Spain SPAIN 2022 - Chanel - SloMo

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Llegó la mami
La reina, la dura, una Bugatti
El mundo está loco con este party
Si tengo un problema, no es monetary
Yo vuelvo loquito’ a todos los daddies
Yo siempre primera, nunca secondary
Apenas hago doom, doom
Con mi boom, boom
Y le tengo dando zoom, zoom
Por Miami

Y no se confundan
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una
No hay imitaciones (Na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, morе, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suеlo, lo, lo, lo, lo (Yeah)
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video, watch it slo mo

Te gusta todo lo que tengo
Te endulzo la cara en jugo de mango
Se te dispara cuando la prendo
Hasta el final, yo no me detengo
Take a sip of my cola-la
Un poco salvaje na-na-na
Make it go like pa-pa-pa-pa
Like pa-pa-pa-pa-pa

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazone’
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Haz el dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo​

 

[Looren]

I think we can say that Tanxugeiras were robbed

 

[ag89]

There are two potential problems Spain has to think about: if they get a big name at Benidorm this artis will for sure get a huge amount of votes (as someone mentioned) so the juries are not a bad idea to balance it out. And second, Spain is so divided regionally: what if you get a big name from one region getting so many votes while getting so little from the rest? Yes, this is still a televote winner (if we make a possible scenario), but it will not solve the problem and we will still have many people angry, like this year.

 

[rasmuslights]

There are two potential problems Spain has to think about: if they get a big name at Benidorm this artis will for sure get a huge amount of votes (as someone mentioned) so the juries are not a bad idea to balance it out. And second, Spain is so divided regionally: what if you get a big name from one region getting so many votes while getting so little from the rest? Yes, this is still a televote winner (if we make a possible scenario), but it will not solve the problem and we will still have many people angry, like this year.

agree... jury is needed no matter what anybody else says... I think there should just be more members in it and not just five - maybe 20.

 

[rasmuslights]

I understand the current situation creates lots of emotions and feels wrong, but nope, awarding points based on % is still a very bad idea. Any local star having a huge fanbase wins by default almost regardless of what it sends (France 2019 says hi with its lesson learnt). I hope the broadcaster doesn't give in to the current pressure and doesn't go this way.

exactly... sometimes it creates very unfair circumstances...

 

[Ezio]

The voting was as rigged as it was in 2017. In 2017, they declared the jury as the tie-breaker, this time they just used completely different scoring systems to annihilate the front runner's surrounding advantage.

This is not how it's supposed to work, and no one gets to call out fans for being toxic.

 

[Koori]

If they have 5 juries with 60 points each, why not to make 100% of the public votes same 60 points and then distribute it according to % of votes received?

This way Tanxu would get 42, Rigoberta ~11, Chanel ~2. Still huge difference, but that's how thousands of people voted - why 5 people are valued more? This would be at least a bit more fair.

Otherwise according to their math ~52% difference of public votes is only 5 points - this is cringe

 

[Decayingbooks]

agree... jury is needed no matter what anybody else says... I think there should just be more members in it and not just five - maybe 20.

A thing that we do in Portugal is that at the final we have 3 judges from each region voting, simulating the judge vote in eurovision, they could do the same in the final next year and that way Spain could have 5 judges from Catalonia, 5 from Andaluzia, 5 from Canarias, 5 from Galicia and so on, maybe also including 5 judges from an international panel.

 

[ag89]

A thing that we do in Portugal is that at the final we have 3 judges from each region voting, simulating the judge vote in eurovision, they could do the same in the final next year and that way Spain could have 5 judges from Catalonia, 5 from Andaluzia, 5 from Canarias, 5 from Galicia and so on, maybe also including 5 judges from an international panel.

In Spain regional juries won't work, the country is already so divided and such juries may be used as another potential political issue (voting only for the acts from their regions etc) and then we will have another drama.

 

[Decayingbooks]

In Spain regional juries won't work, the country is already so divided and such juries may be used as another potential political issue (voting only for the acts from their regions etc) and then we will have another drama.

