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Llegó la mami
La reina, la dura, una Bugatti
El mundo está loco con este party
Si tengo un problema, no es monetary
Yo vuelvo loquito’ a todos los daddies
Yo siempre primera, nunca secondary
Apenas hago doom, doom
Con mi boom, boom
Y le tengo dando zoom, zoom
Por Miami

Y no se confundan
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una
No hay imitaciones (Na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, morе, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suеlo, lo, lo, lo, lo (Yeah)
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video, watch it slo mo

Te gusta todo lo que tengo
Te endulzo la cara en jugo de mango
Se te dispara cuando la prendo
Hasta el final, yo no me detengo
Take a sip of my cola-la
Un poco salvaje na-na-na
Make it go like pa-pa-pa-pa
Like pa-pa-pa-pa-pa

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazone’
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Haz el dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo​
 
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A breast is a body part, a penis is a body part. What exactly is the difference? What does legality has to do with anything?
Can you please just tell me what the message of the song is instead of sharing articles on whatever?

In a men dominated world penis is NOT just a body part. And public display of it would be sexual harassment.
It's basically appreciation of mothers and women who raised us despite their paths being filled with discrimination and misogyny.
 

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But please please tell me why is it anthemic and what exactly is the song about?
And please if the song has a really feminist message why does it says thanks to mums for having broth in their fridges for their kids to feed properly as if assuming that the good mother is the one who cooks and cares for their children?

From a musical standpoint I think it's very anthemic. The song rises at just the right moments and goes big when it does with a memorable melody and catchy (if slightly irritating on repeat listens) hook. The lyrics aren't of that much concern to me. I just appreciate what Ay Mama is doing musically speaking.
 

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In a men dominated world penis is NOT just a body part. And public display of it would be sexual harassment.
It's basically appreciation of mothers and women who raised us despite their paths being filled with discrimination and misogyny.
And where exactly does it say in the song about 'their paths being filled with discrimination..'?
 

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From a musical standpoint I think it's very anthemic. The song rises at just the right moments and goes big when it does with a memorable melody and catchy (if slightly irritating on repeat listens) hook. The lyrics aren't of that much concern to me. I just appreciate what Ay Mama is doing musically speaking.
Ok ok...
 

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Rigoberta's quirks were also accepted though? Her messy and confusing performance is what's being debated. The song became the big fan favourite for a reason. People liked the interesting composition and what she was offering with it. But as you said, we didn't have the full experience yet. I hope people haven't changed their mind suddenly cause "oh no, there's a giant boob!". Performances either make or break songs. The same thing has happened to countless faves over the years. Will the song live up to the greatness of its studio version when performed live? It's always a question on everyone's lips. I think the song still has a lot of potential and I believe Rigoberta should be able to get her message across exactly the way she sees fit, and if this is it then so be it. I hope this is a vision she has though that can grow and grow because as it is now, I think the song would underperform at Eurovision, which would be a terrible shame. It's still my favourite song left but only by a whisker. I love kitschy, campy performances so something has really gone awry here to make me feel so in doubt.
The performance however reflects the song really well it even elevates it. As seen from @Jonkonfui who despite being Spanish can't comprehend the artistry behind her lyrics that are not so conventional and some might even think infantile. But that's why the lullaby-ish anthemic feel to it reminds us of when we were kids being breastfed and taken care of by our moms really works with the child-like aspects of the performance (the simplistic syllable repetition, circular dance, the shirt over your face and the straightforward lyricism that reminds me of the poems a 7 year old would write etc.). It gives the song even more warmth then it had before and it completes it, because who wouldn't want to be a child in mother's embrace forever, especially when as a grown person you realize the blood and pain (physical, mental, societal) she shed and had to go through. This is a well rounded entry, not song or performance but a fully realized act.
 

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In a men dominated world penis is NOT just a body part. And public display of it would be sexual harassment.
It's basically appreciation of mothers and women who raised us despite their paths being filled with discrimination and misogyny.
I mean a penis being nothing else than a penis is because centuries of cultural and religious tradition. Is it good or bad? No it is just what it is.
Tits being seen as a sexual body part is bc of centuries of cultural and religious tradition. Is it good or bad? No it is just what it is.
Why do women when caught naked instinctively cover their pussy and tits? Bc it is a cultural tradition. You want to see in that mysoginy and whatever?
 

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The performance however reflects the song really well it even elevates it. As seen from @Jonkonfui who despite being Spanish can't comprehend the artistry behind her lyrics that are not so conventional and some might even think infantile. But that's why the lullaby-ish anthemic feel to it reminds us of when we were kids being breastfed and taken care of by our moms really works with the child-like aspects of the performance (the simplistic syllable repetition, circular dance, the shirt over your face and the straightforward lyricism that reminds me of the poems a 7 year old would write etc.). It gives the song even more warmth then it had before and it completes it, because who wouldn't want to be a child in mother's embrace forever, especially when as a grown person you realize the blood and pain (physical, mental, societal) she shed and had to go through. This is a well rounded entry, not song or performance but a fully realized act.
Wow man pass me a bit of whatever you are smoking. But ok i am not that deep, mystical and philosophical. I leave you with your lullaby-ish anthemic song that remind us of our childhood and my ass...
Shakespeare said it simple and clear: words, words, words.
And now if you excuse i am gonna wank to get some sleep.
 

