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escYOUnited

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Llegó la mami
La reina, la dura, una Bugatti
El mundo está loco con este party
Si tengo un problema, no es monetary
Yo vuelvo loquito’ a todos los daddies
Yo siempre primera, nunca secondary
Apenas hago doom, doom
Con mi boom, boom
Y le tengo dando zoom, zoom
Por Miami

Y no se confundan
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una
No hay imitaciones (Na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, morе, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suеlo, lo, lo, lo, lo (Yeah)
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video, watch it slo mo

Te gusta todo lo que tengo
Te endulzo la cara en jugo de mango
Se te dispara cuando la prendo
Hasta el final, yo no me detengo
Take a sip of my cola-la
Un poco salvaje na-na-na
Make it go like pa-pa-pa-pa
Like pa-pa-pa-pa-pa

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazone’
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)
Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Do this dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Y no se confundan (Y no se confundan)
Señora’ y señore’
Yo siempre ‘toy ready (Yo siempre estoy ready)
Pa’ romper cadera’, romper corazones
Solo existe una (Solo existe una)
No hay imitaciones (Na, na, na)
Y si aún no me crees, pues me toca mostrárselo (Oye)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo, mo, mo, mo, mo
Booty hypnotic
Make you want more, more, more, more, more
Voy a bajarlo hasta el suelo, lo, lo, lo, lo
If you wish, you could do this dembow (Haz el dembow)
Drives you loco (Yeah)

Take a video
Watch it slo mo​
 
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It's just hit me what exactly was missing from the Ay Mama performance and that's Mr. Blobby.

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I don't think there's too much of a high chance my country will be sending him this year, and cause us Brits love Benidorm so much.. I'll tell you what, we'll let you borrow him for the Ay Mama performance. Imagine Mr. Blobby stage invading for the final bit with the boob globe whilst shouting "BLOBBY BLOBBY BLOBBY". Now that's the kind of chaos that would lift the song to its most full potential, and it would help to get me back aboard the Ay Mama hype train. Europe deserves this moment.
 

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If the televote counts merely 25% of the total voting, that's what you get... They tried to copypaste Sanremo voting system, but actually in Sanremo televote has 40% of the total, with the juries having 30% each. So Sanremo is a 60-40, Benidorm a 75-25 (and 50% of that 75 is actually in the hands of only 5 people)... Not really the same thing. That's why I said Rigoberta has it in the bag.
I wouldn’t be that sure about Rigoberta. Chanel was a jury favourite as well and did well on a bigger televoting universe. Today was less competitive semifinal, Rigoberta had it easier to be the jury favourite… She might be backed by the three local juries, but the remaining two could probably place Chanel over her.
 

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Not that I am shocked, but the misogyny among predominantly homosexual male ESC fans is frightening at this time and age. While I did love Chanel's performance it really deepens the fans' perspective and expectations of female performers as a skilled dancer (whose live vocals are immediately questioned), diva and what not. While on the other side Rigoberta's performance is, as shown above, described as "messy". Her entry could be compared to those of Laka and Sebastian Tellier (now Eurovision classics) but they never really received this kind of criticism. This is exactly why Ay mama is important because it challenges those expectations while being playful. God forbid the inflatable boob, right?
 

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Not that I am shocked, but the misogyny among predominantly homosexual male ESC fans is frightening at this time and age. While I did love Chanel's performance it really deepens the fans' perspective and expectations of female performers as a skilled dancer (whose live vocals are immediately questioned), diva and what not. While on the other side Rigoberta's performance is, as shown above, described as "messy". Her entry could be compared to those of Laka and Sebastian Tellier (now Eurovision classics) but they never really received this kind of criticism. This is exactly why Ay mama is important because it challenges those expectations while being playful. God forbid the inflatable boob, right?
A philosopher amongst us... I am sorry but I did not understand shit about the misogyny of ESC fans that deepens whatever it was... Just tell me being gay shall I get offended by your message?
 

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Not that I am shocked, but the misogyny among predominantly homosexual male ESC fans is frightening at this time and age. While I did love Chanel's performance it really deepens the fans' perspective and expectations of female performers as a skilled dancer (whose live vocals are immediately questioned), diva and what not. While on the other side Rigoberta's performance is, as shown above, described as "messy". Her entry could be compared to those of Laka and Sebastian Tellier (now Eurovision classics) but they never really received this kind of criticism. This is exactly why Ay mama is important because it challenges those expectations while being playful. God forbid the inflatable boob, right?

Sorry but I really prefer Tanxugueiras, or Blanca Paloma, or Rayden, or even Xeinn and even Chanel to Rigoberta's song, without being a misogynyst, but only based on the song itself, the staging and how it would rank in a possible Eurovision lineup. Remember these three words "EuroVISION" "SONG" "CONTEST": the visuals, the quality of the song and how much I like the song compared to the others are the things I'm evaluating when it comes to Eurovision. So if I don't like the song and I found the staging a total mess, am I a misogynyst or am I just expressing what I think about the whole package? Because that counts in the end: the reception of the song and the whole package, way too messy for my taste.

