-lister]

Neither Rihanna, nor Lady GaGa, nor Britney are my cup of tea. I don't like them at all, I don't listen to their music, but I don't have to care about them in terms of Eurovision. Why do they matter here?

They know how to make a big choreography on crappy songs.

I go for Adele, or Florence & the machine, if you want to know what kind of female artists I prefer.

I guess you didn't get my comment? You just had to make this typical degrading "Eastern European women" remark, so I just put it out for you that it's a show-business/Pop thing, and not "Eastern European". I have so called "Eastern European" roots myself and all my life I heard such comments, they are simply unclassy. I didn't comment on your general taste in music, that's another thing. I love Florence+The Machine myself aswell, but I don't go and call others "cheap Eastern European women that only shows big boobs". It doesn't make you cool or artsy in my book, sorry.

I don't consider this contribution to the song contest not as a song, nor as art. No one wants to go a funeral on Eurovision day, but I don't want to go to circus neither. I want to enjoy singing.

Well, whether you like the song or not is not really what I reacted to in your comments (as I think made more clear with my comment above).

Mika hasn't had a particular good song nor outstanding voice. It was the sandpainting gimmick which helped her.
And Gaitana - Where's the "voice"? I can hear something but I wouldn't consider that a "voice". All I see is carneval on stage.

I personally never liked Mika's song, and I don't think her voice is outstanding or anything, but she's a reliable live singer still, and so were Ani, Ruslana and others aswell... whether you liked their songs/performances or not, it's just simply false to call them "weak singers who only relied on gimmicks" when in fact none of them are weak singers in the first place.

Oh well, let the carnival begin then!

 

[rajo]

Don't be afraid, that I would read your "book".

I call things as I can see them.

 

[WhoKnows]

I hate when people say that putting up a great show and effort and actually entertain the public is "kitsch".

I can never understand why so many Eurovision fans are so anti any kind of stage production. It's as if as soon as they see any dancing or showmanship on stage, they automatically discredit the song. No matter how good it may be. No matter how talented the performer may be. It's bizarre really. I don't at all advocate that we get away with the "song" part of the contest, but it's a television show afterall and there is nothing wrong with putting on an entertaining performance. I mean, has anyone watched the Grammys the other night, it was mostly all about the big performances, elaborate sets and routines. That's the nature of pop music today. Sometimes I get the feeling that most of the people who are so against it are the ones who've been following Eurovision for decades now and wish for it to go back to what it was in the 70s and 80s. Well I'm glad it's not going back there or staying still. Modern music is changing and Eurovision as a music contest should too.

As for Ukraine sending 'bimbos with weak voices', that's simply not true. The only one who could arguably be put in that category is Loboda and even she performed quite adequately.

 

[A-lister]

I can never understand why so many Eurovision fans are so anti any kind of stage production. It's as if as soon as they see any dancing or showmanship on stage, they automatically discredit the song. No matter how good it may be. No matter how talented the performer may be. It's bizarre really. I don't at all advocate that we get away with the "song" part of the contest, but it's a television show afterall and there is nothing wrong with putting on an entertaining performance. I mean, has anyone watched the Grammys the other night, it was mostly all about the big performances, elaborate sets and routines. That's the nature of pop music today. Sometimes I get the feeling that most of the people who are so against it are the ones who've been following Eurovision for decades now and wish for it to go back to what it was in the 70s and 80s. Well I'm glad it's not going back there or staying still. Modern music is changing and Eurovision as a music contest should too.

Exactly my point, I simply don't get it. Do they want just ballads? Do they think that putting up a big show is "easy work" or something? I'd call it to actually put some effort. This idea about all bigger stage presentations as "kitsch" are quite weird to me and to be honest quite sad aswell.

 

[r3gg13]

I'm happy that this song won.

Ukraine are masters at making great stage presentation and good final song arrangement. So, I'm sure it will be even etter for ESC.

This song has to be either in the first position or last position in the running order. It has a "bring everybody's energy level up" vibe that is perfect for show opening or closing

 

[qabadachia]

Look, guys...

I can honestly say that Florence Welch has no bigger fan here than me. And I adore Adele. And Emeli Sande. And Ingrid Michaelson. And plethora of other female artists. Would I like to watch a music festival with 46 artists of that particular musical niche? You can bet your sweet little arses I would. But I would still miss this kind of ESC.

Why? Because of this unique opportunity to hear so many diverse musical genres and styles. This is the only festival that I know of that brings together artists such as Jade Ewen and Laka. InCulto and Lordi. Ani Lorak and Patricia Kaas. Kuunkuiskaajat and Nadine Beiler.

We should cherish that. I certainly know that I do.

 

[A-lister]

Ukraine are masters at making great stage presentation...

ssshh.. how can you say this!? It's obviously just "gimmicks"

God forbid stage presentations! I want new rules that singers with uptempo shows must hide behind a curtain throughout the performance!

 

[rajo]

Exactly my point, I simply don't get it. Do they want just ballads? Do they think that putting up a big show is "easy work" or something? I'd call it to actually put some effort. This idea about all bigger stage presentations as "kitsch" are quite weird to me and to be honest quite sad aswell.

And it's weird to me that Eurovision is not about finding the perfect song anymore but finding the most attention by means of gimmicks....

What about Dima in 2008? Weakest winning song in years, but Europe fell for the violins and the ice skating routines.

Eurovision has become weaker with music, and stresses more on performing with circus artists and gimmicks.

 

[A-lister]

Look, guys...

I can honestly say that Florence Welch has no bigger fan here than me. And I adore Adele. And Emeli Sande. And Ingrid Michaelson. And plethora of other female artists. Would I like to watch a music festival with 46 artists of that particular musical niche? You can bet your sweet little arses I would. But I would still miss this kind of ESC.

Why? Because of this unique opportunity to hear so many diverse musical genres and styles. This is the only festival that I know of that brings together artists such as Jade Ewen and Laka. InCulto and Lordi. Ani Lorak and Patricia Kaas. Kuunkuiskaajat and Nadine Beiler.

We should cherish that. I certainly know that I do.

Good answer!

I love how these "music snobs" pull their Adele and Florence card as some sort of argumentation... well Florence+Machine is one of my favorite current acts and I just LOOOOOVE their latest album... but that doesn't prevent me from liking fun pop music aswell with women shaking what God gave them (well obviously only Eastern European women, because they are only "unclassy enough" to do such things)... *yawn*

 

[AlekS]

They know how to make a big choreography on crappy songs.
I go for Adele, or Florence & the machine, if you want to know what kind of female artists I prefer. I don't consider this contribution to the song contest not as a song, nor as art. No one wants to go a funeral on Eurovision day, but I don't want to go to circus neither. I want to enjoy singing.
Mika hasn't had a particular good song nor outstanding voice. It was the sandpainting gimmick which helped her.
And Gaitana - Where's the "voice"? I can hear something but I wouldn't consider that a "voice". All I see is carneval on stage.

Sue me for voting for this "crappy song", for voting for Mika's song and for liking this carnival!
oh, and I like Adele as well, so?