Sweden SWEDEN 2023 - Loreen - Tattoo

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[HayashiM]

(With that said, I agree Tatoo has one of the most amazing stagings I'd ever seen and I would very happy to see it in Liverpool)

 

[0scar]

Unpopular opinion but songwise All My Life (Where Have You Been) > Tattoo
executing on stage is a totally different story though

 

[dannytr24]

lol, all the years, if someone had a great voice or overdramatic staging like Sheldon last year or Gjon‘s tears or Azerbaijan last year all people went „it’s not about the voice!!! It’s not a voice contest!!! It’s not about massive props on stage!!! It’s not a prop contest!!! It’s not about the tears and dramatic hand gestures!!! It’s a contest of the overall package!!!“

But now a mediocre Loreen performs and of course, exceptions are made for "the Queen“.

To me Loreen is 5 points at best in either song, voice or performance. Overhyped, as much as the Finnish entry.

Not my evening tonight!

This is so true

 

[BorisBubbles]

I loved Loreen :-) "Tattoo" is not the best of her work, nor will it win ESC, but I'm happy it won the semi and hopefully it shall this GODAWFUL melfest to earn a healthy third place in Liverpool.

Heat 4 was mostly really good though :3 idk whether i'm experiencing one of my "I'll just like everything" days, but I enjoyed everyone. Even Axel didn't bother me and I HATE that sort of entries normally. What a relief after sitting through 21 shitty songs, to finally experience a good night of Melfest :3 one that got completely overshadowed by UMK and FdC ofc.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Do us proud? It sounds like a bad Eric Saade/Danny song... 10 years too late.

Eh, I think it deserves a little more credit. Pop done by one or several guys isn't automatically bad. Air isn't a copy of that Eric/Danny type of music like Liamoo's Bluffin was last year, I hear a bit of Everything but the girl in Air

 

[simori95]

I‘ve had Tattoo on repeat for almost an hour now and I keep not being able to stop because I love it so much. Someone get help before I turn into Cinan from Wiwibloggs

 

[hunty73]

I think the staging etc is of course great,but whats lacking is the song,its pretty weak.The EBU will be desperate to stop a Ukraine win this year,although that will never be mentioned it is a fact.The contest has been damaged more and more by going too woke,and another charity award would be a disaster.I say that as someone who thinks Ukraine have been amazing at ESC over the years.The EBU must of been looking at every entry coming in praying that something could win the jury by enough to beat Ukraine winning the televote again by a large margin as is likely ,and then getting very worried when they saw the selections.It is possible Sweden could do just enough to secure that, but its far from given.It would have to be package way over song.There are still a few countries to play their hands though,plus entries with potential like Spain to really nail their staging/lighting etc.If someone is to beat Ukraine its likely they will need to win the jury easily and get a decent top 3 televote.

 

[I bims]

by going too woke

I stopped reading at that part

 

[simori95]

I think the staging etc is of course great,but whats lacking is the song,its pretty weak.The EBU will be desperate to stop a Ukraine win this year,although that will never be mentioned it is a fact.The contest has been damaged more and more by going too woke,and another charity award would be a disaster.I say that as someone who thinks Ukraine have been amazing at ESC over the years.The EBU must of been looking at every entry coming in praying that something could win the jury by enough to beat Ukraine winning the televote again by a large margin as is likely ,and then getting very worried when they saw the selections.It is possible Sweden could do just enough to secure that, but its far from given.It would have to be package way over song.There are still a few countries to play their hands though,plus entries with potential like Spain to really nail their staging/lighting etc.If someone is to beat Ukraine its likely they will need to win the jury easily and get a decent top 3 televote.

No offense but that sounds an awful lot like (unfounded!) conspiracy theory.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Some are so obssessed that people's solidarity or emotions about Ukraine would rob a win from some standad or mediocre pop song irrelevant for music industry in any way.

I just can't listen to this every year.

Please leave Ukraine out of this fanwanking mess of tiny souls.

And no, Tvorchi won't win. You can sleep restlessly.

 

[midnightsun]

Loreen is a great live singer, I think the "haters" are just trying to pick whatever thing they can come up with... if someone doesn't like the song fine but to claim she is a bad live singer and performer like really?

I didn’t say this. Celine Dion is technically one of the best singers on this planet, yet I can’t stand her voice. Same with Loreen in terms of voice. This doesn‘t mean she is a bad vocalist, technically.

Her live performance isn’t spectacular. I didn’t like Euphoria back then and also not her performance again and she does it again with her hands, so why should I like it this time? I don’t like La Zarras hand gestures either. I understood why people didn’t like Gjon‘s or Sheldon’s hand gestures although I loved both songs! Tastes are different.

So, no, I’m not impressed by Loreen. Anyways, it’s good for you guys so I‘m happy for you that your favourite won.