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Wow man pass me a bit of whatever you are smoking. But ok i am not that deep, mystical and philosophical. I leave you with your lullaby-ish anthemic song that remind us of our childhood and my ass...
Shakespeare said it simple and clear: words, words, words.
And now if you excuse i am gonna wank to get some sleep.
It's not philosophical though! Maybe it's just not your genre or style of interpretation, and that's fine. I am sorry if you felt like I was calling you out for being a misogynyst, I don't know that for sure. But sometimes we should note the things we found offensive.
Wish you a happy wank and sweet dreams! :D
 

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Whatever mate but be aware we have made History you and I... It is the first time ever that a Spanish eurofan criticizes a Spanish entry while a (no idea where is your flag from) European eurofan defends it.
 

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Despite the performances being objectively worse than yesterday, I did actually enjoy this semi a lot more. Overall though the festival was kinda meh. Both the sound and the camera work could have been much better for a country like Spain. Also the voting system needs to change if they keep the festival next year. Over 1 euro for one vote, that is going to count only in 25% of the result is too much and it's no wonder televotes were that few. Either raise the power of televoting (imo this is what they should do cause their jury, just like the ESC ones, isn't made out of music professionals) or lower the price.

Ay mama is a song that I sincerely dislike for musical reasons (but I had read the lyrics translation once and they were nice and thoughtful but not enough to make me like the song), however I feel like some comments about the performance that people make are particularly harsh. Until the middle of the song the performance was nice, could have been better for sure but it wasn't bad. Then the ending was weird, even a bit uncomfortable for me but it wasn't that horrible. I wouldn't want it to win cause there are way better songs and performances, but I'm not 100% convinced that it would do that bad in ESC.

Calle de la llorería is one of my favourites, but I knew that the performance would be underwhelming compared to the studio. Songs like this and Occidentali's Karma aren't for a live performance, in order to get them. The performance wasn't bad at all tho, it was from the better ones in all of the festival and Rayden himself was really great (minus sometimes that he was out of breath, but it is a pretty demanding song) but I don't think the staging really add anything to it. It is out of competition imo but it would have potential at ESC.

Eco is a song that really grew on me over the last two weeks, I had it stuck in my head for days. The problem with the song is that it is purely a radio track and you can't fo too much with the staging. The performance was nice, I didn't expect a lot more tbh, they could have more dancers but that's it and vocally he did ok considering that he had to sing the whole song in falsetto.

Can't really judge Quién lo diría since there wasn't a performance but the song is nice but won't do particularly well in ESC if it gets selected.

Honourable mention to Sigues en mi mente which remains one of my favourites despite the bad performance and horrible outfits. The song reminds me of Fyr og Flamme songsxlove but the performance was nowhere near theirs.
 

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At least one thing is clear for me now since "ay mama" seems to win tomorrow: I can FULLY concentrate on Norway's show tomorrow to stan "Hammer of thor"!

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I did not point to you or anyone else, it's funny how everyone jumped off as if I was pointing fingers. There are multiple layers to hate and fear. And you demonstrated one by putting a female performer into the box by saying "this is not a good way to present it". It really gives the impression of entitlement. Let Rigoberta live her artistic truth. There is a lot of growth ahead of us as a society.

Pople also said that yesterday's performance of Terra was a mess, but you didn't come here yesterday to say they are mysoginists for hating the Galician girls.
Also, if you were educated enough to understand the context, you could have said they are nationalists and fascists even (irony).

No you didn't react yesterday, because you are not a worried feminist, but a fanwanker of Rigoberta who can't accept nor allow other people to dislike what you like.

Get yourself together.

You can't be insulting people calling them out names simply because they dislike the staging of your idol you worship uncritically.

If people who said Rigoberta was a mess are mysoginists, then what are those who said the same for Rayden? Grumpy lesbians? Or those who said the same about Gonzalo or Xeinn? Homophobes, aaaa?

And no, there's not much growth for the society here, but some maturing and education required for you only.
 

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“Ay mama” could be easily seen as a joke entry. The performance is strange, the prop…

if you’re spanish you get the message but if you’re watching it someplace else they will simply find it odd.

I rather have Chanel at least she is eurovision ready. Tanxungueiras or Rayden would be the next picks to eurovision. At least to me.
 

