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Spain SPAIN 2022 - Chanel - SloMo
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crashworld
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The only good thing is that Spanish fans can't self-sabotage the entry voting wise no matter how unhappy they are with the entry. Unless they are living overseas (which would account for a small percentage I presume and won't matter that much since they can't vote Chanel down).
I hope Chanel and her team will forge forward and bring an amazing performance. Let's not succumb to the trolls. I bet she would come out stronger and bring her slayage to the ESC night.
Having said that, upgrading this to a "10", just because she deserves the love.
I hope Chanel and her team will forge forward and bring an amazing performance. Let's not succumb to the trolls. I bet she would come out stronger and bring her slayage to the ESC night.
Having said that, upgrading this to a "10", just because she deserves the love.
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I don't get the Spanish fans outrage, yes RTVE once again shot themselves in the foot with an idiotic voting system, but the blame shouldn't be put on Chanel.
Also, as a fan of both Ay mama and Terra, let's be honest, the performances were amateur at best.
Also, as a fan of both Ay mama and Terra, let's be honest, the performances were amateur at best.
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This "passion" will last 3 days. In May the fans of Terra will ask Tanxu who?
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Not completely accurate, it is much more complex and endings do vary: on jedE, ona spavA.Trči. Č is pronounced as if you would like to say Chili. We'd write Čili.
In Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, it's the same.
Actually, all verbs in our languages said in 3rd He/She/It end with and I letter. It's not a Spanish thing
E.g.
He loves - On volI
He hates - On mrzI
She runs - Ona trčI
She thinks - Ona mislI
Baby (it) hugs - Dijete GrlI
And so on
It's not the same song, but the base melodic line is the same, SloMo took away sth and added new elements.
I posted earlier a software plagiarism analysis results, it's 33% same melodics.
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I agree. Me watching the performances and listening to those 2 songs for the first time, I don't get the appeal and they are somewhat lacking. Chanel's performance and song are very instant. I can definitely see the casual ESC viewers latching on it.
They are very smart to do a dance break. Because it won't take away her vocals and she can still show her charisma and dancing ability. I feel more "wow" by her performance than Eleni/Tamta/Elena combined.
Don't get me wrong, the song is nothing special, and I do think that there is a high possibility that it may land on the RHS of the results table because it's Spain. But if the other countries are bringing in sub-par songs/performances, I can see Spain sneaking in and doing their best results in years.
I'm really ashamed of some people in the fandom, Eurovision is the best thing that could happen to a singer, it's beyond one's dreams, and Y'ALL TURNING IT TO A NIGHTMARE FOR SOMEONE WHO DISPLAYED TALENT LIKE NO ONE ELSE DID BEFORE
GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE EVERYBODY
GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE EVERYBODY
I liked at least 4 or 5 songs more than the winner, including Varry Brava. The show was good entertainment. Chanel is a great dancer but I don’t see a winner or a high placing even with a major re vamp of the song. It is what it is, not good not bad.
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I feel like the Spanish national final this year has reminded me of the perils of getting invested in songs from national finals. 
Demoscopic jury:
1. Tanxugueiras: 14,59%
2. Chanel: 13,88%
3. Rigoberta Bandini: 13,52%
4. Gonzalo Hermida: 12,62%
5. Rayden: 12,17%
6. Varry Brava: 11,39%
7. Blanca Paloma: 10,92%
8. Xeinn: 10,92%
The jury:
1. Tanxugueiras: 14,59%
2. Chanel: 13,88%
3. Rigoberta Bandini: 13,52%
4. Gonzalo Hermida: 12,62%
5. Rayden: 12,17%
6. Varry Brava: 11,39%
7. Blanca Paloma: 10,92%
8. Xeinn: 10,92%
The jury:
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Ok, this is a lesson for Benidorm Fest to do percentage into number of points, you know what I mean. If you have 100 pts to give and you have an act with 70% of votes, you get 70 pts etc. So this way they will escape such dramas.
I wonder how many televotes each act received from different regions of Spain, Galicia was on fire this year with very high ratings so I assume a significant number of televotes came from this region for Terra.
I wonder how many televotes each act received from different regions of Spain, Galicia was on fire this year with very high ratings so I assume a significant number of televotes came from this region for Terra.
With these results in front of us, the thought is that the semifinals served to understand where the wind was blowing (for televoting and demoscopic jury) and the expert jury made sure to keep the Tanxu away from Chanel.
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I understand the current situation creates lots of emotions and feels wrong, but nope, awarding points based on % is still a very bad idea. Any local star having a huge fanbase wins by default almost regardless of what it sends (France 2019 says hi with its lesson learnt). I hope the broadcaster doesn't give in to the current pressure and doesn't go this way.
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Chanel won and should go to ESC, that is very clear, but I wondered about coming years, they will probably introduce new rules after all this drama.
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The actual way to improve anything: give the televote in general more weight (1/3? 1/2? 3/4?), increase the number of juries in the panel, or get rid of the juries altogether. But awarding % televote points AND having juries is absolutely pointless.
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My point would've been the same even with the songs being reversed. New rules are fine, but if there is one way to hell, it's awarding % televote points (ok, there's one model that's even worse - Romania 2019).
The whole vote was by the jury. It all seems random, but the Tanxu penalized when they obtained four times the percentage of Rigoberta, while Chanel 4%.
The semifinals were just an excuse to vote for Chanel to win by the expert jury.
by the jury. It all seems random, but the Tanxu penalized when they obtained four times the percentage of Rigoberta, while Chanel 4%.The semifinals were just an excuse to vote for Chanel to win by the expert jury.
This looks awful tbh and the situation is imo completely unacceptable. I knew that Terra would have a big televoting score but didn't expect that huge difference. They need to at least change the way the televotes and the votes of the demoscopic jury are given in order to represent the actual points cause this is really unfair. At least now we know that the juries didn't exactly tank Terra, at least it isn't as bad or corrupted as some had predicted.
However, as much as I want them to be transparent, I'm not sure if this was the right time to release the detailed results when they are that bad, I feel like it will add more fuel to the fire and things just now started to calm down. They should have either released them right after the contest or since the situation when really badly, not release them at all
However, as much as I want them to be transparent, I'm not sure if this was the right time to release the detailed results when they are that bad, I feel like it will add more fuel to the fire and things just now started to calm down. They should have either released them right after the contest or since the situation when really badly, not release them at all