Ps: I'm not even an homosexual male, but if I was you I would cancel that statement because some are and I think it's really rude to call them "misogynysts" when they are only expressing their opinion...
 
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Not that I am shocked, but the misogyny among predominantly homosexual male ESC fans is frightening at this time and age. While I did love Chanel's performance it really deepens the fans' perspective and expectations of female performers as a skilled dancer (whose live vocals are immediately questioned), diva and what not. While on the other side Rigoberta's performance is, as shown above, described as "messy". Her entry could be compared to those of Laka and Sebastian Tellier (now Eurovision classics) but they never really received this kind of criticism. This is exactly why Ay mama is important because it challenges those expectations while being playful. God forbid the inflatable boob, right?
I like the song in its studio version and I think I support its message the way it is intended.
But from my perspective, this is not a good way to present it, and I think it's frightening if people get accused of misogyny simply for expressing such opinion.
 
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I like the song in its studio version and I think I support its message the way it is intended.
But from my perspective, this is not a good way to present it, and I think it's frightening if people get accused of misogyny simply for expressing such opinion.
I did not point to you or anyone else, it's funny how everyone jumped off as if I was pointing fingers. There are multiple layers to hate and fear. And you demonstrated one by putting a female performer into the box by saying "this is not a good way to present it". It really gives the impression of entitlement. Let Rigoberta live her artistic truth. There is a lot of growth ahead of us as a society.
 

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Rigoberta has it in the bag

But it's probably a mistake and a very risky choice (good song but the staging is weird)

Spain, the best act is Chanel, hands down !
 

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I am as straight as it gets, I like the song in its studio version and I support its message.
But from my perspective, this is not a good way to present it, and I think it's frightening if people get accused of misogyny simply for expressing such opinion.
What exactly is the message? What exactly do you support? She said that the song is about motherhood. What is there to support about motherhood?
Rigoberta's song is fruit of this times we live in which people lack clarity of mind and they stick to whatever sounds politically correct. Rigoberta sings "why are you afraid of tits" and most think this sentence is brilliant when in fact who the hell is afraid of tits? Or why focus on tits to defend a feminist message? Imagine that I being gay sing "why are you afraid of my huge cock (the huge part is for self publicity)" and i pretend that everybody should see my song as an argument pro gay rights and whoever says something against it is homophobic... It would make no sense.
 

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Not that I am shocked, but the misogyny among predominantly homosexual male ESC fans is frightening at this time and age. While I did love Chanel's performance it really deepens the fans' perspective and expectations of female performers as a skilled dancer (whose live vocals are immediately questioned), diva and what not. While on the other side Rigoberta's performance is, as shown above, described as "messy". Her entry could be compared to those of Laka and Sebastian Tellier (now Eurovision classics) but they never really received this kind of criticism. This is exactly why Ay mama is important because it challenges those expectations while being playful. God forbid the inflatable boob, right?

I feel as though if it was a guy presenting the same kind of performance as the Ay Mama one it would be roasted the same, perhaps even harder. Only very recently have we seen entries with a certain novelty or quirkiness to them be accepted with quite wide open arms by the Eurovision community. If you look at The Roop or Daði Freyr, whether you liked the humour or not (I personally wasn't into either artist's quirks), what both had in common is that they brought to the table incredibly well performed songs with very thought out stagings. Ay Mama is batting in that same sort of ballpark and I actually think the song is good (was my pre show fave by far). Reminds me a lot actually of Sebastian Tellier (who I loved at the time and remember being quite alone tbh). Unfortunately though I don't think the song comes across as well as it should with such a performance as it has now. It's got nothing to do with the giant inflatable boob. I know what the song is about and that's great. At the moment it's being undersold though. The song is anthemic but I think the performance weakens it.
 

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I feel as though if it was a guy presenting the same kind of performance as the Ay Mama one it would be roasted the same, perhaps even harder. Only very recently have we seen entries with a certain novelty or quirkiness to them be accepted with quite wide open arms by the Eurovision community. If you look at The Roop or Daði Freyr, whether you liked the humour or not (I personally wasn't into either artist's quirks), what both had in common is that they brought to the table incredibly well performed songs with very thought out stagings. Ay Mama is batting in that same sort of ballpark and I actually think the song is good (was my pre show fave by far). Reminds me a lot actually of Sebastian Tellier (who I loved at the time and remember being quite alone tbh). Unfortunately though I don't think the song comes across as well as it should with such a performance as it has now. It's got nothing to do with the giant inflatable boob. I know what the song is about and that's great. At the moment it's being undersold though. The song is anthemic but I think the performance weakens it.
1. A cis-male singing Ay Mama type of song would be wrong on so many levels as he does not have the female experience.
2. EXACTLY the quirks of The Roop and Daði Freyr were accepted with enthusiasm.
3. The audio is not the full experience, I am sorry it did not meet with your expectations. It's very unapologetic and raw.
 