I‘m just surprised about the bias in the Eurovision bubble. If it’s a male performance it’s always „go away with these extra dramatic over the top performances“ but females are "slay queen“.

But I don’t want to spoil your happiness. I come back when either Mariette or Melanie wins (which won’t happen) or to congratulate M & M, for the lack of anything better and that’s the best Sweden can do now.

 

[Deleted member 12761]

I clicked on the ignore button as soon as I saw the word woke. Not here for this right wing bs.

I just watched Loreen's performance and wow. The staging really elevates the song. It's powerful, emotional, beautiful, a moment. This could be Swedens 7th Eurovision victory and I'm here for it. I love Loreen. She deserves the world. And the stage invasion was just stupid. There was so much fog on that stage what was the point?

 

[Franzilein]

lol, all the years, if someone had a great voice or overdramatic staging like Sheldon last year or Gjon‘s tears or Azerbaijan last year all people went „it’s not about the voice!!! It’s not a voice contest!!! It’s not about massive props on stage!!! It’s not a prop contest!!! It’s not about the tears and dramatic hand gestures!!! It’s a contest of the overall package!!!“

But now a mediocre Loreen performs and of course, exceptions are made for "the Queen“.

To me Loreen is 5 points at best in either song, voice or performance. Overhyped, as much as the Finnish entry.

Not my evening tonight!

I wanted to agree with you. I also think Tattoo is insanely colourless, building up to a climax that never comes – musical blue balls, basically.

But you can't deny that Loreen performs like a champ.
And I think that the combination of insane performer + meh song is infinitely better than meh performer + insane song (e.g. Benjamin in Finland today, I adored Hoida Mut, but my boy didn't even try to hit the high notes live )

... so my totally unbiased conclusion is that Sweden should just vote for Smash Into Pieces, as they both deliver live and have an incredibly catchy song

 

[I bims]

I‘m just surprised about the bias in the Eurovision bubble. If it’s a male performance it’s always „go away with these extra dramatic over the top performances“ but females are "slay queen“.

Will the discrimination against men by the gay community ever end? /s

 

[Iker]

One part of the fandom: "People have insane standards just because it's Loreen!"
Another part of the fandom: "People hype Tatoo just because it's Loreen!"

I literally laughed out loud!

Personally I find Tattoo very good as a track and that stage performance is what I find astonishing.

 

[midnightsun]

But you can't deny that Loreen performs like a champ.

She did. It‘s very impressing how one can sing and move at the same time so flawlessly. Yet I didn’t like the performance.

Maybe I wasn’t in the right mood tonight.
I even didn’t like Six Feet Under much and I usually love Smash into pieces…

 

[ollibox]

Looren literally saving Sweden, because if it wasn't for her, they were so deserving a NQ.

Good job @Looren

For me, the biggest discovery of the evening - Looren is a "she"

 

[simori95]

I didn’t say this. Celine Dion is technically one of the best singers on this planet, yet I can’t stand her voice. Same with Loreen in terms of voice. This doesn‘t mean she is a bad vocalist, technically.

Her live performance isn’t spectacular. I didn’t like Euphoria back then and also not her performance again and she does it again with her hands, so why should I like it this time? I don’t like La Zarras hand gestures either. I understood why people didn’t like Gjon‘s or Sheldon’s hand gestures although I loved both songs! Tastes are different.

So, no, I’m not impressed by Loreen. Anyways, it’s good for you guys so I‘m happy for you that your favourite won.

I‘m just surprised about the bias in the Eurovision bubble. If it’s a male performance it’s always „go away with these extra dramatic over the top performances“ but females are "slay queen“.

But I don’t want to spoil your happiness. I come back when either Mariette or Melanie wins (which won’t happen) or to congratulate M & M, for the lack of anything better and that’s the best Sweden can do now.

I personally believe that a lot of times (though I wouldn’t ever claim it’s exclusively this way) those that scream „slay queen“ about women aren’t the ones ranting against men doing the same thing. I do think there might be a (hopefully) small margin of people that your comment actually applies to and those need to check their bias. Now about what I actually wanted to comment about. Certainly, everyone has their own taste and nobody needs to LIKE Loreens stage show, but I truly fail to see how it wasn’t spectacular, as in a spectacle. Might be a negative spectacle to you, but still a spectacle, no? I mean if not, fair enough but I would truly appreciate if you could tell me why it wasn’t a spectacle to you. At least in the sphere of eurovision, I would classify this as „never before seen“

 

[simori95]

She did. It‘s very impressing how one can sing and move at the same time so flawlessly. Yet I didn’t like the performance.

Sorry, I was apparently too late.

 

[midnightsun]

but I would truly appreciate if you could tell me why it wasn’t a spectacle to you.

How do I keep it short : let’s just say I got feelings of constriction when I saw her between the floor and that panel above her. I like it when there is more energy and not just lying around. I didn’t like Loic's part of the performance when he was on the floor in 2015. But he had an awesome song at least.