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GRAND FINAL LIVE

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harey said:
@Trece I talked about French jury on the French thread and when seeing results on TV I thought that they were playing bad towards other favourites but looking at their votes... They just don't agree on anything, which at the end leads to this strange results (+ we wonder if one of them didn't put its scores upside down in the SF or made mistakes). To me it's just a chaotic group of 5 people having really different music opinion: one of them put Finland 1st and Italy 3rd for exemple, and Italy was 11th. Yeah maybe I tend to see the nicest possibility but it's how I feel.
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Yeah I just saw it, it's all over the place, Greece was basically their 12pts cause they couldn't agree on one song.

Like Ukraine is doing top 10 with 2 jurors and bottom 5 with the 3 others.
Italy is doing top 10 with 3 jurors and bottom 5 with 2 others
Switzerland is doing top 10 with 3 jurors, 15th with one and bottom 5 with the last juror.
While Greece had 4 top 10 and one bottom 5.

We couldn't have more polarizing results
 
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harey said:
@PollyWantsACracker France DID give 7 points to Switzerland and Italy was 11th (3rd, 8th and 10th with 3 jurors out of 5). When seeing their voting, explain to me what proves that they purposely put some song below top 10 while all their voting are so different from each others:

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MALTA - ZERO POINTS

ITALY - ZERO POINTS

UKRAINE - ZERO POINTS

Zero points to all entries who could potentially win televote!!!

And only 7 to Gjon.

Cmon now! 😒
 
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@PollyWantsACracker you said Switzerland, my answer was Switzerland.

I just quote:

popavapeur said:
Yeah I just saw it, it's all over the place, Greece was basically their 12pts cause they couldn't agree on one song.

Like Ukraine is doing top 10 with 2 jurors and bottom 5 with the 3 others.
Italy is doing top 10 with 3 jurors and bottom 5 with 2 others
Switzerland is doing top 10 with 3 jurors, 15th with one and bottom 5 with the last juror.
While Greece had 4 top 10 and one bottom 5.

We couldn't have more polarizing results
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So they gave points to the less polarising songs. Really, my 1st reaction was yours but when I closely look to their results it kind of makes sense that 5 people with highly different tastes won't agree and it makes it look like a mess.
 
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French jury about the favorites :

Malta :

Juror A : 9
Juror B : 11
Juror C : 25
Juror D : 13
Juror E : 9

Italy :

Juror A : 23
Juror B : 10
Juror C : 3
Juror D : 8
Juror E : 22

Ukraine :

Juror A : 22
Juror B : 8
Juror C : 24
Juror D : 25
Juror E : 7

Switzerland :

Juror A : 3
Juror B : 1
Juror C : 15
Juror D : 10
Juror E : 20

Juror E seemed to only like pop songs, he/she ranked really high Cyprus, San Marino or Greece for example.
Juror C on the contrary liked more the rock and mid tempo songs.
Juror A was so-so actually, seemed like he/she liked radio friendly songs more.

I won't dive too much in their results cause it's not the right topic but it's kinda fascinating.
 
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popavapeur said:
Yeah I just saw it, it's all over the place, Greece was basically their 12pts cause they couldn't agree on one song.

Like Ukraine is doing top 10 with 2 jurors and bottom 5 with the 3 others.
Italy is doing top 10 with 3 jurors and bottom 5 with 2 others
Switzerland is doing top 10 with 3 jurors, 15th with one and bottom 5 with the last juror.
While Greece had 4 top 10 and one bottom 5.

We couldn't have more polarizing results
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I'm not against juries per se. But I really think they vote like every human being: according to taste, geography here and there and strategy.

Putting the latter factors aside, it boggles me that 5 people vote so differently, being professionals. So I must assume it's their taste who differs. And that alone makes me question juries every year.

5 people's taste overrule millions.
 
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mauve said:
Sad thing that Maneskin can't enjoy their victory. I hope that the test will prove everyone wrong.
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Prejudice will be prejudice. Cruelty will be cruelty. The damage is done. I've read people saying that the drug test is to clean the face of the band and EBU.

They should've never allowed this parody. A simple straightforward statement would've been enough.

They should've asked @Matt how it is done.

I'm gutted.
 
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lacrymea said:
Prejudice will be prejudice. Cruelty will be cruelty. The damage is done. I've read people saying that the drug test is to clean the face of the band and EBU.

They should've never allowed this parody. A simple straightforward statement would've been enough.

They should've asked @Matt how it is done.

I'm gutted.
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I am so sorry for Damiano as he is reexperiencing again the same thing he wanted to get out of his system when he wrote Zitti e buoni. It is so unfair.
 
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Is there a way to see televotes for each country in order? I. E. The top 26 as voted by each country?
 
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spinachpie said:
Is there a way to see televotes for each country in order? I. E. The top 26 as voted by each country?
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Yes, in eurovision.tv detailed results page you can scroll down and next to jury points given there is also overall televoting ranking of that country. For example, here is Albania's page: https://eurovision.tv/event/rotterdam-2021/grand-final/results/albania , their 1st in televoting was Switzerland, and 25th Belgium, but you can choose any country you want
 

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GermanBango said:
Results and everything aside ... It was really great to see people actually physically interacting with each other (hugging, dancing, just having fun,...). I didn`t even realize how much I needed to see some normality.
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Ikr, the ending with all of them congratulating each other and celebrating together was so touching 🥰
 
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spinachpie said:
Is there a way to see televotes for each country in order? I. E. The top 26 as voted by each country?
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Yes.

Results of the Grand Final of Rotterdam 2021 - Eurovision Song Contest

Official website of the Eurovision Song Contest. The latest news, photos, videos, participant info, voting results, the Contest's rich history and much more.
eurovision.tv eurovision.tv

You need to click on the each country from the dropdown list and see how the televoters and juries ranked the rest of the 25 countries under the "Detailed voting breakdown" section.
 
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