Russia RUSSIA 2014 - Tolmachevy Twins - Shine

[RainyWoods]

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I'd love to see the return of Muimy Troll..

Or this woman who I discovered a while ago. I know literally nothing about her other than that she's a very mysterious person apparently. God she's great and this song of hers is just wonderful..

Failing that, i'd like you to go for those two girls screaming in french at each other you had a couple of years ago. I can't recall their names. They were brilliant though. I actually wanted them to win the selection.

 

[Trece]

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Or this woman who I discovered a while ago. I know literally nothing about her other than that she's a very mysterious person apparently. God she's great and this song of hers is just wonderful..

she is lives on Mars already from 2011 or so, in 2011 she gave last concert on the Earth

 

[RainyWoods]

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she is lives on Mars already from 2011 or so, in 2011 she gave last concert on the Earth

No it can't be true1 I remember trying to do some research on her before but it was very difficult. From what I could gather though, it seems she's lived a very interesting life.

On closer inspection i've just found this..

In the mid-'80s the Russian singer Zhanna Aguzarova put a dent in the flat Soviet backdrop with her powerful voice and unapologetic persona. First as the vocalist of the group Bravo and later as a solo artist, her irreverent style and eccentricity made her a symbol of individuality and dissent. Aguzarova was insolent in the face of the oppressive regime, but her voice, full of longing and romanticism, thrilled millions of fans. But Aguzarova remained a mystery, one day taking off without warning for Los Angeles, the next claiming to communicate with Martians. Fans loved her for her incongruities and took every opportunity to turn her shadowy and improbable biography into legend. Nonetheless, her inability to let anyone really know her makes her a tragic figure. The former manager of Bravo, Maxim Leykin, famously said of Aguzarova, "She is on her own, all alone! She has nothing and no one."
In 1982 Aguzarova arrived in Moscow and fell in with the city's bohemian circle. Her pseudonym, Ivana Anders, was adopted because she lacked a passport and thus went by the name on her false documentation, which had belonged to the daughter of a Swedish diplomat. Aguzarova's first musical endeavor was as the lead singer for the group Krimatoriy (Crematorium). In 1983 she was taken in by Evgeniy Havtan as vocalist for the group that would soon be called Bravo. Together with Bravo she recorded a 20-minute-long cassette tape that, circulated among acquaintances, earned them gigs at a Moscow dance club. But on March 18, 1984, Aguzarova's past caught up with her when she was arrested after a concert. She, like many rock musicians of the time, had not escaped official scrutiny and was arrested on the pretext of her phony documentation. By some accounts she was deported from Moscow and sent home to Siberia. By others she spent a year in prison and committed to a psychiatric ward.
A year later, in an effort to keep the troublesome artist under check, the Soviet regime gave Aguzarova a second chance. She rejoined Bravo, which had been invited to take part in the U.S.S.R.'s Creative Laboratory of Rock Music in Moscow. Her compliance was paid for in TV appearances, festivals, concerts, and benefits for Bravo engineered primarily by Soviet pop icon Alla Pugachova. These years with Bravo, from 1985-1987, were instrumental in Aguzarova's development as a pop star. In 1987 the government-run Melodia label released the group's first album, Bravo. In these early years Aguzarova is remembered for her off-beat vintage outfits as well as for her attention-grabbing energy. The singles of Bravo's Aguzarova phase are "Jeltie Botinki" (Yellow Boots), "Koshki" (Cats), "Veru Ya" (I Believe), and also "Chudesnaya Strana" (Wonderful Country), which was included on the wildly popular soundtrack of 1988 film ASSA, which included songs by other Soviet rock heroes such as Victor Tzoi of Kino, Akvarium, and Alisa.
By the late '80s she had gained the status of a pop icon, but as Bravo lost momentum and began to look more and more like a tool of the administration, she left the group to pursue her solo career. Her first and best reviewed solo release was Russkiy Album (The Russian Album), whose musical approach occupied a place between rock & roll and Russian romance (a genre based on gypsy and Italian songs popular in early-20th century Russia).
In 1990 Aguzarova took flight for Los Angeles, CA, on the advice of her mentor, Alla Pugachova, who told her that only in America would her talent be fully appreciated. But Aguzarova did not find fame and fortune in L.A., but rather a two-year gig singing Soviet standards at the Black Sea Restaurant. Legend has it that she lived in America with documents that she bought for seven dollars upon arriving. She formed a group there called the Nineteen Nineties that did covers of the group Tzentr (Center). The project was a collaboration with Vasiliy Shumov. During her American years Aguzarova made occasional concert appearances in the former Soviet Union.
In 1996 Aguzarova returned to Russia and concerned herself with avant-garde art endeavors such as happenings. But it was not long before she assembled a group of musicians to perform her old hits from the Russkiy Album and her time with Bravo. In 1998 Bravo's Evgeniy Havtan convinced Aguzarova to take part in the super tour "Bravo with Vocalists from Different Eras," but erratic and unpredictable as ever, she quickly lost interest and returned to Moscow.
In the new millennium Aguzarova lives intermittently in Europe and Russia, surfacing occasionally, just long enough to give someone a black eye or put on a great show. She is know for her distrust of the media, and for that reason, relatively little is known about her. Her repeated claims of "internal connections" with Martians have led many to believe that she is mentally unstable. Others accept her as a performer, who is out, above all else, to make a scene.

