Spain SPAIN 2024 - Nebulossa - Zorra

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Narcis]

I hadn't examined who has written the various Benidorm songs this year, but thanks for telling me.

There is normally a couple of good songs in the Spanish selection - last year 'Nochentera' was the best by far, not only in Spain, but among all entries at the national selections. That song isn't written by Swedes by the way.

I don't know exactly what you mean by me "simply not enjoying a Spanish song contest". I could go through the Benidorm songs that I like from recent years, but instead I'll just say that I have often rated the Spanish songs higher at Eurovision than what their actual results have been (and the results haven't been very good in recent years).

Out of the three editions of Benidorm Fest so far, this one is the closest to what Spanish music scene sounds like to in 2024.

Of course you are allowed to like whatever you want and I'm unfair to pick your message out of many others who think similarly in the ESC fanbase, but if Spain sent another G:son song (Angy) or another hypercliché act done only to please the ESC bubble (Jorge González, Sofía Coll) because "that's what Europe likes" there would be no point in holding a big national final.

And if I already think in a similar way for the whole ESC and all entrants, Spain as Big 5 country has an even bigger responsibility to send something truly representative of its musical industry.

 

[BorisBubbles]

It's such a darling 23rd placer. There were better options, but St. Pedro and Almácor were dodged so, as once would say, The Evil (men) Has Been Defeated.

points.

 

[Paco Roca]

Out of the three editions of Benidorm Fest so far, this one is the closest to what Spanish music scene sounds like to in 2024.

Of course you are allowed to like whatever you want and I'm unfair to pick your message out of many others who think similarly in the ESC fanbase, but if Spain sent another G:son song (Angy) or another hypercliché act done only to please the ESC bubble (Jorge González, Sofía Coll) because "that's what Europe likes" there would be no point in holding a big national final.

And if I already think in a similar way for the whole ESC and all entrants, Spain as Big 5 country has an even bigger responsibility to send something truly representative of its musical industry.

I'm trying to purge my heart of negative elements, some users with their words are succeeding, but I still have some waste.

For me Nebulossa is not representative at all. The sound is 80s and, both in the text and in the staging, I don't see anything so markedly Spanish. It's an iconic song, an anthem but a bad winner.

If we think that Måneskin were forced by the EBU to change a single word "offensive to decorum" (making Sanremo seem more avant-garde than ESC), Nebulossa risks, after a bit of good publicity, being ousted by St.Pedro. I would see this hypothesis as very open, very inclined towards "Spanish drama".

We Spanish fans are not objective. We love each of our winners with such a furious and senseless love that we think that everyone thinks like us. In reality she is only the din of our voices. In reality, Nebulossa's victory and Jorge's great performance in the standings are determined by the few people who voted. Those who voted were a similar audience to the Bubble. This is why many users here say thank you to Spain who finally satisfied them. It wasn't Spain but a small part of the fandom that was able to "make the big splash" thanks to the late hours and the high cost of televoting which didn't make many Spaniards vote.

In one of the Spanish Eurovisual forums, I won't say the name out of respect for EscYOUnited, I see many Spaniards being happy to have taken a popular step that brings us closer to the way of conceiving Sanremo music: "the popular choice wins and we don't think about the public European but to our style of music". However, Italy has 5 tough evenings that the competitors must overcome and a more substantial public vote and the Italian fans are qualitatively demanding. And how does it end? That women never win regardless of the twerking of Lamborghini or Rosa Chemical (which reached a maximum of seventh place...). The same women massacre her if Elodie brings a weak song. Given how Sanremo is constructed, here Nudiecrudi will be able to prove me wrong as he knows more than me, the politically correct or the extravagant are unlikely to win (it can happen but the quality must be extreme). I fear that Nebulossa would have finished twentieth in Sanremo if she had passed the selection.

No, bad winner. Good to quench the thirst of Eurofans but not a winning act. St.Pedro could have played for the win. Angy was great but she would be overwhelmed by the crazy sounds. Perhaps only María Peláe or Jorge's '00s extravagance could have done better. I conclude that many in the Spanish forum say that Nebulossa could be our Gustaph... I don't think so. Our Gustaph was Jorge.

Now I go back to sink my head into my pillow and continue to cry.

 

[Narcis]

Paco, seriously, how can you say the song with the biggest amount of streams before BF, even though it wasn't produced by a major label record, isn't representative of Spain? Sure, televote doesn't tell the truth, but the number of listens and views does.

You may not like it and it's fine. They weren't my favorites either, I voted for two different songs. But it's what Spain wants. And It's great.

 

[Paco Roca]

Paco, seriously, how can you say the song with the biggest amount of streams before BF, even though it wasn't produced by a major label record, isn't representative of Spain? Sure, televote doesn't tell the truth, but the number of listens and views does.

You may not like it and it's fine. They weren't my favorites either, I voted for two different songs. But it's what Spain wants. And It's great.

Narcis, yes ok. I'm not saying that I hate Nebulossa but that the record of views is determined by other factors: our hysterical happiness, people's curiosity to see that an unusual song has won over stronger contenders and because in Spain it has created a fairy tale. The tale tells of her signing up for the competition without him knowing. They weren't famous and now they go to ESC. Beautiful but it's a shame that in Europe there are so many specific situations that seem heart-pounding to us, others experience them with indifference. Tix was still dropped to mid-table even though he shouted out his childhood problem to everyone. I really fear that those who praise us now, when Olly comes in with a more iconic song will abandon us saying "Nebulossa is ok but Olly is better". Also never forget that the taste of the Bubble never corresponds to success. Ronela Hajati? Senhit? If we had to listen to the words of the extremists they would have won. Yet that type of audience is the one who doesn't vote often, follows the show just to have fun, puts their own radical tastes before logic, follows non-winning horses for the sake of going against the grain and who changes their minds easily (they are vampires thirsty for new sound and extravagances). I fear that Spain has made the mistake of overestimating the Bubble and here there is a risk that once it bursts we will fall ruinously.

