Televoting Results.

[GWTW1939]

compete breakdown of the televote country by country

14 perfect marks for Italy, 6 for Russia and only 3 for Sweden

 

[SuperGirl]

compete breakdown of the televote country by country

14 perfect marks for Italy, 6 for Russia and only 3 for Sweden

Means Italy has big diaspora voting for them unlike especially Sweden.

Also the runnig order maybe has something to do with this?

 

[GWTW1939]

Means Italy has big diaspora voting for them unlike especially Sweden.

Also the runnig order maybe has something to do with this?

Or maybe they just loved Italy best

Entries have flopped after performing last as well so that's no really valid

 

[Gera11]

Means Italy has big diaspora voting for them unlike especially Sweden.

Also the runnig order maybe has something to do with this?

I can already spot the obvious Albania 12, Romania 12, Spain 12, Austria 12, Malta 12, San Marino 10, Slovenia 10, France 12. Come on, that's a lot of friendly and neighbor voting -.-

 

[Alaska49]

lol, italy does not have a diaspora. don't go there.

look, i get that it must be infuriating to see people take away from what WAS a deserved victory by mans, but people are not mad that he won, people are mad at the WAY il volo lost. it wasn't a matter of juries ranking il volo lower than mans and polina across the board in a consistent way; it were specific jurors in certain countries, sometimes even going wildly against the other jurors of their country. it looks very weird.

 

[Gera11]

lol, italy does not have a diaspora. don't go there.

look, i get that it must be infuriating to see people take away from what WAS a deserved victory by mans, but people are not mad that he won, people are mad at the WAY italy lost. it wasn't a matter of juries ranking il volo lower than mans and polina across the board in a consistent way; it were specific jurors in certain countries, sometimes even going wildly against the other jurors of their country. it looks very weird.

Well, the point is that Italy didn't win at all. It's just you people trying to nullify the jury vote and pretend that some countries voted for Italy because they loved so much the entry not because they usually tend to vote for that country and this was the perfect moment for it.

For example, I suspect that in Romania Italy got 12 because it's Il Volo Televote isn't perfect either.

 

[SuperGirl]

Or maybe they just loved Italy best

Entries have flopped after performing last as well so that's no really valid

So they loved Italy best but juries cant love Sweden most? Hyprocrise.

 

[Gera11]

Regarding the draw, as Paula said, it does help you a lot with the televote It helped Cezar, it helped them. It helped Il Volo a lot.

 

[Alaska49]

Well, the point is that Italy didn't win at all. It's just you people trying to nullify the jury vote and pretend that some countries voted for Italy because they loved so much the entry not because they usually tend to vote for that country and this was the perfect moment for it.

For example, I suspect that in Romania Italy got 12 because it's Il Volo Televote isn't perfect either.

televoting is not at all perfect but as I've said a few times, televoters do not have the power to actively counteract the jury votes while the reverse does occur. all televoters do is vote for their favorite.

sweden was the clear jury favorite regardless of what they did to italy so mans's victory was fair and square but that doesn't change the fact that what they DID do to italy looks really damn shady. it's sad not only because it's not what this show is about but also because it taints the victory of a perfectly good song. lord knows mans does not need any more scandals, the poor thing.

 

[SuperGirl]

Regarding the draw, as Paula said, it does help you a lot with the televote It helped Cezar, it helped them. It helped Il Volo a lot.

This is why we need juries. They give good entries in the early draw a chance. Or else esc will be a lottery instead.

 

[Gera11]

televoting is not at all perfect but as I've said a few times, televoters do not have the power to actively counteract the jury votes while the reverse does occur. all televoters do is vote for their favorite.

sweden was the clear jury favorite regardless of what they did to italy so mans's victory was fair and square but that doesn't change the fact that what they DID do to italy looks really damn shady. it's sad not only because it's not what this show is about but also because it taints the victory of a perfectly good song. lord knows mans does not need any more scandals, the poor thing.

I agree the jury's vote is a little wierd, I thought they will love Italy But I disagree that all that televoters do is to vote for their favourite. Televoters vote for so many god damn reasons. We don't even know if they followed the whole show or they even listened the songs. It's a little..gambling. Plus the unequal number of voters. I want to know all the numbers from the televote too. Plus, from what I've observed, some are voting for the countries that they feel closely to, for example Romania always have Greece, Italy, Moldova in top regardless of song -.-

 

[Gera11]

I can already spot the obvious Albania 12, Romania 12, Spain 12, Austria 12, Malta 12, San Marino 10, Slovenia 10, France 12. Come on, that's a lot of friendly and neighbor voting -.-

Without the extremely 'friendly' televote, Il Volo has 272 points. If those points would have been distributed to different countries then it wouldn't have been a massive victory I feel it's more the case of scoring every friendly vote possible than rather a hot favourite that even the voting blocs were broken, like in 2009/2012.

 

[Alaska49]

i was not talking about the intent behind people's televotes; i mean that televoters only vote for their favourite because that's the format of the show. i cannot rank boggie 27th for the horrible boring dirge that she put the world through, and make it count against her. a juror CAN. that's my entire problem with this situation, not the fact juries liked mans more; they could have liked boggie more and be legit too (god forbid, though).

 

[Gera11]

i was not talking about the intent behind people's televotes; i mean that televoters only vote for their favourite because that's the format of the show. i cannot rank boggie 27th for the horrible boring dirge that she put the world through, and make it count against her. a juror CAN. that's my entire problem with this situation, not the fact juries liked mans more; they could have liked boggie more and be legit too (god forbid, though).

Oh What I wanted to prove is that the televote isn't flawless either, but yeah, it has a lesser effect than the current jury system. The only reason for this, I guess, was to nullify the diaspora vote when the song is dreadful, but this got out of controll, really :?

 

[alca]

I didn't know where to ask this but I was on my phone and didn't really pay attention during the voting but did we connect with Portugal and the rest of the countries after we lost them? I don't remember Spain getting Portugal's 12!

 

[Dorientje]

Italy Belgium Estonia Australia have the biggest diasporas in Europe I assume

Haha that is a good one haha Belgium having a diaspora that is a good Joke

 

[FilipFromSweden]

I don't get why would EBU be afraid of Italy's hosting?

Because I don't think Italy and Italian TV has enough interest to host it.

 

[revallsay]

Jury did it to us again, nice. Why can't I be happy for the winner(s) (both Mans and Il Volo)? Insyead I have to be pissed again, because we could do much better again, but our beloved juries decided Poland sucks.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

At the end of the day, juries are fully capable and allowed to vote however they want to. They are not there to support the televoting results, which they don't even know since they vote a whole day before the televoters so don't throw them in the dirt, throw EBU in the dirt. I'm happy Italy didn't win, they we're obviously pushed by their starting position while Sweden had 17 songs after them.

But on the other hand it's hard to not be biased when your own country just won and you made a memory for life yesturday. In reality I want all the juries gone

 

[darkap]

Because I don't think Italy and Italian TV has enough interest to host it.

Your're right at the second point, but not the first.
It was the second most watched ESC after the 1991 hosting.