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CaraMia

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I couldn't believe when I read the news that Romania had been disqualified for debts. At this point, EBU couldn't have done this. If they had not allowed Romania to take part in ESC right after ESC 2015 or when the country started showing interest to take part this year, yes, EBU would have all my support. But allowing Romania to get involved in this year's preparation, having a national final and even including their song in the official CD and then saying that they can't take part is just cruel and they lost all the reason they could have. And even if TVR ignored all the calls that EBU had made to them in order to regularize the situation, EBU should have never allowed this to get to the point where they are now. What happens when you don't pay your electricity bill? Next month you don't have electricty. Or they will continue to provide you electricity and they will only cut the electricity in two years? Yeah... if EBU provides a service that requires payment and the "client" doesn't pay, EBU is the one that fails for continuing to provide the service.

I just have to say I'm really sorry for the singer. Winning a national final like he did (with a clear victory), preparing everything, promoting his entry like he was doing and then be told that he is not going to take part is... I don't even have words. If I'm feeling like this, I don't even want to imagine what the singer himself is feeling and also the Romanian ESC fans. Honestly, I feel this situation demands some kind of legal action. #jesuisovidiuanton
 

RainyWoods

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I echo the above thoughts of CaraMia. It's really cold the way that EBU have handled this. TVR are in the wrong, and it's entirely their fault but why didn't EBU nip this in the bud earlier? Why has it taken them so many years? Why have they allowed Romania to select someone to represent them at this years contest? Did they believe the millions owed would suddenly be payed back to them? An innocent man has just had his dreams cut in two, and months of his life taken away from him. Where's their heart? By all means, throw a country out who's not paying. Just do it when they haven't selected their entry and the artist has been preparing for months. This is ridiculously cruel. I hope Ovidiu sues some butts.

I'm sorry to Romania and all fans of what should of been their song for this year:(
 

Chorizo

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Maybe the EBU thought that having a deadline before Eurovision would make it more likely for the Romanian broadcaster to agree on settling the debt considering the public attention being banned from Eurovision would cause. It's likely that the mainstream media will mention this in many countries. If Romania had been barred from participating in this year's contest all along, there wouldn't have been much public attention and therefore less pressure on the broadcaster.

The EBU might also have felt the need to make an example of Romania. There might be other broadcasters that have run up a debt that we are not aware of. Of course, the broadcaster should have never been allowed to accumulate that much debt over so many years in the first place.
 

VikingTiger

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This is very sad for Ovidiu and his fans.
But I am NOT blaming the EBU for this. They might have tried to solve it all. But if the broadcaster doesnt even reply - I fully understand the reacions of the EBU.
 

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Rusch

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Maybe the EBU thought that having a deadline before Eurovision would make it more likely for the Romanian broadcaster to agree on settling the debt considering the public attention being banned from Eurovision would cause. It's likely that the mainstream media will mention this in many countries. If Romania had been barred from participating in this year's contest all along, there wouldn't have been much public attention and therefore less pressure on the broadcaster.

The EBU might also have felt the need to make an example of Romania. There might be other broadcasters that have run up a debt that we are not aware of. Of course, the broadcaster should have never been allowed to accumulate that much debt over so many years in the first place.

I'm not sure, but I think I read that Romania hasn't paid the fees of the last three years. If this is the case, they already have extended deadlines at least a couple of times.
And more importantly: They have to act also infavour of the other 50+ member that have paid the fees.
 

Centrix

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TV Moldova invited Ovidiu to sing with Lidia on stage.
 

Centrix

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"Ma inclin in fata fratilor nostri din Moldova, este un gest extraordinar, unic si nobil.
Pentru ca stiu cata munca este in pregatirea unui astfel de moment si cat de important este Eurovisionul pentru cariera unui artist nu vreau sa afectez in vreun fel prestatia Lidiei pentru care a investit atata energie. Este o piesa care i se potriveste de minune si oricat imi doresc sa fiu pe scena la care am visat, nu pot accepta sa o fac aducand riscuri pentru alti artisti. Eu imi doresc sa cant Moment of Silence pentru romani si pentru fanii eurovision de pretutindeni.
Succes, Lidia, este momentul tau si ai sa stralucesti!
Multumesc inca o data pentru acest gest deosebit.
Nu voi uita niciodata
Ovidiu Anton"

Google Translate: "I bow to our brothers in Moldova , it is an extraordinary gesture , unique and noble .
Because I know how much work is in the preparation of such a moment and how important it is for the career of an artist Eurovision do not want to affect in any way the performance of Lydia who invested so much energy . It is a piece that fits perfectly and however I want to be on stage I dreamed , I can not accept to do bringing risks for other artists . I wish I sing Moment of Silence for Romanians and for eurovision fans everywhere.
Success, Lydia, is your moment to shine and you !
Thanks again for this great gesture .
I will never forget
Ovidiu Anton "
 

ParadiseES

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I have no words to express how evil EBU is. This really has no name.