I want her for Eurovision

 

[Yuliya]

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I like this song.

 

[WhoKnows]

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Russian? Like this?

Pelageya, Elmira & Co - "Black Raven"

Unfortunately, Eurovision will not get Pelageya. In Russia everyone has seen Pelageya as prima world’s opera. However Pelageya chose folk-rock.

Wow, that is so lovely. Would be great to see something like that from Russia. Don't expect juries to vote for it, probably too "ethnic" for them.

 

[ParadiseES]

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Alsou again

 

[GWTW1939]

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Since this year is the other channel's job they will probably have a national selection so I hope a few well known Russian names participate. I got no problem with Voice contestants since it appears unlike most other countries the Russian ones can actually sing live. So I'm going to list a few will never happen impossibilities:

Zemfira

MakSim

Yin & Yang

Ranetki Girls xbb

Jenia Lubich

Alla Pugacheva's Daughter!!!

 

[toinou03]

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Failing that, i'd like you to go for those two girls screaming in french at each other you had a couple of years ago. I can't recall their names. They were brilliant though. I actually wanted them to win the selection.

Do you mean them my Rainywoods ? Oh la la ! What a weird thing ! I was wondering in what language was all the song as there are big parts I can't understand anything... Then I looked for the lyrics on 4lyriscs... AHAHAHAH It mostly doesn't mean anything... There is no grammar !

 

[RainyWoods]

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Do you mean them my Rainywoods ? Oh la la ! What a weird thing ! I was wondering in what language was all the song as there are big parts I can't understand anything... Then I looked for the lyrics on 4lyriscs... AHAHAHAH It mostly doesn't mean anything... There is no grammar !

Oh my goodness, yes them!!! The brunette girl, it's like she's possessed by some kind of demonic spirit.. or maybe Louis Armstrong? I had no idea the french was terrible as I can't speak it. I often don't mind though when english makes no sense. It can be quite mysterious and charming

On the subject of nonsense language, this Zhanna Aguzarova song is apparently in english. xsing"Za vite roses, za vote roses"

There's a warm behind the glass, but cruel morozy
This evening I'm moving very close to open the plant
You deep create in the winter time, but beautiful roses
And to get me inside of this cruel world, cold winter blizzard

The white roses, the white roses - shining in your eyes.
The white roses, the white roses - lovely lightingly light
People will take it to make much better holidays be for you
Counting on a few days of using, flowers disappeared.

They're celebrating life and life at angry disasters.
This evening I'm moving very close to open the plant
Do you want to be love me with your love, and my beautiful roses
Kiss kissing afront of all and all this ready to start

The white roses, the white roses - shining in your eyes.
The white roses, the white roses - lovely lightingly light
People will take it to make much better holidays be for you

Counting on a few days of using, flowers disappeared.


I would love more than anything for her to represent Russia at Eurovision. She seems such an enigma.