Yea, you're right, although it could still happen in a normal judge panel, if the public has the perception that a regional judge favored another singer because they where born in the same region it would only make things worse

 

[Steph777]

I think we can say that Tanxugeiras were robbed

I'm not totally agree because the majority of their votes certainly come from their region
The prestation don't deserved a landside like this

I'm more sad for Rigoberta actually

But Chanel is a killer on stage and don't deserved the hate !
In the end of the day, she's a very very good choice

 

[Mainshow]

Wow. "Terra" was indeed robbed - even more than we just thought.
It doesn´t matter whether most televotes came from Galicia or not. - They had an incredibly enormously huge lead and it didn´t equal into points. I still strongly believe that Chanel will do a better job at ESC but it feels so wrong that 5 questionable jury members had so much power. This national final was rigged as hell. They should have scrapped the whole televoting if they desperately didn´t want to have "Terra" as a winner.

IF an act has a huge fanbase and wins the televoting point, let them win? It makes me wonder how people can prefer a voting system in which dubious jury members can overthrow the democratic will of the people that easily, tbh.

 

[cegs5]

Chanel’s SloMo was my favourite from the begining, but I can’t look away this injustice. Tanxugueiras were robbed by a ridiculous voting system, basically two jurors were enough to tank them and giving them no chance to overcome the situation even with a landslide televoting.
This a very similar situation than in 2017, just without demoscopic jury back then and only three jurors, which means RTVE is not willing to correct mistakes.

Benidorm Fest has been a success in tv audience, if they really want to keep and develop the format, they need to build up prestige, with the current system they won’t get it, people will rightly feel insulted. Funny enough the slongan of the event is “ The festival that YOU want” … really? Not.

 

[HayashiM]

Wow. "Terra" was indeed robbed - even more than we just thought.
It doesn´t matter whether most televotes came from Galicia or not. - They had an incredibly enormously huge lead and it didn´t equal into points. I still strongly believe that Chanel will do a better job at ESC but it feels so wrong that 5 questionable jury members had so much power. This national final was rigged as hell. They should have scrapped the whole televoting if they desperately didn´t want to have "Terra" as a winner.

IF an act has a huge fanbase and wins the televoting point, let them win? It makes me wonder how people can prefer a voting system in which dubious jury members can overthrow the democratic will of the people that easily, tbh.

Nope, speaking in general, don't let them win "just because" of that. I am fed up with local superstars who don't give a damn about Eurovision, half ass their way into a NF, then expect to automatically win as they have the biggest fanbase and then get mad when it doesn't happen (I am talking in general here, absolutely not about Tanxugueiras).

And once again, "democratic will of people" is best discovered by looking at the demoscopics, which (when done well) operates on the scientific base of a representative sample - in comparison, the televote is about as good as an online survey, with all of its issues.

And the demoscopics say a completely different story here with everyone being really close in the [10;15]% interval. The 70% televote is a pure fanbase/regional advantage, and I absolutely don't see why it should translate in a shit tonne of points.

 

[Mainshow]

Apparently, some people did care enough to pick up their phones. That´s the point of a televoting. What´s the point of letting a demoscopic jury decide when a huge sum of them don´t even care about Eurovision or will never pick up their phone to cast a vote?
That´s the point of a televoting... can still come up with the televoting from 2016: One phone call per one device.

Why should dubious jury members (4 jury members from Benidorm are non-musicians) make such a huge decision and overthrow the massive demoscopic and televoting winner that easily? - just because "well-established acts with a huge fanbase" can´t win? just because people being heavily backed up by a region can´t win?" - What´s the point of organising a televoting if you really don´t want the televoters to have a fair say in the whole voting process?
Just scrap it alltogether and turn Eurovision into an event in which all #3 or #4 places from each country in Europe compete in because some head of delegations from Iceland, Moldova or Malta as well as some stage directors chose them.

I strongly disagree with such views and I wholeheartly believe that the people - the televoters and/or the demoscopic jury - should decide on the entry which should represent THEIR OWN country - not has beens, international head of delegations, wiwiblogg members or former Eurovision participants from different countries - especially if they have more than a 50% say in this.

Just scrap the whole national final and let that jury decide internally then - so that fans can´t get rightfully upset.

