Sweden SWEDEN 2023 - Loreen - Tattoo

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[FilipFromSweden]

I'm one of those who say that Finland is more likely to win because of Sweden's staging seems disappointing and hype around Finland increases but let's not forget when the rehearsals were taking place for 2018 the reactions for Netta's staging were bad and everyone was hyping Foureira. Duncan didn't have good reactions during the rehearsals either.

Fandom hype ... I remember that the fandom went crazy for Cyprus in 2018 and it felt like Israel got left behind a little in the fandom hype, yet Israel won with 100+ points over Cyprus

 

[hijirio]

It's not only the size for me, but also the projection on it seems very dull in comparison to the LED in Melodifestivalen.
Not to mention the lights are too bright, the whole mystic vibe is gone.
Also judging from the short clip, her vocals are not as impressive as in Mello.

But I still think she will win. After all, the final product is not a magestic flop. The arena will go eclectic when she performs and the energy will also reflect to the viewers. Another big indicator is that all former and current participants already started covering Tattoo. I expect an overwhelming jury support, and perhaps a narrow 2nd place in the televote.

Do I think she is the best/most deserving act to hold the trophy? No.
But c'est la vie.

 

[MopManMoss]

It's not only the size for me, but also the projection on it seems very dull in comparison to the LED in Melodifestivalen.
Not to mention the lights are too bright, the whole mystic vibe is gone.
Also judging from the short clip, her vocals are not as impressive as in Mello.

But I still think she will win. After all, the final product is not a magestic flop. The arena will go eclectic when she performs and the energy will also reflect to the viewers. Another big indicator is that all former and current participants already started covering Tattoo. I expect an overwhelming jury support, and perhaps a narrow 2nd place in the televote.

Do I think she is the best/most deserving act to hold the trophy? No.
But c'est la vie.

Agree with everything youve said here but the vocals because of course they wont be on the level of mello for just a rehearsal, these rehearsals are much more about learning where to look and when than knocking it out of the park vocally every time

 

[Ezio]

Sellaaa weeeeeee
Sheuuuuh deeeee nooooo

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

Untill 2022 I considered Euphoria the best ESC entry ever, now Tattoo has surpassed it for me, people can say its basic or whatever, for me it will be a crime if this track doesn't win ESC.

 

[ayzelto]

 

[Mrlazzyjazzy]

I think she's still winning easily. Even with her shakey vocals and unflattering close up shots, and that big bezel on the top led France is getting overhyped massively.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Untill 2022 I considered Euphoria the best ESC entry ever, now Tattoo has surpased it for me, people can say its basic or whatever, for me it will be a crime if this track doesn't win ESC.

I agree, it's become my most streamed song on Spotify ever (since 2011). When I think back at the jury winners/runner-ups I just don't see how they're not going to give her close to 300 points

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

I can't see anyone but Sweden taking it now. It's the only entry I see doing well enough in both televote and jury to win.

Loreen will romp home with the jury and get a top 5 televote score.
Kaarija won't do well enough in jury, his televote won't make up for that.
France - I can't see it getting enough televote support.
Ukraine - won't win

It's Sweden's.

 

[GermanBango]

I'm definitely ready to go to Sweden next year. My bf has a Eurovision-loving family over there so let's goooo.

 

[blue00eyes]

I think she's still winning easily. Even with her shakey vocals and unflattering close up shots, and that big bezel on the top led France is getting overhyped massively.

France is the safest of all. Watch them winning.

 

[Ezio]

Wouldnt it be amazing if Sweden opened the grand final and prove to the world that Running Order dont matter?

 

[Ianp16]

Wouldnt it be amazing if Sweden opened the grand final and prove to the world that Running Order dont matter?

Absolutely. Or maybe Finland 1st place and loreen in 2nd to break the curse? As a ESC geek I would LOVE to see this happen just to see how it impacts the voting. We all know it won't though

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I am absolutely obsessed with the instrumental of Tattoo. Just shows how great the production is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5I7trxxNc

 

[Ezio]

I think they should introduce a voting break after the first half. And after the second half people can only vote for the songs of the second half for the same time. And then open the lines for all songs. Maybe it would ease the recency bias.

 

[I bims]

Wouldnt it be amazing if Sweden opened the grand final and prove to the world that Running Order dont matter?

Tattoo isn't really an opening number though. "Cha Cha Cha" on the other hand ...

 

[Ianp16]

I think they should introduce a voting break after the first half. And after the second half people can only vote for the songs of the second half for the same time. And then open the lines for all songs. Maybe it would ease the recency bias.

Great idea but that might add another 30 minutes onto the whole thing, which is now 4 hours long, usually

 

[midnightsun]

Well, there was a time (2009-2011???) where voting lasted the whole time and you could call from the start (when the first song started to perform) but it was abolished, because it wasn’t allegedly not used much enough, so…

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I might be completely wrong. But in 2017 during the exact same time in the season, Italy was the big favourite to win, with Bulgaria and Sweden being the other hot favourites. Portugal was still rising in the odds. We've been there before, why is it impossible to happen again?

If Käärijä doesn't sound better live, he won't be near the Top 5 in the jury. And Loreen's chances with the televote are crumbling cause the staging doesn't translate well with the small press, leaving a large opening for someone else (being 2nd and 3rd in the categories is enough to win). Loreen's chances in the odds are dropping as we speak, the bookies are losing confidence. But people will keep betting on her cause she's an obvious choice, therefore she will remain higher up in the odds.

Not talking about 2011 when we had those top 5's frome the betting odds before the rehearsals and after the jury show:

Pre rehearsals:
5 - Sweden
4 - Hungary
3 - United Kingdom
2 - Estonia
1 - France

After jury show:
5 - Estonia
4 - United Kingdom
3 - Azerbaijan (out of nowhere... Was 11th or 12th pre rehearsals)
2 - Ireland
1 - France

Betting odds are an indicator of what people likes more, but they can be all over the place sometimes...

 

[midnightsun]

2011 was a disaster for fans. All those (fan) flops

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

2011 was a disaster for fans. All those (fan) flops

It was the year Italy was dead last in the odds before jury vote and then finished 2nd only behind Azerbaijan... Just to add another thing about how wrong were the bookies prediction that year...