Spain SPAIN 2022 - Chanel - SloMo

[escYOUnited]

Llegó la mami
La reina, la dura, una Bugatti
El mundo está loco con este party
Si tengo un problema, no es monetary
Yo vuelvo loquito’ a todos los daddies
Yo siempre primera, nunca secondary
Apenas hago doom, doom
Con mi boom, boom
Y le tengo dando zoom, zoom
Por Miami

Y no se confundan
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una
No hay imitaciones (Na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, morе, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suеlo, lo, lo, lo, lo (Yeah)
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video, watch it slo mo

Te gusta todo lo que tengo
Te endulzo la cara en jugo de mango
Se te dispara cuando la prendo
Hasta el final, yo no me detengo
Take a sip of my cola-la
Un poco salvaje na-na-na
Make it go like pa-pa-pa-pa
Like pa-pa-pa-pa-pa

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazone’
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Haz el dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo​

 

[Mainshow]

Not sure if it was talked here before, but there was a galician telephone company that let people vote for Tanxugueiras in the final for free.
(News article in spanish here)

WTF. If that´s true this would be bland cheating.

 

[BorisBubbles]

Not sure if it was talked here before, but there was a galician telephone company that let people vote for Tanxugueiras in the final for free.
(News article in spanish here)

it yielded them approx 400 votes out of the 180K they got overall.

Looks like Tanxu's vote result was legit after all, but i'd love to see the regional figures all the same.

 

[jatojo]

The rules were very clear since minute 1.

But we don't know the motives of the jurors, do we? Why did one of the jury members put "Terra" in last place?

I decide for myself if a song deserves recognition.

If Luna Ki had been allowed to compete and gone through to Turin, I wouldn't have voted for the song anyway since it's 100 percent autotune. I have my own opinion about what's fair and what's not, and I have no problem with letting this influence my view on the respective songs.

 

[Mainshow]

^^ I don´t think that it was "clear" that the televoting points won´t be awarded in a proportional way whereas each jury member was allowed to give its own points individually? - I think that the Czech Republic chose a better and fairer voting system whilst the juries still got 50% but all three voting components weren´t proportional votes.

I still think that one should be voting for Chanel in May if "SloMo" is one of your favourite entries because she doesn´t deserve any hate/backlash/shitstorm (she has never been part of the problem - it´s not her fault - she just wants to entertain people with her absolutely stunning and mesmerising performance and she deserves to be in Eurovision and be heard/seen by millions of viewers) but this all leaves a bitter taste, I can´t deny it.

I just wish that RTVE will stick to Benidorm and get rid off all their mistakes so that next year´s winner can fully enjoy their victory despite all this mess.

 

[Decayingbooks]

it yielded them approx 400 votes out of the 180K they got overall.

Looks like Tanxu's vote result was legit after all, but i'd love to see the regional figures all the same.

After digging a bit more I found a recent article that says that only 373 sms were from that company.
I should have researched it better before posting in the forum, sorry for that.
(News article in spanish here)

 

[jatojo]

Then fingers crossed for you that you won't end up in a situation similar to Chanel in your own private life where you are being penalized for things that you have no part in.

In a popularity vote, you don't penalize the single contestants. It's simply not possible - we can't give anyone minuses.

But if we can see - objectively -, that the persons we can vote for haven't fulfilled the conditions you would normally expect to be in place, then we can refrain from voting for them although we might have done so under different circumstances.

It's no different from not voting for internally selected songs or not voting for songs with political statements in the lyrics or not voting for songs with too dominant backing vocals or not voting for songs performed by singers who don't live in the country they represent in the contest.

I think it's perfectly okay to have criteria that are not strictly about the song itself.

 

[crashworld]

In a popularity vote, you don't penalize the single contestants. It's simply not possible - we can't give anyone minuses.

But if we can see - objectively -, that the persons we can vote for haven't fulfilled the conditions you would normally expect to be in place, then we can refrain from voting for them although we might have done so under different circumstances.

It's no different from not voting for internally selected songs or not voting for songs with political statements in the lyrics or not voting for songs with too dominant backing vocals or not voting for songs performed by singers who don't live in the country they represent in the contest.

I think it's perfectly okay to have criteria that are not strictly about the song itself.

Sure, you can't downvote Chanel. But any vote that she loses just because people don't want to vote for her due to the voting format saga is incredibly silly and is detrimental to her chance to do well. You are simply suggesting (or encouraging) that one should not vote for Spain due to the broadcaster's "mistake". How is that fair to Chanel?

 

[jatojo]

Sure, you can't downvote Chanel. But any vote that she loses just because people don't want to vote for her due to the voting format saga is incredibly silly and is detrimental to her chance to do well. You are simply suggesting (or encouraging) that one should not vote for Spain due to the broadcaster's "mistake". How is that fair to Chanel?

I'm afraid Eurovision is by no means just a question of individual artists. In recent years, the countries are trying out all sorts of tricks to enhance their chances of doing well at Eurovision: Hiring expensive song writers from abroad, finding non-native singers to perform their songs etc. I don't think this way of doing it is necessarily good for Eurovision in the long run. So I sometimes let this influence my view on the respective songs. I see no problem in that.

