UKRAINE 2012 - Gaitana - Be My Guest
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Sabiondo
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Re: UKRAINE 2012
I thing that Gaytana its more swited for Ukraine this time... since she is verry popular and his song its likely to like for Young & Adult people as well...
But as i said, NTU its now unpredicteble and any of both won't will win and i fear that another semi-unknow artist will get the chance to go to Baku.
I thing that Gaytana its more swited for Ukraine this time... since she is verry popular and his song its likely to like for Young & Adult people as well...
But as i said, NTU its now unpredicteble and any of both won't will win and i fear that another semi-unknow artist will get the chance to go to Baku.
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Oooh yeah! Although Im in Lviv, we dont have Pershyi Natsionalnyi so I would love to watch it
would be lovely of you to share the link
Max is still 1st on say.tv.
@Yulichka, are you going to watch the live draw today? It starts at 23:40 (if they don't blah blah until 1AM as always) @Shuster Live show.
Do you need a link?
Oooh yeah! Although Im in Lviv, we dont have Pershyi Natsionalnyi so I would love to watch it
would be lovely of you to share the link Re: UKRAINE 2012
Alternative: http://tv.vnutri.info/tv-ukrainian/yt1
(you can change it according to your I-net speed)
or this: http://stream-tv.org.ua/ukraina/52-ut-1.html
It's on their site: http://1tv.com.ua/uk/liveOooh yeah! Although Im in Lviv, we dont have Pershyi Natsionalnyi so I would love to watch it
Alternative: http://tv.vnutri.info/tv-ukrainian/yt1
(you can change it according to your I-net speed)
or this: http://stream-tv.org.ua/ukraina/52-ut-1.html
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Thank you do you happen to know if Shuster Life is going to be dedicated to Eurovision today?
Thank you
do you happen to know if Shuster Life is going to be dedicated to Eurovision today? 
evilperson
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Re: UKRAINE 2012
You're reaching really far now to pull an insult out of what I said and you're not making much sense because I don't think you understand what I've written based on you saying that I'm generalizing. I refer to Ukraine in ESC since this topic is about that. If you feel personally offended about my critiques about Ukraine in ESC, then that is your issue. Writing things about Canada, for example, wouldn't make sense in the same situation since we aren't a part of ESC, if you can understand that. There is nothing to critique when it comes to ESC, which is what I've been referring to from the beginning. I don't critique Ukraine as a country, I critique it in terms of ESC and that's probably lost in translation when you read it. That, or you just want to believe that I write things with malicious intentions, but again that would be your issue should that be the case.
It's your opinion but I don't deserve attacks in this topic about me being a xenophobe or Ukrainian hater because I'm not. So please stop.
Ukraine has problems nearly every year so it's a relevant discussion. I've seen problems in other countries being discussed as well so it's not fair to say that everyone just picks on Ukraine.
Of course nothing, I and other UA members simply suck because we're Ukrainians, it's Ukraine, c'mon!
You say the name of a country and "don't see" how it's offensive - gr8, way to go )))
Stop this drama and there will be no drama.
Tina Karol changed just the lyrics, the song's structure stayed the same. But of course even that is a crime
You're reaching really far now to pull an insult out of what I said and you're not making much sense because I don't think you understand what I've written based on you saying that I'm generalizing. I refer to Ukraine in ESC since this topic is about that. If you feel personally offended about my critiques about Ukraine in ESC, then that is your issue. Writing things about Canada, for example, wouldn't make sense in the same situation since we aren't a part of ESC, if you can understand that. There is nothing to critique when it comes to ESC, which is what I've been referring to from the beginning. I don't critique Ukraine as a country, I critique it in terms of ESC and that's probably lost in translation when you read it. That, or you just want to believe that I write things with malicious intentions, but again that would be your issue should that be the case.
It's your opinion but I don't deserve attacks in this topic about me being a xenophobe or Ukrainian hater because I'm not. So please stop.
and here it goes like every year...
aren't you guys a bit tired of talking about it over and over again? It was last year, it's in the past, we have a new selection this year. Almost every country has some faults in the system of voting and selection, but no one seems to be so bothered with them as with Ukraine
Ukraine has problems nearly every year so it's a relevant discussion. I've seen problems in other countries being discussed as well so it's not fair to say that everyone just picks on Ukraine.
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I believe that evilperson clarified his position, it is not about Ukraine as a country but Ukraine in ESC. Let's look at the intent of the comments and I believe it will solve most of our problems and misunderstandings.
Ukraine has a history of mismanaged NF's, nobody is denying that and it's okay to discuss and aggree/disagree on it as long as it never becomes an attack on the people of a particular country. In this context the word 'Ukraine' is used in lieu of 'NTU" (National Broadcaster) and it's okay to discuss or critize the National Broadcasters as long as it doesn't cross the line.