 

[A-lister]

RTVE could have just made it easier for themselves and simply use a similar 50/50 system similar to Melodifestivalen or Eurovision

 

[Sammy]

It‘s interesting to see how different the percentages are in the televote and the demoscopic jury.

 

[HayashiM]

Apparently, some people did care enough to pick up their phones. That´s the point of a televoting. What´s the point of letting a demoscopic jury decide when a huge sum of them don´t even care about Eurovision or will never pick up their phone to cast a vote?

The point of the demoscopic jury deciding is that it is the best representation of what you are basing your argument on - the actual democratic will of the people. Conditioning any vote by paying perhaps shows "care" from those who do it, but it is by its very nature less democratic than the demoscopics because of the payment barrier.
Anyway, I absolutely don't say the demoscopics should be the only ones deciding, I just say you shouldn't discount them as subsidiary when they are introduced.

That´s the point of a televoting... can still come up with the televoting from 2016: One phone call per one device.

That wasn't the case here though?

Why should dubious jury members (4 jury members from Benidorm are non-musicians)

Agreed, 100%. Any jurymember anywhere close ESC should be a professional musician, otherwise their opinion is about as good as is a dentists opinion about viruses - perhaps more insightful than a mere mortal's, but still quite not what is necessary.
Plus having only 5 jurymembers is absolutely ridiculous, be it in a NF or ESC.

make such a huge decision and overthrow the massive demoscopic and televoting winner that easily?

Tanxugueiras aren't a massive demoscopic winner. They took that particular vote by 0.71%, not reaching even 15% of the total.

- just because "well-established acts with a huge fanbase" can´t win? just because people being heavily backed up by a region can´t win?" - What´s the point of organising a televoting if you really don´t want the televoters to have a fair say in the whole voting process?

Of course they could have won. It's not like the jury took Chanel and said "she wins, bye" (like they did with Ester Peoni).

Just scrap it alltogether and turn Eurovision into an event in which all #3 or #4 places from each country in Europe compete in because some head of delegations from Iceland, Moldova or Malta as well as some stage directors chose them.

I strongly disagree with such views and I wholeheartly believe that the people - the televoters and/or the demoscopic jury - should decide on the entry which should represent THEIR OWN country - not has beens, international head of delegations, wiwiblogg members or former Eurovision participants from different countries - especially if they have more than a 50% say in this.

I think we agree on quite a few points - the jury was overpowered in this case, and being a head of delegation or a wiwiblogg member is not a sufficient musical credential to be a judge anywhere.

Just scrap the whole national final and let that jury decide internally then - so that fans can´t get rightfully upset.

All I am asking for from my perspective is making the playing field more level. Let's not overpower the juries nor fanbases so everyone can at least hope for a victory when being good enough

(btw, as I have already expressed over the years, my opinions about juries in ESC are very different )

 

[ayzelto]

This situation is tiring. Everybody knew the rules beforehand. The juries voted whatever they wanted to vote, and imo we cannot compare that to what happened in 2017. In every single national final there are entries that win thanks to the juries, others thanks to the televoting, and so on. Tanxugueiras smashed with the televote (also because Benidorm Fest had 50% share in Galicia, compared to the 21% in the whole country), but Chanel was also top 3 in the three categories, otherwise it would have been impossible for her to win.
I agree with the fact that the system must change for the upcoming years, but I think all this has to stop here. Chanel will go to Eurovision (which I am proud of, as she is great) and she has the right to enjoy the full experience. Honestly I cannot believe how toxic people have been in the past days not only about TVE but also about her. For me it’s time to move on.

 

[theditz83]

This is fun, and comes alive thanks to Chanel's accomplished live performance and choreography. She has international star quality for sure. I just can't help but feel like the song is the weak part of the whole package sadly.

But definitely this should finally get out of the bottom depths of the final scoreboard.

 

[kamc]

I hope Chanel gets a proper stylist for Turin. That cheap and tacky looking bodysuit just adds to the dated feel of the whole package and screams J.Lo circa 2002. A slicker, classic look would really help elevate the performance and make it appear more modern.