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Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Why do you think Valentina has mental health issues?

I dunno when I said that? he/she is obviously lying! :?

MAYBE, just MAYBE I'm not sure cause I don't remember, maybe that was earlier, few months, or even a year ago, that I said: "She looks somehow crazy, especially while she smiles totally without a reason, and in some interviews and while performing facebook song"...and I don't see what's wrong with that, i don't see problem it that, why should somebody here be insulted if I (they consider me troll) think that, that's my opinion which I express ina topoc about her..
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

You can smile whenever you want, Valentina. It only makes us happy. ;)
 

tuorem

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Wow, I saw that there were quite a few new pages in this thread, so I assumed that people were discussing the allocation draw...
I was so disappointed to read a big nothing.

Seems like Valentina will have to compete really hard in this tough semi-final. Hopefully, she won't be screwed with the final draw.
 

i anixi

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Such is the way of the world. Here we have a cheerful thread full of complaints, users' reports and wild accusations. And then there comes someone who would have preferred to discuss... a draw :shock:
It does take all sorts :?
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

GOOOSH it was so obvious, I shouldn't take any kind of conversation with a creature above...that was the big mistake, but hey ho..now I know everything.. ;)

Bigger problem is that that "person" doesn't get any warning for hmmm..let's say minimum strange behaviour... :? That's not my problem, however..

You think It's acceptable to call a fellow forum member a "creature"?
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

NO, but after insults towards me, and no reaction from moderators, don't have anything left except to behave the same way he/she/it does.. ;)

Plus comments of that user are really way to strange.. :? And he/she/it repeats some words, I can even say i do not understand these comments..

Now I'm tired of this...please..leave me alone..and wasting time on users like that is totally hilarious.. :?
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Such is the way of the world. Here we have a cheerful thread full of complaints, users' reports and wild accusations. And then there comes someone who would have preferred to discuss... a draw :shock:
It does take all sorts :?

I wasn't expecting anyone to carry out a detailed analysis about San Marino being drawn in the second part of the semi-final.
However, I guess that, for the time being, asking for your opinion about it is much more relevant than posting messages that should have been exchanged privately from user to user.

We don't know anything about the entry yet, I don't think it is strange to talk about a draw tbh.
 

i anixi

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Yes, much more relevant, I agree. And no, it's not strange at all. Some people even find it quite entertaining! I just wasn't being as serious as you :p
 

tuorem

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Yes, much more relevant, I agree. And no, it's not strange at all. Some people even find it quite entertaining! I just wasn't being as serious as you :p

Ok, then I did not get the ironic aspect of your post. Sorry for that. ;)


Was there an announcement for the song presentation btw?
 

i anixi

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

I don't think so... Somebody would have posted something about it if there was, surely.
 

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The presentation of her song has been postponed until February. I don't know the exact date, though.
 

RainyWoods

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

I dunno when I said that? he/she is obviously lying! :?

MAYBE, just MAYBE I'm not sure cause I don't remember, maybe that was earlier, few months, or even a year ago, that I said: "She looks somehow crazy, especially while she smiles totally without a reason, and in some interviews and while performing facebook song"...and I don't see what's wrong with that, i don't see problem it that, why should somebody here be insulted if I (they consider me troll) think that, that's my opinion which I express ina topoc about her..

Mrm, you wrote posts about Valentina's mental health a while back which were eventually deleted by moderators. You are free here to say however you feel about Valentina and her entry. You always take things a step too far though, I and others here think the same of some of your posts. It's almost like you are trying to bait us all into getting angry and then when that plan doesn't work and instead you get humorous responses, you rather ironically call for a moderator to come and assist you. If you play with fire you generally do get burnt.

I light heartily suggested that perhaps you were Valentina trolling us all to which you first reacted positively to with humour. Then a couple of posts later, you are talking about her supposed arm hair and how she needs to shave it, calling her a creature. Who talks like that about people? I wouldn't talk about anyone like that. It doesn't matter what thread it is in, that's a personal attack on someones appearance and it's unpleasant.
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

And he/she/it repeats some words, I can even say i do not understand these comments..

Take english classes, darling :lol:
You're well known for not being able to understand what you don't want to understand, you're quite adequate in other threads but here you're blind, deaf and numb.
Yes, you said Valentina was a psycho, a sick person, it was last year.
Maybe you'll have a decency not to write a single word here anymore but dreams oh dreams :rolleyes:
So long, darling! It's useless to talk to you since you don't understand anything, all you're saying is blah blah blah.
Ignore.
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ RainyWoods

Yes the first time it was funny, but you continued and I find that very bad, i'm NOT a troll in this site and I'm not Valentina so that was really bad to me... Sorry but this time you got too far.. :( And I reported only user "Odalis" because he/she/it used bad words on me, if you did you would be reported to, and doesn't matter if reaction comes, I know I reported and they should decide what to do..but you didn't you stopped there, and I hope in future you won't call me like that, in that way you make me a troll in here which I'm NOT AT ALL, just say my opinion on her, and you and anybody else can't stop me..you are her fans I'm a her hater, I'm OK with what you are, but you are not OK with what I am, that is the problem, cause this is FORUM for DISCUSSION and sharing opinions, not a fan blog of Valentina Monetta!! :?
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ RainyWoods

