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Man we really need to get people to sign that damn petition … I neither have Facebook nor twitter so my possibilities of sharing it are limited. Thanks Insta for not letting me post links.

Maybe someone could post in on reddit? I hate that place but it does have a lot of people.
 

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How about a duet from Cockorov and SerGAY called “Only Straights may enter Mother Russia“ (see what I did there?). Featuring Kamila Valijeva or any other disposable child star who gets kicked around on stage by her coach dressed as Russian doll. xheat
That would move the nationalists to tears.
 

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I'm not signing anything! I want Russia in the contest unless they withdraw on their own terms.

If real shit is about to go down, we're all gonna go capoot ka-boom anyway. (Teapacks say hi) xmusic
Until then, enjoy your life and don't let it be affected by what some old guys in Washington and Moscow are saying because both world superpowers can be seen in a bad and a good light. And it all depends on what news you're being fed.
 

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Who wants to be one of the party people at the rooftop?
 

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I'm not signing anything! I want Russia in the contest unless they withdraw on their own terms.

If real shit is about to go down, we're all gonna go capoot ka-boom anyway. (Teapacks say hi) xmusic
Until then, enjoy your life and don't let it be affected by what some old guys in Washington and Moscow are saying because both world superpowers can be seen in a bad and a good light. And it all depends on what news you're being fed.

Depends on what news you're being fed? You mean the Russian troops surrounding Ukraine and occupying Crimea and invading Donbas are just in our fantasy? The occupied territories of Georgia and Moldova is not real?

There is different opinions and ideologies, then there is rightout fact aversion and propaganda.
 

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I'm not signing anything! I want Russia in the contest unless they withdraw on their own terms.

If real shit is about to go down, we're all gonna go capoot ka-boom anyway. (Teapacks say hi) xmusic
Until then, enjoy your life and don't let it be affected by what some old guys in Washington and Moscow are saying because both world superpowers can be seen in a bad and a good light. And it all depends on what news you're being fed.
I mean, I obvs agree that the US government is not innocent in all of this - no politician is BUT I‘m not a fan of your „you are being fed a specific narrative“-argument. Pretty sure most people are very well able to consider more than one side. We are not as braindead as the Kremlin wants to make people believe lmao.
But yea, let’s just party because anything else is just so depressing. Yay.
 
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I mean, I obvs agree that the US government is not innocent in all of this - no politician is BUT I‘m not a fan of your „you are being fed a specific narrative“-argument. Pretty sure most people are very well able to consider more than one side. We are not as braindead as the Kremlin wants to make people believe lmao.
But yea, let’s just party because anything else is just so depressing. Yay.

Regarding your petition (which is in right place), people will not sign it because they are afraid they could be subjected to Russian hacker attacks if their personal data gets disclosed. It really doesn't matter where you post it.
 

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Regarding your petition (which is in right place), people will not sign it because they are afraid they could be subjected to Russian hacker attacks if their personal data gets disclosed. It really doesn't matter where you post it.
Yea I get that but then again, I`m not gonna let some bots threaten me while speaking up.
 

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Depends on what news you're being fed? You mean the Russian troops surrounding Ukraine and occupying Crimea and invading Donbas are just in our fantasy? The occupied territories of Georgia and Moldova is not real?

There is different opinions and ideologies, then there is rightout fact aversion and propaganda.
Obviously that's not what i meant. :lol:

But i think the opinion of people who are actually living in Transnistria, South Ossetia, Crimea, Luhansk & Donetsk... etc. matters the most. Do they want to join Russia? If yes, we should let them.
Do they want independence? If yes, we should recognize them. Do they want to keep being part of their current state? If yes, we should keep the status quo.
 
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In Austria there are plenty of so called "Russenversteher" (people who "understand" the russian position).
 

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Obviously that's not what i meant. :lol:

But i think the opinion of people who are actually living in Transnistria, South Ossetia, Crimea, Luhansk & Donetsk... etc. matters the most. Do they want to join Russia? If yes, we should let them.
Do they want independence? If yes, we should recognize them. Do they want to keep being part of their current state? If yes, we should keep the status quo.

Well, I don't disagree with you on this, but it needs to be done through democratic channels without a foreign power's influence (like the Scottish independence referendum), and not through invasion, force and coercion.

Anyways, what I don't like is this propaganda that if you speak up against the Russian regime you're automatically hate all Russians etc. , this is obviously not true. I hope that one day Russians will live in a free and democratic society, it's a country with so much lost potential.
 
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Aaaaaaanywas let`s move on before this thread gets closed down.

Exactly. This thread was about participation of Russia on the ESC, until somebody decided to explain us why the Ukrainians are Nazis that deserve an annhiliation of their state (presumably together with Poles, Finns, Swedes, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Georgians, etc. 🤣).

Let's wrap up the discussion with some humour from the legendary U.S. Embassy in Kyiv. 🤣🤣🤣

 
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