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Just getting around to watching the performances now and jesus...Spain had (HAD) such a great NF but it feels like every single one of these songs has been let down by the live performance. Everything just feels so messy and unprofessional. I really hope that the Spanish delegation can clean up whichever act is chosen before Eurovision because I don't think any of these performances would be worthy of the stages in Turin in their current form.

'Ay Mama' is by far the worst offender. The song has actually rather grown on me over the past weeks and I was impressed with Rigoberta's live voice, but the stage needs to be completely redrawn from scratch IMO. Less is more. I actually think that the issue was the backing singers/dancers rather than the giant tit onscreen (although that was also quite bizarre). The choreography was very 'middle school drama performance' and looked far too sloppy - Unique and Tanxugueiras actually had the same problem here. I'm not surprised that Chanel has suddenly become a favourite to win since her performance was probably the only one out of the 14 which could be considered nearly-polished. Xeinn was pretty good too although he didn't really have much choreo anyway.
 

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Just for the record, even when it is clear that Rigoberta will probably go to Turin, my faves were:

Tanxugueiras - Terra
Rayden - Calle De La Llorería
Blanca Paloma - Secreto de Agua
Xeinn - Eco

Most of these four had good vocals, but simply a not impressive / partly messy staging. Maybe Blanca had the best package, but I missed something in her performance, it didn't reach me completely. Xeinn's vocals were good, but it lacked in staging.
Well, it seems that Spain will end up in my bottom list again when they send Rigoberta or Chanel. :( Maybe next year, Spain?
 

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“Ay mama” could be easily seen as a joke entry. The performance is strange, the prop…

if you’re spanish you get the message but if you’re watching it someplace else they will simply find it odd.

I rather have Chanel at least she is eurovision ready. Tanxungueiras or Rayden would be the next picks to eurovision. At least to me.
I am Spanish and I dont get the message... Well i get it but I find it stupid. It is the kind of message weak minds applaud because it sounds feministic or lgtbi supporting.
It is funny that those people who ejaculate with the song and nod like crazy when she sings "why are they so scared of tits" are the same onew who write f***k on social media.
 

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Rayden performance reminded me of that Portuguese entry where the singers had signs as if on strike. I dont remember the title.
 

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I was thinking people overreact when reading the thoughts about the live performance of Ay Mama. Boy was I wrong. What did I just watch? Even if it would be a parody it would be messy and weird. They cannot be serious with these outfits, background dancers and the choreography? This needs to have a lot of polishing in order to not be a complete cringe-moment (those that don't score well anymore). Maybe they aimed to go for a similar approach like Daði Freyr? But its not working when they take themselves so serious (or don't they? I'm confused). I really like subversive humour and I also sorta like the song but everything about this just seems so messy and tasteless.
 

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Pople also said that yesterday's performance of Terra was a mess, but you didn't come here yesterday to say they are mysoginists for hating the Galician girls.
Also, if you were educated enough to understand the context, you could have said they are nationalists and fascists even (irony).

No you didn't react yesterday, because you are not a worried feminist, but a fanwanker of Rigoberta who can't accept nor allow other people to dislike what you like.

Get yourself together.

You can't be insulting people calling them out names simply because they dislike the staging of your idol you worship uncritically.

If people who said Rigoberta was a mess are mysoginists, then what are those who said the same for Rayden? Grumpy lesbians? Or those who said the same about Gonzalo or Xeinn? Homophobes, aaaa?

And no, there's not much growth for the society here, but some maturing and education required for you only.
Tanxgueriras faced the same misogyny, yes, my original post pointed that it overlaps with all female performers (including as stated in my post, Chanel).

It is not about disliking, it's about the context and the very specific wording shown towards female performers in NFs and ESC in general. The expectations, the putting-in-a-box, the know-it-all-fan. Even male gaze.

Once again, I was NOT insulting anyone, the reaction to my post has turned to be a more elaborate take on the entry with very careful wording (members using word musically carefully now). Saying "mess" just doesn't cut it anymore. If you really feel I insulted someone you should report me, don't you think?
Uncritically?! You don't seem to show any constructive criticism yourself.

For someone calling up on other's education level you really do put it plainly and with a dangerous perspective as one other member did. Misogyny is greatly overloooked in such instances of micro aggression mainly to acts (as demosntrated here) of gangbanging on a whistleblower, sending low blows that diminish human dignity, decoying the topic when it was clear and laughing at the matter.

I as a mature person am going through a process of education. It just feels like you are not willing to understand what I am saying, but are rather looking into how to insult me for my poor education, sorting myself together, and calling me immature.
 

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It is scary to witness so much shit and only speeches about everything. People consider themselves justice warriors just because they are active gay, feminist or whatever is in fashion on twitter.
People were offended in here bc on instagram the word tits was erased on the translation of Rigoberta's song but not even one of the offended thought of cancelling their account on instagram. This is what we have today a lot of speeches but no real commitment or sacrifice for whatever cause one decides to support.
 
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