Spain SPAIN 2022 - Chanel - SloMo

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Llegó la mami
La reina, la dura, una Bugatti
El mundo está loco con este party
Si tengo un problema, no es monetary
Yo vuelvo loquito’ a todos los daddies
Yo siempre primera, nunca secondary
Apenas hago doom, doom
Con mi boom, boom
Y le tengo dando zoom, zoom
Por Miami

Y no se confundan
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una
No hay imitaciones (Na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, morе, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suеlo, lo, lo, lo, lo (Yeah)
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video, watch it slo mo

Te gusta todo lo que tengo
Te endulzo la cara en jugo de mango
Se te dispara cuando la prendo
Hasta el final, yo no me detengo
Take a sip of my cola-la
Un poco salvaje na-na-na
Make it go like pa-pa-pa-pa
Like pa-pa-pa-pa-pa

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazone’
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Haz el dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo​

 

[jatojo]

What Europe has to show is whether they like the song or not. If RTVE did it wrong (and obviously a system where 71% of people's votes are not enough to win IS wrong), it's the duty of us Spaniards to complain and demand changes for the next Benidorm Fest, not yours. Also because you'd be punishing a person (Chanel) who perhaps has nothing to do with this mess. So: if you like the song, vote for it. If you don't like it, don't vote for it. It's that simple.
There have been death threatens to the 'suspicious' juror and this drama is everywhere right now: on TV, on Youtube, on forums, etc... I think RTVE has already understood that the voting system must be corrected.

I can see that some read my original comment as a kind of call to boycot - well, it wasn't at all. As written elsewhere, I'm just regarding it as a criterion among others when assessing a song. My criteria are not always about the song itself, but can also be about certain things surrounding the song.

There is nothing controversial about this approach, I should think.

 

[Ausesken]

I can see that some read my original comment as a kind of call to boycot - well, it wasn't at all. As written elsewhere, I'm just regarding it as a criterion among others when assessing a song. My criteria are not always about the song itself, but can also be about certain things surrounding the song.

There is nothing controversial about this approach, I should think.

Extra-musical reasons can influence your voting, but usually it's something unconscious: the singer is ugly/beautiful, the language is sexy/doesn't sound good, the singer has proven to be polite/is very rude, etc. However, I do think it's controversial thinking: I'm intentionally NOT voting for this song for reasons that have nothing to do with the artist that will be affected by my decision. Like not voting for a Russian entry just for political reasons.

 

[ayzelto]

Thank you so much. I love neutral advice. P.S.: You rated 'Terra' 5th.

And SloMo 4th. She was not even in my top 3 before the show. Just get over it

 

[Ana Raquel]

I agree - it was just a quick way of writing it (since I had already mentioned this in another post).

I was thinking about American rappers and the likes.

Also, I don't like it when the same singers can represent different countries over the years (in sports, it would normally be very hard to get permission to change from country to country).

Hmmmmm I guess it depends? If the artist have double citizenship or one of the countries is a microstate like San Marino I don't mind. Other than that... I guess I can understand why you would dislike it.

 

[jatojo]

Extra-musical reasons can influence your voting, but usually it's something unconscious: the singer is ugly/beautiful, the language is sexy/doesn't sound good, the singer has proven to be polite/is very rude, etc. However, I do think it's controversial thinking: I'm intentionally NOT voting for this song for reasons that have nothing to do with the artist that will be affected by my decision. Like not voting for a Russian entry just for political reasons.

Well, it goes both ways, doesn't it? Personally, I'm pretty sure Jamala got a good deal of extra sympathy votes in 2016 because of the political situation.

I do think that my view on Russia could influence my assessment of their entries - but if their songs are extraordinary, I become a fan anyway. Like with "Uno" in 2020.

When it comes to the rules of Eurovision and the national finals, I'm pretty skeptical about how things have developed in recent years. I think the rules are too loose in general - I'm against allowing internal selections and the use of international juries for instance. In special cases where this causes what seems to be an unfair result, it might influence my voting.