And why you want to change me, I write that she doesn't shave her arms and why do you care for that, why do you care what I say? I don't care if the whole site will ignore me..I write what I feel and want...and if I write smth inappropriate moderation will react, I don't know why you bother what I write...I don't stop you to write THE MOST BEAUTIFUL things about her, why you would stop me to criticize her, really don't understand, who are you to change me? Maybe I'm bad person or smth, but that is not your business..really... :?
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

Mrm I care because sometimes the things you say make it an unpleasant environment. It doesn't matter what thread we are in, I would have questioned the way you are speaking in any other thread as well. Would you say these things to Valentina's face? Would you say these things to anyones face as a matter of fact? I hope not. As mentioned a million times before, you are free to share your opinions about artists and their songs here as much as you like. The problem is that you take it all to such a low level. It feels like i'm back in school again with people's looks being insulted.

Just have a think for a moment why people may suspect that you are a troll. It's because you make unnecessary digs. You could try to put things across more eloquently perhaps if you don't want people to think that you are baiting them. You're lucky here that people have a sense of humour and rather than flair up, respond to your digs at Valentina with humour. For some reason you seem unable to take our humour.

If me calling you Valentina REALLY offended you then please accept my humble apology.. but know that some of your comments now and in the past have offended me also. I'm not trying to change your opinions, i'm trying to change the way you share them.. I'm trying to get you to understand it's just not right to make fun of someones looks. No one is trying to stop you from voicing your opinion. Just perhaps think to voice that opinion in a way that is polite, well thought out and most importantly, shows respect to others.
 

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@ RainyWoods

Don't platy such a dirty games cause I know that I didn't offend you!! If yes show me posts, and don;t show me posts where I offend valentian Monetta cause YOU ARE NOT Valentina Monetta FOR GOD'S SAKE!! :?

I have already told you, I'm bad person and deal with it, report my comments if you think they are not allowed in this forum, and end of story! :?

Gosh how far this went with some ppl, here, they are offended when Valentina (one of the participants of ESC) is ofended by somene online?? I really don';t get it!

I loved Isis Gee so much, and ppl all around internet were offending her all the time, and what should I do?? :? :D hahaha now this is really funny and childish! :D
 

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@ RainyWoods
And I reported only user "Odalis" because he/she/it used bad words on me

Just to make it clear to you as you seemed to have missed the female gender symbol under her name. Odalis is a girl so out of politeness you should refer to her as "she" rather than rudely putting he/she/it. I'd hazard a guess that you know full well her gender but are using this as a way to attack her.
 

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

@ RainyWoods

Don't platy such a dirty games cause I know that I didn't offend you!! If yes show me posts, and don;t show me posts where I offend valentian Monetta cause YOU ARE NOT Valentina Monetta FOR GOD'S SAKE!! :?

I have already told you, I'm bad person and deal with it, report my comments if you think they are not allowed in this forum, and end of story! :?

Gosh how far this went with some ppl, here, they are offended when Valentina (one of the participants of ESC) is ofended by somene online?? I really don';t get it!

I loved Isis Gee so much, and ppl all around internet were offending her all the time, and what should I do?? :? :D hahaha now this is really funny and childish! :D

I'm not playing any games Mrm. I have a feeling you are though.. but you are not winning. You can't take the fact we all have a sense of humour here and can rise above your comments. You can't take the fact we find humour in you as well.

I sent you a message last year when I was offended by your comments (which I never got a response to) and I also commented in this thread last year about your comments (everyones comments from the last argument got deleted). I'm offended that anyone can actually behave in such a manner and think it's ok. I'm offended because i've experienced name calling in the past. It's essentially bullying. Just because the person isn't here doesn't make it right. It's poor form on your behalf.

Each new message you write portrays you in a worst light than the last. You don't even want to understand the errors of your ways. I was beginning to warm to you these past few months after speaking to you in other threads but i've gone right off of you again.. and thats a shame because I like everyone here and don't want to have sour feelings towards anyone. I still think you are bloody hilarious though but probably not quite for the reasons you'd like to be. The me playing "dirty games" part was priceless.
 

Mrm

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Re: SAN MARINO 2014 - Valentina Monetta

"Each new message you write portrays you in a worst light than the last."

GOSH and who are you? My Messiah, to save me from the evil! :? That is not your business...let me show myself in bad light or let's say in lite I want to!

Moderators will react on my comments if there is a need!
Nobody will stop me writing about her in a way i want and when i find appropriate..

I apologized to you for that you mention now form a year ago..and after that I didn't offend you again...I know that and that is the most important.. ;)
 
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