Spain, like certain other countries, is using international jurors, and their votes are even given a lot of weight. I think that's wrong. And I don't want to support this method - which I would do by voting for the song which profitted the most from it.

 

[ayzelto]

Wait… how many people voting in Eurovision will know/remember about that issue in May? I don’t think anyone is aware of it outside Spain, only the eurovision fans like us, who are a very small minority. But hey, any point of view should be respected. I honestly prefer to vote for what I like

 

[HayashiM]

In May, 95% of voters won't remember because they'd never known in the first place Cancelling just doesn't work at Eurovision.

 

[Mainshow]

Such things won´t work anyway. I know someone who is an avid fan of Eurovision and Kylie Minogue but in 2015, he stopped listening to Kylie Minogue because he wanted to "boycot" Australia because that country is not European and shouldn´t take part in Eurovision.

People can boycot and not listen to /not vote to anything they want but I just think that life is too short to make oneself suffer because of such behaviour.

If you like Chanel´s song, vote for it.
If you don´t like the voting system in the Spanish NF system, make posts about it and write to RTVE maybe but don´t make Chanel feel bad about it (or miss out on a flawless performance).

 

[Steph777]

The only way to show that Spain's method is wrong is by not voting for Chanel at Eurovision - isn't it? I mean, I'm not talking about expressing anger or taking revenge. But if Spain get a Top 10 place in Turin, the organizers could claim that they are doing the right thing by giving the jury so much influence. And I don't want them to reach that conclusion.

I'm sorry but I find this comment very mean...
Chanel absolutely does not deserve this !
I'm so mad at how she is treated, come on, why just not move on ?
I will vote for her, as much as I can !

 

[Looren]

Yeah okay Chanel doesn't deserve this, I still think Tanxugeiras were robbed but I like Chanel and I enjoy her song, she's also a hell of a good performer honestly

So yeah just 'cause of the hate that she gets am hoping that she'll do well in May

 

[esc87fan]

Kind of reminds me of the Asanda vs. SuRie debate in the UK back in 2018. Everyone was certain that Asanda had the ticket to Lisbon in the bag, but given her staging in the live final she just didn't sell her song well while on the other hand SuRie did and yet people were still whining afterwards that Asanda was robbed

It's obvious to me that Chanel was able to sell her song the best with her performance at Benidorm over Tanxu and Rigoberta

 

[jatojo]

Kind of reminds me of the Asanda vs. SuRie debate in the UK back in 2018. Everyone was certain that Asanda had the ticket to Lisbon in the bag, but given her staging in the live final she just didn't sell her song well while on the other hand SuRie did and yet people were still whining afterwards that Asanda was robbed

It has nothing to do with that. We know that Chanel only got 4 out of 100 public votes, Tanxugueiras got 71.

 

[Ana Raquel]

finding non-native singers to perform their songs

Just a PSA on this part because that's also including immigrants. If they living in a certain country or have a citizenship/permit there, there shouldn't be a problem for them to represent their country. Immigrants are still a part of it after all.

I don't know which situation you are talking about, but since I've seen fans (and actual esc contestants rsrsrsrsr) complaining about that, I'd like to express my point of view. Just be careful, please.

 

[jatojo]

Just a PSA on this part because that's also including immigrants. If they living in a certain country or have a citizenship/permit there, there shouldn't be a problem for them to represent their country. Immigrants are still a part of it after all.

I don't know which situation you are talking about, but since I've seen fans (and actual esc contestants rsrsrsrsr) complaining about that, I'd like to express my point of view. Just be careful, please.

I agree - it was just a quick way of writing it (since I had already mentioned this in another post).

I was thinking about American rappers and the likes.

Also, I don't like it when the same singers can represent different countries over the years (in sports, it would normally be very hard to get permission to change from country to country).

 

[ayzelto]

It has nothing to do with that. We know that Chanel only got 4 out of 100 public votes, Tanxugueiras got 71.

Do you want one advice?
Get over it.

 

[jatojo]

Do you want one advice?
Get over it.

Thank you so much. I love neutral advice. P.S.: You rated 'Terra' 5th.

 

[Ausesken]

The only way to show that Spain's method is wrong is by not voting for Chanel at Eurovision - isn't it? I mean, I'm not talking about expressing anger or taking revenge. But if Spain get a Top 10 place in Turin, the organizers could claim that they are doing the right thing by giving the jury so much influence. And I don't want them to reach that conclusion.

What Europe has to show is whether they like the song or not. If RTVE did it wrong (and obviously a system where 71% of people's votes are not enough to win IS wrong), it's the duty of us Spaniards to complain and demand changes for the next Benidorm Fest, not yours. Also because you'd be punishing a person (Chanel) who perhaps has nothing to do with this mess. So: if you like the song, vote for it. If you don't like it, don't vote for it. It's that simple.
There have been death threatens to the 'suspicious' juror and this drama is everywhere right now: on TV, on Youtube, on forums, etc... I think RTVE has already understood that the voting system must be corrected.