It's not different from, say, not supporting a football club because it is owned by a non-democratic state in the Middle East.

 

[njdevils94]

https://twitter.com/poloniatv3/status/1489348306845290501

 

[Rasmus0714]

Still not sure what the fuzz is about.
Performance: seen it a million times, big nothing, forgettable, basic and boring.
Song: probably rejected demo from D-list US singer or Melfest.
Styling: dollar store clearance rack children dance costume, beyond dreadful and horrendous, the stylist must be fired ASAP.

 

[Jonkonfui]

The whole vote was by the jury. It all seems random, but the Tanxu penalized when they obtained four times the percentage of Rigoberta, while Chanel 4%.

The semifinals were just an excuse to vote for Chanel to win by the expert jury.

That is not true. Problem here is that Spanish Eurofans are always changing their opinions to have an excuse to complain. For years they have complained about how bad the Spanish stagings used to be. They claimed that the bad results of Spanish songs were due to bad stagings. I think the jury went for the whole package (as Eurofans have been asking for years) but alas Spanish Eurofans need to complain and it seems this year they dont care about staging and they need corky mainstream 'message' or ethnicity and cultural "myassshit"... Spanish eurofans and Spanish in general are a bunch of hysterical shouting people who dont know their ass for their nose.

 

[Jonkonfui]

Still not sure what the fuzz is about.
Performance: seen it a million times, big nothing, forgettable, basic and boring.
Song: probably rejected demo from D-list US singer or Melfest.
Styling: dollar store clearance rack children dance costume, beyond dreadful and horrendous, the stylist must be fired ASAP.

Ok it is your opinion and it is respectable. But from an objective point of view you cannot say the performance IS boring. It might bore you because you might prefer other type of quieter activities but it IS not boring at all.

 

[Jonkonfui]

Apparently, some people did care enough to pick up their phones. That´s the point of a televoting. What´s the point of letting a demoscopic jury decide when a huge sum of them don´t even care about Eurovision or will never pick up their phone to cast a vote?
That´s the point of a televoting... can still come up with the televoting from 2016: One phone call per one device.

Why should dubious jury members (4 jury members from Benidorm are non-musicians) make such a huge decision and overthrow the massive demoscopic and televoting winner that easily? - just because "well-established acts with a huge fanbase" can´t win? just because people being heavily backed up by a region can´t win?" - What´s the point of organising a televoting if you really don´t want the televoters to have a fair say in the whole voting process?
Just scrap it alltogether and turn Eurovision into an event in which all #3 or #4 places from each country in Europe compete in because some head of delegations from Iceland, Moldova or Malta as well as some stage directors chose them.

I strongly disagree with such views and I wholeheartly believe that the people - the televoters and/or the demoscopic jury - should decide on the entry which should represent THEIR OWN country - not has beens, international head of delegations, wiwiblogg members or former Eurovision participants from different countries - especially if they have more than a 50% say in this.

Just scrap the whole national final and let that jury decide internally then - so that fans can´t get rightfully upset.

I dont want Spanish people to choose anything. It is bad enough that they are given the right to vote in the political elections every 4 years. Spanish eurovoters need to be contained for their own good. They are a danger to themselves. ☺

 

[Rasmus0714]

Ok it is your opinion and it is respectable. But from an objective point of view you cannot say the performance IS boring. It might bore you because you might prefer other type of quieter activities but it IS not boring at all.

Watch it again still find the performance boring. Even though performances in benidorm 2022 are either messy or boring, the song has zero redeeming quality and drags the performance into oblivion.

 

[Jonkonfui]

Changing the vote system or changing whatever will never change Spanish eurodrama that comes from years and years of unaccepeted defeat. Problem is Spanish Eurofans are not able to admit the songs they chose in past years were in the shitty side. They have a perception problem, for them Tu Canción was Euphoria. I think this might change in the future and not because Chanel might get a decent result but bc now in Spain we are nationally starting to debate mental health so it is quite possible Spanish Eurofans start being aware of their derangement and look for professional help (if there is any Spanish person here you cannot get angry by my comment because I ended my post not with one but two gay rainbows)

 

[Jonkonfui]

Watch it again still find the performance boring. Even though performances in benidorm 2022 are either messy or boring, the song has zero redeeming quality and drags the performance into oblivion.