I know TVR is completely guilty here, but I don't get why EBU takes such an extreme action at this moment if the debt has been accumulating since 2008. If they haven't been paying their bills for 8 years, don't allow them to participate. But don't let them join. Doing this just a couple of weeks before the rehearsals is just evil and also a childish anger.
TVR might deserve this but what about?

- The artist. Taking part in ESC means stopping a musical career for months to focus on the contest. So many hours, so much work, so much effort, so much hope....for nothing!

- The fans. Hundreds of Romanian fans must have their tickets, their flights, their hotels, everything booked to support their country in Stockholm. That means a lot of money (because nothing of this is cheap at all) and I'm sure that amount of money means much more for those individuals than Romanian debt for EBU (not even talking about the sentimental meaning).

You are free to allow or not allow someone in your game, but once you allow him, you can't kick him out. That's a basic rule of life.
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EBU is well known for ignoring the rules whenever they want (hello Australia!), so please, don't treat us as fools.
 

martin

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I have no words to express how evil EBU is. This really has no name.

I know TVR is completely guilty here, but I don't get why EBU takes such an extreme action at this moment if the debt has been accumulating since 2008. If they haven't been paying their bills for 8 years, don't allow them to participate. But don't let them join. Doing this just a couple of weeks before the rehearsals is just evil and also a childish anger.
TVR might deserve this but what about?

- The artist. Taking part in ESC means stopping a musical career for months to focus on the contest. So many hours, so much work, so much effort, so much hope....for nothing!

- The fans. Hundreds of Romanian fans must have their tickets, their flights, their hotels, everything booked to support their country in Stockholm. That means a lot of money (because nothing of this is cheap at all) and I'm sure that amount of money means much more for those individuals than Romanian debt for EBU (not even talking about the sentimental meaning).

You are free to allow or not allow someone in your game, but once you allow him, you can't kick him out. That's a basic rule of life.
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EBU is well known for ignoring the rules whenever they want (hello Australia!), so please, don't treat us as fools.

So true say. This sucks to the romanian people, the singer and his team and to all fans who love Romania or even have buy ticket to cheer for the country. This is a big scandal
 

Centrix

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I think that this affects not only the Romanian fans, but all of us, even the ones that hated the song. We all expected to see how it will look and sound and everything on ESC stage. For all the fans this year will look more or less incomplete. I am still very surprised by all the support that came from the fans from everywhere. Even if we all agree that TVR sucks and deserve to be disqualified, we still considere that EBU acted disgusting and contrary to what they say that believe: C#ComeTogether, Unity, Peace etc. We see that for them just money talk. Australia, next year China... but they eliminate one of the bigest countries from Europe, but not only punishing TVR (who deserve it), but humiliating all the nation, not talking about poor Ovidiu.
 

Brandt

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Since the poll keeps on, do we vote for withdrawal of Romania or what?
 

rebus

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We all expected to see how it will look and sound and everything on ESC stage.

I didn't.

we still considere that EBU acted disgusting and contrary to what they say that believe: C#ComeTogether, Unity, Peace etc.

We? Who "we"? I think EBU was correct.

but they eliminate one of the bigest countries from Europe, but not only punishing TVR (who deserve it), but humiliating all the nation,

Oh, common... "humiliating all the nation"... It is our fault. We humiliated ourselves. Why didn't we pay? Where did all those money go?
 

Centrix

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I never thought that there are no exceptions. You are one, still the expresion "we all" refers at a majority. If you didn't care about "we all", why do you think that "we all" will care that you didn't or something regarding your person? Also, if "we all" feel humiliated we don't care that you considere that is your fault. My fault for sure is not. You should understand that "we all" feel no guilt for this, but feel humiliated. It is TVR fault, not mine. If you considere that is your fault, asume it and respect the pain of "we all" or simple, get a life... alone, in that life you should not care anymore about the others feeling. Ah, and "we all" accept that you are sooo special. Why should you live between us?
 
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Ok, the song and the performance was hammy (allthough I quite like it just for being that!), but it came with a much-needed diversity in a sea polluted with EDM-garbage and pretentious ballads. As such, their withdrawal much be seen as a huge disappointment. Shame!
 
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