Sweden SWEDEN 2023 - Loreen - Tattoo

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Iker]

Easily the worst winner since Russia 2008

Is it a cope? What about Azerbaijan from 2011?

 

[MooseShoes]

Is it a cope? What about Azerbaijan from 2011?

Both 2008's and 2011's winners are hideous, clearly. Anyone who sat through the final all-televote final listening to ex-Soviet state jury spokespeople spouting out garbage like, "And our twelve points go to, he told us to Believe, RUSSIA!!!" should think twice before suggesting getting rid of juries, despite their flaws.

 

[Ezio]

We shouldn’t get rid off juries, only Sweden should

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Is it a cope? What about Azerbaijan from 2011?

Running Scared >>>>>> Believe. Believe is one of the worst winners ever imo, in 2009 he would have been close to last place, but in 2008 it won because the competition was not strong... 2008 to 2009 is the biggest step in quality from one Eurovision year to the following: 2008 was one of the worst editions ever songwise, 2009 was the best of the 2000's

 

[Iker]

Running Scared >>>>>> Believe. Believe is one of the worst winners ever imo, in 2009 he would have been close to last place, but in 2008 it won because the competition was not strong... 2008 to 2009 is the biggest step in quality from one Eurovision year to the following: 2008 was one of the worst editions ever songwise, 2009 was the best of the 2000's

2008 still had plenty of good songs. I think Dima Bilan wouldn't have won though in 2009 indeed as the competition was stronger. I also disliked Believe.

He had a couple of gimmicks on stage that helped him with televoting. And I think they promoted the entry intensively.

 

[Ezio]

Running Scared >>>>>> Believe. Believe is one of the worst winners ever imo, in 2009 he would have been close to last place, but in 2008 it won because the competition was not strong... 2008 to 2009 is the biggest step in quality from one Eurovision year to the following: 2008 was one of the worst editions ever songwise, 2009 was the best of the 2000's

2009 was great indeed. I still listen to Finland and Lithuania, and many others.

 

[Andromache]

"Tattoo" is charting on the UK's official single charts this week at #2 (Euphoria #3). Congrats to Loreen!

 

[gigi_copp3]

"Tattoo" is charting on the UK's official single charts this week at #2 (Euphoria #3). Congrats to Loreen!

In Italy Tattoo is at #24, when Euphoria's peak in its time was at #27

 

[soulm8]

How the tables turned!? This so “not deserving “ winner is doing great in every chart and is pretty much popular everywhere. While joke or clown acts so loved at the night of the Grand Final disappeared once Eurovision is over. No more to be said!

 

[empo21]

The tables were never 'turned'. Tattoo came 2nd in the televote and has been charting pre-show as well.

 

[AndroZeus]

How the tables turned!? This so “not deserving “ winner is doing great in every chart and is pretty much popular everywhere. While joke or clown acts so loved at the night of the Grand Final disappeared once Eurovision is over. No more to be said!

Yeah, and it's definitely the only song that's charting, uh huh...

 

[soulm8]

The tables were never 'turned'. Tattoo came 2nd in the televote and has been charting pre-show as well.

Well, the die hard fans said Loreen won only because of the jury.

 

[Andromache]

She also has nearly 11 mio. listeners on Spotify (Käärijä around 5.5 mio.). I wish she would use the hype and release an EP at least. November is so far away. She has two big promo platforms coming with the next Melodifestivalen and Eurovision 2024 as an intervall act.

 

[GermanBango]

Said it once, said it a million times: nobody cares about all this (completely manufactured) drama a few days after the final.

 

[12Points]

Loreen saved both ESC and Melfest thankfully, if she didn't appear this year we would get that finnish win ugh.
She's giving all of her on stage at the end.

 

[Koori]

How the tables turned!? This so “not deserving “ winner is doing great in every chart and is pretty much popular everywhere. While joke or clown acts so loved at the night of the Grand Final disappeared once Eurovision is over. No more to be said!

Lies.

 

[Realest]

A new Worldrecord

 

[Ezio]

First song I heard on the bus today, Cha Cha Cha

 

[ESC United Mod Team]

Enough with the insults. This stops now.

 

[jatojo]

I am still surprised that he got those many points from the juries, watched his jury show performance, his vocals were bad in the second half. People really believe he had a jury friendly entry that he should have been higher than #4 with the juries?

I actually thought he sounded relatively badly throughout the whole song. The "rap" (let's just call it that) sounded far worse than in the studio version.

That doesn't mean that he shouldn't get jury points at all, but yeah, a 4th place with the juries is remarkable.