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Televotes vs. Juries - Your guess

rajo

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TELEVOTE
1. Sweden
2. Russia
3. Turkey
4. Azerbaijan
5. Greece

JURY VOTE
1. Sweden
2. Albania
3. Serbia
4. Estonia
5. Germany
 

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Sweden, Albania, Spain, Serbia, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Russia Italy and Germany were obviously the jury's favourites. Sweden and also Russia surely had excellent results with both jury and televote. Liking or not, these songs were unanimously Europe's favourites going far beyond any diaspora or friendly votes.

I think Turkey had better results with the televote.

Greece, Cyprus and Ukraine might have scored well with the televoters but not with the jury.
 

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Peepz, don't be shocked to see that the televote results are a bit higher than some you expect for Albania's entry.
 

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In the semi finals:

:dk: was a jury save. :hu: was a televote save. :fi: came top 10 with jury. :ch: top 10 with televote

:no: and :lt: were televote saves. :mt: and :ba: were jury saves. :pt: and :hr: were top 10 with jury. :bg: and :by: were top 10 with televote.
 

Den

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hmm...

Jury
1 :se: or :al:
3 :ee:
4 :es:
5 :de:

Televoting
1 :se:
2 :ru: (maybe even equal to Loreen)
3 :rs:
4 :tr:
5 :az:
 

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I am not sure at all (little ideas where to put the likes of Albania) but I think it could be like this.

Televotings:

1st Sweden
2nd Russia
3rd Serbia
4th Turkey
5th Italy
6th Albania
7th Romania
8th Ukraine
9th Azerbaijan
10th Moldova

Jury:

1st Sweden
2nd Spain
3rd Azerbaijan
4th Germany
5th Estonia
6th Serbia
7th Albania
8th Moldova
9th Italy
10th Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

Sweden's victory should not be certain at all though if the jury really ignored Russia. I predict a close race.
 

rajo

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It's time to reveal split votes country by country. The charts are already telling different stories about the people's likes.
 

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I'm pretty sure Sweden won both the televote and the jury vote. There's no way to achieve such a score without winning both. And I'm pretty sure Norway received 0 jury points each maybe a 1:er from Sweden, but that's doubtful.
 

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IMO jury votes went to:
- Albania
- Azerbaijan
- Estonia
- Germany
- Sweden
- Spain
- beyond that is not important as such countries would most likely got 0 points combined and I think that FYR Macedonia got some and so did Bosnia & Herzegovina and United Kingdom.

Televotes went to:
- Sweden
- Russia
- Serbia
- Greece
- Cyprus
- Romania
 

Mozz

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I wouldn't be so sure about the (assumed) higher televoting results for Greece and Cyprus. Has it not crossed your minds that maybe the Eurovision viewers are a bit tired of those entries?

Also my suspicion is that Loreen has swallowed a lot of the votes from people who would normally vote for Greece/Cyprus. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that yet, instead keep blaming the juries and the ballads.......Most people just give 1 maybe 2 votes. And with all the hype around Loreen the goddess 'Oh I love her so much, bla bla, and Euphoria is so great and unique bla bla', Greece and Cypus could have been just the victims of that.
 

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I hope you are right Mozz... I did like both the Greek and Cypriot songs, but in a way I'm glad Greece didn't do well as it's the same entry all over again year after year, give or take a few exceptions.
 

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aaa... can't they just release it already? I never get why it takes them so long to release the numbers, I mean they already have them.

And why do we never get the split votes (televotes / juries) for each country aswell? I think this system is very fishy and non-transparent, quite undemocratic imo.
 

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aaa... can't they just release it already? I never get why it takes them so long to release the numbers, I mean they already have them.

And why do we never get the split votes (televotes / juries) for each country aswell? I think this system is very fishy and non-transparent, quite undemocratic imo.
I think it's usually each country's jury/broadcaster that releases their split jury and televoting points. As the identities of the members of the juries aren't kept private, it's possible that some jury members are uncomfortable to reveal how they voted.
 

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^ If there is need to be ashamed(!) of their valuations then, for god's sake, why should these votes count as much as the opinions of thousands or (in some countries) million viewers?
 

RainyWoods

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I have this really out there feeling that Sweden possibly didnt win either the public vote or that of the jury. I think Russia won the public vote and Albania the jury. I can see Sweden getting a very strong 2nd place in both Jury and Televote. I cannot in a sane world (although I love the grannies) see Russia scoring highly at all with the juries, yet they got such a high amount of points on the night. I honestly can't see the juries helping them achieve what in most years would be enough for a victory. With Albania I can sense overwhelming jury support but still I believe Suus alienated the general public.

This all could kinda make sense as why have we yet to see the full results? Because if this is indeed the case and Sweden has not won the public vote especially, they will want to keep this information back as long as possible, so as not to put a damper on her win.
 
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