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SWEDEN 2012 - Loreen - Euphoria

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  • 12

    456 54.9%
  • 10

    71 8.5%
  • 8

    55 6.6%
  • 7

    37 4.5%
  • 6

    26 3.1%
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    25 3.0%
  • 4

    16 1.9%
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    18 2.2%
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    18 2.2%
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    16 1.9%
  • 0

    93 11.2%

  • Total voters
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Musicosity

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Afaik there is no difference. According to the 2012 rulebook the second dress rehearsal is considered to be the event in which the juries will vote.
 

Musicosity

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I don't think it's gonna affect anything. Loreen is an amazing singer and the song is very good. One little cough isn't going to destroy her winning chances.
I don't think it will. But the jury results will be interesting to read, especially when the rumours are true that some other artists gave an outstanding performance. What a music professional actually thinks about Euphoria in relation to the other entries I can't guess.
 

rajo

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I dare say that Sweden won the jury vote. All nordic and baltic countries do not announce their votes before #26 in the runnig order, whereas the Balkan and CEE countries are early.
 

QwaarJet

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Yeah, It looks like Loreen has coughed her way to victory with the juries :D
 

goroos1994

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I don't get it -
Does that mean because Nordic countries are announcing their votes after #26 that Sweden will most likely have scored the highest with the juries (due to the dynamic voting)?
 

rajo

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I don't get it -
Does that mean because Nordic countries are announcing their votes after #26 that Sweden will most likely have scored the highest with the juries (due to the dynamic voting)?


I think so, otherwise the nordic countries would be more evenly scattered within the running order.... so what's wrong with this idea?

It could be also good news for Iceland, Estonia and Lithuania.
 

JackBauer

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What than means if that's computer who know the televoting result from the semis and the juries votes for the final decided (knowing the previous years voting paterns) in order not to make the winner too obvious too early to have no scandinavian annoucing their votes before half of the voting.


So what we can deduce if that probably either Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden & maybe Estonia (or maybe two countries it can be a Nordic fight) did really well with televoting in it's semi and well enough with juries for the computer to think it might be a very logical winner.

To say that it's Sweden is just pure speculation, but that seems like the most logical choice.
 

goroos1994

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Okay, thanks :)
Fingers crossed.
 

pokerpupps

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I dare say that Sweden won the jury vote. All nordic and baltic countries do not announce their votes before #26 in the runnig order, whereas the Balkan and CEE countries are early.

Yeah i agree with you Rajo. Something fishy is going on. As you said, the nordic and the baltic countries votes are quite late in the order. I hope that it's true....
 

rajo

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So it could look like an early runaway for Serbia, but then come the Nordics and put Loreen in front. Just my thought.
 

FallenAngelII

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xgood She did this on her own as a private person and have not even mentioned it as a representative for the Swedish ESC team.
Before anyone criticizes her for doing this: To mention it as a representative of Eurovision would be grounds for disqualification from the contest.

Calm down, people. This is not like a sports jury, where they deduct points for each mistake, as in gymnastics or figure skating. The jury evaluates the performance as a whole, and if that incident didn't have an impact on the overall performance, it shouldn't make a difference.
Exactly what I've been saying. People who have no idea what the juries have been instructed to base their points on should stop crying "She made a mistake! She'll be penalized!".

What than means if that's computer who know the televoting result from the semis and the juries votes for the final decided (knowing the previous years voting paterns) in order not to make the winner too obvious too early to have no scandinavian annoucing their votes before half of the voting.


So what we can deduce if that probably either Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden & maybe Estonia (or maybe two countries it can be a Nordic fight) did really well with televoting in it's semi and well enough with juries for the computer to think it might be a very logical winner.

To say that it's Sweden is just pure speculation, but that seems like the most logical choice.
If we're gonna compare their entries this year, it's pretty obvious that it's Sweden. Norway is just... bad, Denmark is so-so and Iceland has a pretty "meh" live performance. None of them are bad (except Norway), but Sweden just blows the other Nordic countries away this year.

This "dynamic voting" is actually making it slightly more obvious who's gonna win if you just sit down and look at the numbers and voting history. We now know that a Nordic country, most probably Sweden, is very likely to win. They should just do away with it.
 

Musicosity

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Exactly what I've been saying. People who have no idea what the juries have been instructed to base their points on should stop crying "She made a mistake! She'll be penalized!".
If you have some information about the jury instructions please feel free to share it with us. And please don't forget to name your sources.
 

escandesc

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I still don't want to see Sweden winning but there is no one who can bring the contest to his/her country. :/ Loreen can do that.
 

pokerpupps

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I still don't want to see Sweden winning but there is no one who can bring the contest to his/her country. :/ Loreen can do that.

Sweden would certainly be one of the best host ever, if they win. I'm hoping for Stockholm 2013! But Cyprus or Greece 2013 wouldn't be too bad either! =D
 
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