 

[toinou03]

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Oh my goodness, yes them!!! The brunette girl, it's like she's possessed by some kind of demonic spirit.. or maybe Louis Armstrong? I had no idea the french was terrible as I can't speak it. I often don't mind though when english makes no sense. It can be quite mysterious and charming

Usually I always support any french and I love accents but there, there are entire parts I really can't understand, especially because they shout at each other when the other tries singing French with a devilish accent ! 3

Basically, if I translate lyrics trying to keep the grammar errors (in fact it's really less shocking in English as language lies less on grammar than French)
It's a wooden puppet, puppet
When daddy made it, she made it

Tiny, but she understands well
Everything which concerns her

Play, my sister, play

It's past, is no rules anymore,
That I have to, that I don't have to
Every second I feel myself shiiit
And in my head I hear voices

And for who all these flags ?
I don't want to resign
But why that ? About that
I finished reforcing

I'm just a puppet
Who has anything left, even of target
We lives now on Internet
And all these people are very passive

CHORUS
If I don't want to be a doll
Everybody will say : just to listen
We understand very well that you have to make
But I don't want to be a puppet

It's very odd that
My friends that I love very strongs
They don't see each other to have tied feet and fists

Thay believe they take decisions
T's not like that it's an illusion
But I have the right to make them change
It's a feeble opinion

I don't give a shiiiit of alls the rules
You know the voices ? There is not anymore
I can't follow the crowd notwithstanding
All this flags are disappeared

And now I feel free of all these chains
Of all this weigt
And eventually I will be able to live
And who know it ? Maybe not

CHORUS

It's very odd that
My friends that I love very strongs
Thet don't understand of to be wooded


3 They have to buy it.

But indeed there is something appealing there... The song has been ranked as one of the weirdest songs in Eurovision...
The Quietus | Features | A Warm Hand For Mister Fisto's Entry: The Best Eurovision Acts

Dealing with Russian French I prefered this though... I love the fact Russian want to sing in French !

 

[RainyWoods]

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Wow those lyrics are epic! Who cares if they make no sense? There's obviously some very deep meaning behind it all thats there to be unravelled by those that dare

I like that other Russian French song you shared I can't believe it's from 2010 though Sounds like it's from a billion years ago.

The sad thing is, I think if Russians sent a french song they'd actually score better with it than the french in the contest


That article with the 10 best Eurovision acts that never got chosen was hilarious Mister Fisto made me spit my tea out

 

[toinou03]

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Wow those lyrics are epic! Who cares if they make no sense? There's obviously some very deep meaning behind it all thats there to be unravelled by those that dare

I like that other Russian French song you shared I can't believe it's from 2010 though Sounds like it's from a billion years ago.

The sad thing is, I think if Russians sent a french song they'd actually score better with it than the french in the contest


That article with the 10 best Eurovision acts that never got chosen was hilarious Mister Fisto made me spit my tea out

Yes it's thank to them that I know the Marionnette !

Oh yes I have a soft spot for Mr Fisto, and for La Bicicletera as well... 2

 

[Odalis]

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If we talk about Zhanna Aguzarova here are classics that some of "The Voice" contestants like to butcher very much :

I don't want her to go to the Eurovision, she looks horrible these days :?

Btw, "Bravo" has always been an amazing band with amazing songs, with all the different lead singers:

 

[Fluke]

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How about Vitas?

 

[Odalis]

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Uh-Oh...The guy hasn't had a decent song for ages, he built a career in China only getting back to Russia about an year ago and his behavior is despicable.

Stoned Vitas and his wife hit a bicycle:

Just no

 

[pinkchiffon]

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I don't really want to know what he's like as a person, but anyway, he has methods of performing live that are not allowed on the Eurovision stage. He is entertaining, but that's his only priority.

 

[Odalis]

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I would not care about his personality as well if he was present and current in russian show business releasing some great songs, but he's not. The only thing he's got is an interesting voice, if he enters national selection with an awesome song i will support him entirely, but he's got nothing to offer now.

 

[pinkchiffon]

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I just meant that that he usually chooses not to sing live anyway (if he does sometimes, evidence shouldn't be as difficult to find as it is...) and would never enter something like Eurovision. I guess it's no big loss now.

 

[Narmina]

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I would not care about his personality as well if he was present and current in russian show business releasing some great songs, but he's not. The only thing he's got is an interesting voice, if he enters national selection with an awesome song i will support him entirely, but he's got nothing to offer now.

Maybe in this video he didn't show himself in the best way, but there are a lot of singers in russian show-business which are a way worse than Vitas. At least he is an artist with a unique voice

 

[Odalis]

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Maybe in this video he didn't show himself in the best way, but there are a lot of singers in russian show-business which are a way worse than Vitas. At least he is an artist with a unique voice

With no hit or at least decent songs.
In the end it's a song that matters, if they choose him and write him a great song it will be cool, but for now he's just an ex-star with a bad attitude.