Let's all keep in mind that most of us don't mean to offend anyone, we just like to express our views and opinions and even though we may not think it's inappropriate or offensive, everyone has different levels of sensitivity so all I can do is to encourage everyone to proof read their posts and think about what they wrote and if it could be interpreted as offensive or hurtful. To make a long story short I am going to use three words that will summarize everything I said:
Use Common Sense
I believe that evilperson clarified his position, it is not about Ukraine as a country but Ukraine in ESC. Let's look at the intent of the comments and I believe it will solve most of our problems and misunderstandings.
Ukraine has a history of mismanaged NF's, nobody is denying that and it's okay to discuss and aggree/disagree on it as long as it never becomes an attack on the people of a particular country. In this context the word 'Ukraine' is used in lieu of 'NTU" (National Broadcaster) and it's okay to discuss or critize the National Broadcasters as long as it doesn't cross the line.
Let's all keep in mind that most of us don't mean to offend anyone, we just like to express our views and opinions and even though we may not think it's inappropriate or offensive, everyone has different levels of sensitivity so all I can do is to encourage everyone to proof read their posts and think about what they wrote and if it could be interpreted as offensive or hurtful. To make a long story short I am going to use three words that will summarize everything I said:
Use Common Sense
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I haven't listened to any of the songs or artists yet but I am rooting for a male singer. Ukraine fell into the pattern of sending female vocalists and I'd like them to switch it up this year. So go Male singers!!!! Or go bands!!!!!
I haven't listened to any of the songs or artists yet but I am rooting for a male singer. Ukraine fell into the pattern of sending female vocalists and I'd like them to switch it up this year. So go Male singers!!!! Or go bands!!!!!
Re: UKRAINE 2012
Vinogradov at least promotes his song in vk, Max doesn't promote this at all, also it's weird that he said nothing in his Twitter, maybe he doesn't want to participate.
Carolus
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Re: UKRAINE 2012
he should better ring all bells then. getting enough people to vote should not be hard, as Z.Dance teasers got 50-100K views, and those are only previews. But then again, after last couple of our bizzare NFs, there are no favourites and final outcome is all but predictable.
he should better ring all bells then. getting enough people to vote should not be hard, as Z.Dance teasers got 50-100K views, and those are only previews. But then again, after last couple of our bizzare NFs, there are no favourites and final outcome is all but predictable.
Re: UKRAINE 2012
1. Shanis
2. Vitaliy Galai
3. say.tv qualifier (tbd on February 14)
4. Olga Polyakova
5. Eduard Romanyuta
6. Lyogkiy Flirt
7. Igor Tatarenko
8. Mikhail Gritskan
9. Maria Sazonova & Tikhon Levchenko
10. Marta
11. Gaitana
12. Oxana Nesterenko
13. Rapira
14. Andrey Bogomolets
15. Bondarchuk
16. Rapira
17. Treeorange
18. The Incredibles (the wildcard)
19. Matias
20. Yl'yana Rudakova
21. Marietta
22. Lena Voloshina
2. Vitaliy Galai
3. say.tv qualifier (tbd on February 14)
4. Olga Polyakova
5. Eduard Romanyuta
6. Lyogkiy Flirt
7. Igor Tatarenko
8. Mikhail Gritskan
9. Maria Sazonova & Tikhon Levchenko
10. Marta
11. Gaitana
12. Oxana Nesterenko
13. Rapira
14. Andrey Bogomolets
15. Bondarchuk
16. Rapira
17. Treeorange
18. The Incredibles (the wildcard)
19. Matias
20. Yl'yana Rudakova
21. Marietta
22. Lena Voloshina
Re: UKRAINE 2012
Hello EVERYBODY, this is my first post for this season. Unfortunately I missed most of National conquest somehow and I hadn't heard any songs except Gaitana's (and I hate it since the 1 time).
But the biggest tragedy I have is that I won't see the Final just because I'm Working in Saturday. OMG What a rubbish - is to organize such IMPORTANT performance in the daytime SOOC
Hello EVERYBODY, this is my first post for this season. Unfortunately I missed most of National conquest somehow and I hadn't heard any songs except Gaitana's (and I hate it since the 1 time)
.But the biggest tragedy I have is that I won't see the Final just because I'm Working in Saturday. OMG What a rubbish - is to organize such IMPORTANT performance in the daytime SOOC
Re: UKRAINE 2012
Something strange is going on with Say.TV voting. The guy Vinogradov who was a rival of Max stopped at one moment and his votes don't rise anymore. On the other hand Lena Shtefan who was outsider got more than 1300 votes and it only some 30 votes behind Max. What the hell??? :?
Something strange is going on with Say.TV voting. The guy Vinogradov who was a rival of Max stopped at one moment and his votes don't rise anymore. On the other hand Lena Shtefan who was outsider got more than 1300 votes and it only some 30 votes behind Max. What the hell??? :?