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RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

GOSH and who are you? My Messiah, to save me from the evil!

Yes.

I apologized to you for that you mention now form a year ago..and after that I didn't offend you again...I know that and that is the most important.. ;)

I don't recall any apology. I just remember you messaging me saying you didn't want to argue. I said cool and that I didn't want to argue either but then I explained to you why I was offended by your comments which used mental health as an insult to which I got no reply from you. Instead I was treated to random videos of folk singers, as if my message never got through to you. I've not once heard the magic word from you, "sorry". You just don't want to understand how others might feel.
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

The problem is that you take it all to such a low level. It feels like i'm back in school again with people's looks being insulted.

Exactly.
Have you ever asked his age?
I bet he is a teenager.
I dont have behavior expectations from a teenager,he is just a child.
He will grow up some time in the future.
If we all answer to him in every single thing he says,
do we speak like we are older from him ?
Just some thoughts.
My apologies.
 

RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Exactly.
Have you ever asked his age?
I bet he is a teenager.
I dont have behavior expectations from a teenager,he is just a child.
He will grow up some time in the future.
If we all answer to him in every single thing he says,
do we speak like we are older from him ?
Just some thoughts.
My apologies.

I don't know Mrm's age but I would hope than he is a very young gentlemen. Adults wouldn't resort to insulting someones looks.

The other funny thing is that he says that he is aware that he is a bad person, yet he plays the role of the villain so hilariously bad. Calling for the moderators every 5 minutes when someone calls him "darling" or makes a joke. He's not a very convincing rebel.
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ RainyWoods

This is my last message for you!! Unfortunately, I didn't want that to end like this, but it simply has, after this..

I'm 24 years old, and I call moderators because I've read rules of the forum, I found that as an insult to me as user and in rules they say users can't be insulted in a any way..If I insult anybody, I insult participants of ESC in the forum and not other users, and if I write smth inappropriate I will get a reaction from moderators, you are not the one, so in the future when you comment on my writing on any ESC participant I will ignore, just like I will ignore all your comments to me.......THAT'S ALL FROM ME!
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ RainyWoods

This is my last message for you!! Unfortunately, I didn't want that to end like this, but it simply has, after this..

I'm 24 years old, and I call moderators because I've read rules of the forum, I found that as an insult to me as user and in rules they say users can't be insulted in a any way..If I insult anybody, I insult participants of ESC in the forum and not other users, and if I write smth inappropriate I will get a reaction from moderators, you are not the one, so in the future when you comment on my writing on any ESC participant I will ignore, just like I will ignore all your comments to me.......THAT'S ALL FROM ME!

Ok dear, that's alright. I'm sorry that I offended you with my comment. It would be nice to know which part offended you though.

You seem to be a person with strong feelings. Someone who's very easily offended. You got upset when Odalis called you "darling" and when I referred to you as possibly being Valentina Monetta in disguise. Obviously your feelings were hurt so much in those instances. It's strange that you are so easily offended and you openly speak out about it here, declaring how you are contacting the moderators YET you are unable to see how being a self declared "bad" person isn't a great thing. How some of the things you have said could have offended others.. but oh well, never mind. You've been extremely entertaining. I'm sure i'm not just speaking for myself when I say thank you, thank you for the laughs. I look forward to the moderator inspecting my messages. I would like to ask all ESCUNITED members to pray for Odalis and I. We will surely need it.. and don't worry Mrm, I haven't reported any of your messages even though I easily could. I doubt that's "all" from you but if it really is, farewell and thanks for the memories.
 

Musicosity

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Well isn't it better for Spain to win, and not thta Monetta insect La Cucaracha Monetta :lol: :lol:, then I can visit Madrid for the ESC! :D
Mrm, good for you to consider the forum rules. Maybe you should consider the rules of law as well. Publicly calling someone an insect and a cockroach in a forum like this is an insult punishable by law in most civilized countries. I am surprised the mods let you walk away with such behavior. Valentina likely doesn't know about you, or has better things to do than to take you seriously. But if she did, it would not only be you in her attorney's crosshairs but Matt, the mods and the forum as well. They are playing a risky game here to win nothing but a stream of rants, insults and derogatory remarks.
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

OMFG, is this serious??? Am I dreaming?? :? :eek:

Then You tube should be closed a decade ago already, for billions of comments 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 X times worse than what i have written! :? Insect in a term of boring approach, she returns 3 years in a row at the same festival, but to whom i really explain this?? :?