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I feel as though if it was a guy presenting the same kind of performance as the Ay Mama one it would be roasted the same, perhaps even harder. Only very recently have we seen entries with a certain novelty or quirkiness to them be accepted with quite wide open arms by the Eurovision community. If you look at The Roop or Daði Freyr, whether you liked the humour or not (I personally wasn't into either artist's quirks), what both had in common is that they brought to the table incredibly well performed songs with very thought out stagings. Ay Mama is batting in that same sort of ballpark and I actually think the song is good (was my pre show fave by far). Reminds me a lot actually of Sebastian Tellier (who I loved at the time and remember being quite alone tbh). Unfortunately though I don't think the song comes across as well as it should with such a performance as it has now. It's got nothing to do with the giant inflatable boob. I know what the song is about and that's great. At the moment it's being undersold though. The song is anthemic but I think the performance weakens it.
But please please tell me why is it anthemic and what exactly is the song about?
And please if the song has a really feminist message why does it says thanks to mums for having broth in their fridges for their kids to feed properly as if assuming that the good mother is the one who cooks and cares for their children?
 

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What exactly is the message? What exactly do you support? She said that the song is about motherhood. What is there to support about motherhood?
Rigoberta's song is fruit of this times we live in which people lack clarity of mind and they stick to whatever sounds politically correct. Rigoberta sings "why are you afraid of tits" and most think this sentence is brilliant when in fact who the hell is afraid of tits? Or why focus on tits to defend a feminist message? Imagine that I being gay sing "why are you afraid of my huge cock (the huge part is for self publicity)" and i pretend that everybody should see my song as an argument pro gay rights and whoever says something against it is homophobic... It would make no sense.
Maybe it's not yours to get it, as it seems like you really don't want to. Who's afraid of tits? Today breastfeeding is controversial even in some western societies. And please don't compare boob to a dick... sounds like you got a boob problem.
 

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Maybe it's not yours to get it, as it seems like you really don't want to. Who's afraid of tits? Today breastfeeding is controversial even in some western societies. And please don't compare boob to a dick... sounds like you got a boob problem.
Please explain it to me instead of assuming I have any kind of problem. So the song is about breastfeeding?
 

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Why exactly cant i compare boobs to cocks? Are you afraid of cocks? Sounds like you got a cock problem.
 

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Please explain it to me instead of assuming I have any kind of problem. So the song is about breastfeeding?
The assumption came to my mind quite easily as you compared a breast to a penis, as if public display of it results in the same legal reprecaussions. I have a busy day tomorrow, but I am willing to share some articles if you are open to broadening your knowledge on the representation and sexualization of women. I really do appreciate the effort!
 

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The assumption came to my mind quite easily as you compared a breast to a penis, as if public display of it results in the same legal reprecaussions. I have a busy day tomorrow, but I am willing to share some articles if you are open to broadening your knowledge on the representation and sexualization of women. I really do appreciate the effort!
A breast is a body part, a penis is a body part. What exactly is the difference? What does legality has to do with anything?
Can you please just tell me what the message of the song is instead of sharing articles on whatever?
 

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1. A cis-male singing Ay Mama type of song would be wrong on so many levels as he does not have the female experience.
2. EXACTLY the quirks of The Roop and Daði Freyr were accepted with enthusiasm.
3. The audio is not the full experience, I am sorry it did not meet with your expectations. It's very unapologetic and raw.

Rigoberta's quirks were also accepted though? Her messy and confusing performance is what's being debated. The song became the big fan favourite for a reason. People liked the interesting composition and what she was offering with it. But as you said, we didn't have the full experience yet. I hope people haven't changed their mind suddenly cause "oh no, there's a giant boob!". Performances either make or break songs. The same thing has happened to countless faves over the years. Will the song live up to the greatness of its studio version when performed live? It's always a question on everyone's lips. I think the song still has a lot of potential and I believe Rigoberta should be able to get her message across exactly the way she sees fit, and if this is it then so be it. I hope this is a vision she has though that can grow and grow because as it is now, I think the song would underperform at Eurovision, which would be a terrible shame. It's still my favourite song left but only by a whisker. I love kitschy, campy performances so something has really gone awry here to make me feel so in doubt.
 

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Another one with Rigoberta's message... Can anybody please tell me what is the message of the song? If possible quoting where exactly in the lyrics is this supposed message reflected?.
I think that most make up a message just because she says tits in her song.
 
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