See? It says a lot that you are open to learn from your wiser and elder and handsomer and hotter Forum colleagues (i.e me). Now you say YOU FIND the performance whatever. That is cool, it is your opinion. I respect your opinion. I am Spanish but I respect you and your opinion.
Zero redeeming quality I dont really know what that is but it sounds deep but I respect that as well.

 

[Rasmus0714]

See? It says a lot that you are open to learn from your wiser and elder and handsomer and hotter Forum colleagues (i.e me). Now you say YOU FIND the performance whatever. That is cool, it is your opinion. I respect your opinion. I am Spanish but I respect you and your opinion.
Zero redeeming quality I dont really know what that is but it sounds deep but I respect that as well.

Zero redeeming quality means the song is beyond terrible and its writers need to be hot glued on an over ear headset and play this song on repeat day and night for the rest of their lives.

 

[Jonkonfui]

Zero redeeming quality means the song is beyond terrible and its writers need to be hot glued on an over ear headset and play this song on repeat day and night for the rest of their lives.

I understand your frustration. But as this year Eurovision winner I have to be gracious and feel sympathy for your feelings: i understand you, i've been down down so long but this year we rise like a phoenix. Dont worry next year your country will find its own Chanel and bring you the glory you deserve.

 

[Ausesken]

It's not different from, say, not supporting a football club because it is owned by a non-democratic state in the Middle East.

Touché But the difference is that people can’t use their phones to vote for their favourite team and change the result of a football match, so in this case our opinion doesn’t really matter.

And precisely the result of bringing politics into Eurovision is very clear with Jamala’s win: you get one of the worst winners ever (this is my opinion ofc). I haven’t heard that song anywhere again.

 

[Mainshow]

Touché But the difference is that people can’t use their phones to vote for their favourite team and change the result of a football match, so in this case our opinion doesn’t really matter.

And precisely the result of bringing politics into Eurovision is very clear with Jamala’s win: you get one of the worst winners ever (this is my opinion ofc). I haven’t heard that song anywhere again.

I will not tolerate such comments towards one of the best Eurovision winners ever!
I even used "1944" in an oral exam dedicated to "Teaching English via authentic material" and got a 1.0 (best mark possible) last term. It´s one of the best songs to teach culture in an English foreign language classroom:
- Mugham style of singing which has been proclaimed as a "Masterpiece of the Oral Heritage of Humanity" by UNESCO
- the chorus includes lines of a Tartar folk song (one can also try to teach pupils to value languages of minorities)
- balaban/duduk being played by an Armenian musician
- relatable topics (transportation, refugees, war) which can be discussed in upper intermediate/advanced classes
- -> it´s basically an example of sharing cultural diversity and it includes different aspects of culture(s)

It´s really a great example to foster transcultural learning as well as dealing with history and the universal concept of wars, migration, injustice and it can open up diverse and global perspectives and increase a student´s level of empathy.

Of course, you can still dislike it because music is subjective but it´s really a song which fits the curriculum perfectly and it is really important to shift the focus away from Western/eurocentric views and it can also give Turkish/Azerbaijani students the opportunity to make use of their native languages to translate the Crimean Tartar part (I was told by two Azerbaijni friends that they were able to understand the chorus but I´m not 100% sure since I don´t speak any of those languages).

Anyway, "1944" might not be for everyone but I think it´s one of the best and most important winners of all times!