And the funniest things are double standards in here, i'm 101 % sue that if i wrote all this about isis Gree or last year Aremenian entarnts who were bashed here like crazy all the time, nobody will pay a single cent, this musicosity user won't even notice that, but only for Valentina Monetta we can't say anything bad here..I'm really sick of that, and that was the only reason i began this discussion, these DOUBLE STANDARDS are utterly horrible.. :(
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

I don't have double standards. I'm an adult so by now i've learnt it's not right to insult the appearance of others. Even as a child I didn't judge. If I caught you doing it elsewhere I would have brought it up.. and yes, youtube is a hell hole. This place isn't. You're the only one i've noticed being really disrespectful here.
 

RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Anybody who doesn't like my comments have two options:

1. To ignore them
2. To report me and try to get me out of here with a ban of moderators

;) :)

Or option 3. Question your comments

Which is what you really don't seem to like.
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Yes, even if I decide to call moderators for these three smileys, that is my right, who are you to stop me..and to write ironically comments about that..you are actually somebody ho used to have everything in his childhood and life it seems and now want that in the international forum as well, so if I dislike singer you ADORE and criticize him/her you will do this to me..well, you made a mistake, this time.. ;)
 

RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Yes, even if I decide to call moderators for these three smileys, that is my right, who are you to stop me..and to write ironically comments about that..you are actually somebody ho used to have everything in his childhood and life it seems and now want that in the international forum as well, so if I dislike singer you ADORE and criticize him/her you will do this to me..well, you made a mistake, this time.. ;)

It is indeed your right Mrm. I was just warning my friend to be careful.

I didn't have everything I wanted as a child. As a matter of fact, far from it. I was however brought up to have manners and respect. I simply dislike it when people cruelly insult others.

Anything else you'd like to tell me about my childhood?
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

I'd like to see Senit again, I ADORED her entry, it was soo nice, simple, magical.. :) I was glad I can vote for San Marino that year! :)
 

Matt

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Let's all hold hands, sit around a camp fire and sing kumbaya.

This forum feels strongly about respecting each and every member which is why we do not allow personal attacks. We are getting criticized by some folks for that (for the Record: It's not a Freedom of speech issue). The purpose for that rule is so everyone can share their thoughts and feelings about basically anything without having to worry about being bullied, attacked or scared away. Once someone starts attacking members directly, it is our responsibility to intervene and it's your responsibility to report the post instead of responding in the same manner.

We do allow critical responses and comments towards a song and/or artists as they basically signed up for it. If someone wants to criticize somebody's weight, it's incredibly immature in my book but not against our board rules so we will not interfere. That being said, we do believe there are times when people can cross the line by creating a hostile environment just by being overwhelmingly negative and that's where we may step in as well. In many instances our decisions are judgement calls and we'll do the best we can to be fair and objective.

Anyways in a nutshell I am asking for cordial behavior from everybody and if we feel somebody is attacked personally or is intentionally creating an environment of negativity we will reserve the right to move posts. Finally, any provocation towards members is NOT okay!
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ Matt

User "Odalis" provokes me all the time, I said to her in a very nice way to stop calling me darling (in the Russian thread) but she repeats that all the time, and writes even that word in purpose 4-5 times per a comment, which go to me... :( She also told me: "Shut the **** up", and that was the only user I reported, cause I thought that was too much, especially because I didn't write any single bad word to her before..
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

We received your reported post and reviewed it accordingly. However, we do not discuss any Moderator related items in public.
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ matt

Of course you don't..I just said that because I wanted she to stop already.. :? :( I hoped she would stop If I say that..

And they call me troll and it's obvious that I'm not the one, and they called me many times actually..I didn't destroy any page in this site like trolls do, I didn't spam anywhere and repeat my comments..
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

I'm willing to hold hands. The thing I love most about this forum compared to others is that it's such a nice, friendly environment. We all have fun and a laugh.

And Mrm, Odalis is lovely. You have to see that your comments were provoking. As Matt says, you are free to make comments about appearance even if it's immature but then we are free to comment back and question you. It works both ways. There is a way to avoid such instances though and it only takes a little thought before posting. The only person left upset from this is you.. but I don't want you to be upset. We should all get on!
 
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