I hope I'm wrong and that you can tell me at the end of the contest that I'm a fool.

 

[Mainshow]

TELEVOTING RESULTS

Nebullossa: 4,884
Jorge: 4,882

3 more calls for Jorge and he would have won the televoting! Oo

• Nebulossa – 4,484 votes
• Jorge González – 4,482 votes
• Angy Fernández – 3,888 votes
• Almácor – 3,779 votes
• st. Pedro – 3,739 votes
• Sofia Coll – 2,815 votes
• María Peláe – 1,627 votes
• Miss Caffeina – 1,096 votes

🇪🇸 Spain: Two Votes Separated Nebulossa & Jorge González in Benidorm Fest 2024 Final Televote - Eurovoix

RTVE has released the full results from the final of Benidorm Fest 2024, revealing a very close televoting result.

eurovoix.com

 

[sucof]

From Benidorm to Sanremo !
A delegation from Benidorm will be in Italy next week to attend the festival's serate and learn about the festival's organization

 

[HarryUK]

Omg camp grandma won

Iconic

 

[MopManMoss]

TELEVOTING RESULTS

Nebullossa: 4,884
Jorge: 4,882

3 more calls for Jorge and he would have won the televoting! Oo

🇪🇸 Spain: Two Votes Separated Nebulossa & Jorge González in Benidorm Fest 2024 Final Televote - Eurovoix

RTVE has released the full results from the final of Benidorm Fest 2024, revealing a very close televoting result.

eurovoix.com

2 million viewers and the televote winner had 4884 votes lol sort it out rtve

 

[Mainshow]

2 million viewers and the televote winner had 4884 votes lol sort it out rtve

It's ridiculous and pathetic.
But I guess that's what you get when you give 75% power to juries, charge 2€ per vote, don't offer competitive entries and tailor all performances for a target audience which can't vote anyway because they're on Grindr 24/7

 

[Looren]

2 million viewers and the televote winner had 4884 votes lol sort it out rtve

Understandable since voting is so costly it would make you homeless

 

[Laepo1]

ay ay espana. its going to fight for the last places, but soooo entertaining.

I hope the dancers are the same. cuties.

 

[Yoozek]

Last year it wasn't that obvious of a flop, it could go either way. Now there are absolutely no doubts.

That's the kind of bullshit ESC entry people in Poland watch, then consider the whole concert as western trash contest and not a singing competition. Spanish people have extremely wild taste in performances and what they consider eurovision-capable. No wonder why they keep flopping.

I remember they kept b*tching at Channel winning cause they wanted some woman with a giant boob on stage to represent them.

 

[Decayingbooks]

Although I would like to see Nebulossa getting a good result in Eurovision(and I probably will be voting on her and her alone in may), maybe a bottom 5 would not be a bad thing, RTVE needs to wake up and revamp the voting system, particularly the price and weight of the televote, a little more than 25k votes in a country as big as Spain is ridiculous.

 

[Journalist]

My favorite was 'Caliente' - I think that's something that only Spain can bring to the Eurovision Song Contest - along with Portugal, for example, because that's their identity. 6 pts for now for this song.

 

[crashworld]

This 80's synth-disco pop is really good! LOVE IT! Giving this a with potential to grow!!!!

 

[jatojo]

Out of the three editions of Benidorm Fest so far, this one is the closest to what Spanish music scene sounds like to in 2024.

Of course you are allowed to like whatever you want and I'm unfair to pick your message out of many others who think similarly in the ESC fanbase, but if Spain sent another G:son song (Angy) or another hypercliché act done only to please the ESC bubble (Jorge González, Sofía Coll) because "that's what Europe likes" there would be no point in holding a big national final.

And if I already think in a similar way for the whole ESC and all entrants, Spain as Big 5 country has an even bigger responsibility to send something truly representative of its musical industry.

I see your point - I think. But things are just slightly more complicated than that.

I wasn't the biggest fan of Blanca Paloma last year. But I liked Tanxugueiras a lot the year before and was disappointed they didn't win. So does that mean that I don't like songs with an ethnic twist - or does it mean I like them?

The answer is that there are many elements in a song, and one element in itself rarely makes a great song. A strong combination, of course, is a song with a certain amount of folklore AND cathiness. I didn't find Blanca Paloma's song cathy enough - it was too much of a "genre song" with the purpose of showing how good a singer she is.

 

[crashworld]

My favorite was 'Caliente' - I think that's something that only Spain can bring to the Eurovision Song Contest - along with Portugal, for example, because that's their identity. 6 pts for now for this song.

I just watched the performance. Jorge IS such a stunner!!! But it's screaming the male version of Chanel in so many ways.
I hope he returns and gets to represent Spain in the future, so the ESC geys can properly thirst over him.

 

[ekzuu]

2 million viewers and the televote winner had 4884 votes lol sort it out rtve

way to go spain... we have less people than you have "watchers" and we kind of have the most expensive televote + multiple rounds
but in our 2023 NF for example 32800 votes were cast in first round of final voting, 31400 in 2nd round.

 

[MopManMoss]

If she could sing I'd give this an but as she can't it's a love the instrumental