 

[Ausesken]

I will not tolerate such comments towards one of the best Eurovision winners ever!
I even used "1944" in an oral exam dedicated to "Teaching English via authentic material" and got a 1.0 (best mark possible) last term. It´s one of the best songs to teach culture in an English foreign language classroom:
- Mugham style of singing which has been proclaimed as a "Masterpiece of the Oral Heritage of Humanity" by UNESCO
- the chorus includes lines of a Tartar folk song (one can also try to teach pupils to value languages of minorities)
- balaban/duduk being played by an Armenian musician
- relatable topics (transportation, refugees, war) which can be discussed in upper intermediate/advances classes
- -> it´s basically an example of sharing cultural diversity and it includes different aspects of culture(s)

It´s really a great example to foster transcultural learning as well as dealing with history and the universal concept of wars, migration, injustice and it can open up diverse and global perspectives and increase a student´s level of empathy.

Of course, you can still dislike it because music is subjective but it´s really a song which fits the curriculum perfectly and it is really important to shift the focus away from Western/eurocentric views and it can also give Turkish/Azerbaijani students the opportunity to make use of their native languages to translate the Crimean Tartar part (I was told by two Azerbaijni friends that they were able to understand the chorus but I´m not 100% sure since I don´t speak any of those languages).

Anyway, "1944" might not be for everyone but I think it´s one of the best and most important winners of all times!

I won't deny its value for other uses, but still I don't like it. It's boring, I don't like her voice, and it's obvious it won for political reasons. As disgusting as the moment in which Jamala made MARUV take a political stance against Russia knowing she was popular in this country and made her visibly uncomfortable. Then it was clear Jamala's intentions regarding Eurovision.

 

[Mainshow]

I won't deny its value for other uses, but still I don't like it. It's boring, I don't like her voice, and it's obvious it won for political reasons. As disgusting as the moment in which Jamala made MARUV take a political stance against Russia knowing she was popular in this country and made her visibly uncomfortable. Then it was clear Jamala's intentions regarding Eurovision.

I agree with the second part but I don´t think that it just won because of politics - I have voted for Russia AND Ukraine that year because I thought that both entries were absolutely amazing. Russia was a well-produced and catchy bop but Jamala had the best performance for my liking (emotional, I had goosebumps) etc. - Actually, I think that juries placing Jamala last was more of a political statement than seeing her as a winner which was more luck than everything since she didn´t win the televoting or the jury vote that year.

Personally, I don´t mind songs which are "slightly political" - apart from the song title, there are no direct references to any current political issues or even historic ones - it´s as political as other winning entries such as 1982 or 1990 - which are somehow political as well and one could argue that they won Eurovision because of their message(s) (wanting to unite Europe - which is a political aim as well).

 

[Jonkonfui]

I will not tolerate such comments towards one of the best Eurovision winners ever!
I even used "1944" in an oral exam dedicated to "Teaching English via authentic material" and got a 1.0 (best mark possible) last term. It´s one of the best songs to teach culture in an English foreign language classroom:
- Mugham style of singing which has been proclaimed as a "Masterpiece of the Oral Heritage of Humanity" by UNESCO
- the chorus includes lines of a Tartar folk song (one can also try to teach pupils to value languages of minorities)
- balaban/duduk being played by an Armenian musician
- relatable topics (transportation, refugees, war) which can be discussed in upper intermediate/advances classes
- -> it´s basically an example of sharing cultural diversity and it includes different aspects of culture(s)

It´s really a great example to foster transcultural learning as well as dealing with history and the universal concept of wars, migration, injustice and it can open up diverse and global perspectives and increase a student´s level of empathy.

Of course, you can still dislike it because music is subjective but it´s really a song which fits the curriculum perfectly and it is really important to shift the focus away from Western/eurocentric views and it can also give Turkish/Azerbaijani students the opportunity to make use of their native languages to translate the Crimean Tartar part (I was told by two Azerbaijni friends that they were able to understand the chorus but I´m not 100% sure since I don´t speak any of those languages).

Anyway, "1944" might not be for everyone but I think it´s one of the best and most important winners of all times!

Didn't it cross your mind that they give you the best marks just bc they wanted the speech to be over? That is density elevated to a different dimension...(just kidding i am sure your speech was great ).
I dont like the song neither.