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Reminds me of Italy winning in 1990 and then withdrawing from 1994 to 2010, with the exception of 1997. :ROFLMAO:
Nothing is ever certain in life, but I sure think the chance is greater that a nation will stay if they do well than if they do really badly xup
 

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Well, whilst I am still processing a certain result I will say this; I hope that last nights result will send a message across Europe once and for all that you can get a great result without singing in English. Only one song in the top 5 was in English and I hope to see more countries singing in their native languages more in future now. Sure Portugal's win a couple contests ago proved it first. But now there are nooooo excuses!
 

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Even though UK, Germany and Spain deserved last, it is still a little cruel for 0 points.

I think they should weight points more from the public.

Keep jury points 1 - 12.

Then have 20, 18, 16 ... 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 from the public.

This will give the opportunity for more nations to get more points, but will also:

A) Give more weighting to the public, which should be the case anyway
B) Lessen the impact of political voting, as there are more points given for other countries
C) Give more countries the chance to get points and not have shame in getting 0
I'm not against that idea to be honest.
 

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You know, guy, while you argue about various relevant/irrelevant things in relation to this year's ESC edition, I'd like to add one simple thing which I see in this year: somehow the televote winner finally won over the juries winners/favorites. This did not happen in years, as juries always killed televote winners. This year, luckily there were many good songs so that juries divided their points among different countries, and this opened up the way for the televote winner to actually win the contest. I feel like Italy was finally revenged for their stolen victory in 2015. And that's the year when this all jury mingling started and we did not have the actual televote winners since then. Italy's victory yesterday is thus a double victory + revenge. That's the best part of it all - I hate juries.
 

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will we get the chance to see the live on tape performances this year? i remember they announced it weeks ago
 

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You know, guy, while you argue about various relevant/irrelevant things in relation to this year's ESC edition, I'd like to add one simple thing which I see in this year: somehow the televote winner finally won over the juries winners/favorites. This did not happen in years, as juries always killed televote winners. This year, luckily there were many good songs so that juries divided their points among different countries, and this opened up the way for the televote winner to actually win the contest. I feel like Italy was finally revenged for their stolen victory in 2015. And that's the year when this all jury mingling started and we did not have the actual televote winners since then. Italy's victory yesterday is thus a double victory + revenge. That's the best part of it all - I hate juries.
İt didnt happen only last time in 2019 from recent years, 2018 and 2017 televote winners won
 

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Happy to see Italy is now fully on the Eurovision train. The ratings have been modest and slowly growing, but Italy is now a proper Eurovision nation. :cool:
Thats can be a bad thing i am afraid, İtaly was doing own thing for years, i hope they dont start to send those over calculated Swedish plastic songs
 

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Happy to see Italy is now fully on the Eurovision train. The ratings have been modest and slowly growing, but Italy is now a proper Eurovision nation. :cool:
And the most succesful one of the last 10 years
 

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Thats can be a bad thing i am afraid, İtaly was doing own thing for years, i hope they dont start to send those over calculated Swedish plastic songs
No, I don't expect that, their San Remo choices worked really well and their songs have a very clear Italian stamp. I do expect the interest to participate will grow among established music stars in Italy.
 

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It's cruel, yeah, but I screamed when she said "I'm sorry" at Germany - such a flashbacks. Escándalo!
Also when Russian & Bulgarian juries gave 12, the Dream Team Greek jury gave 10 and dear friends from Azerbaijan gave 8 to Kirkorov. 80% of Moldovan points received from the juries. And Moldovan jury gave it back to Russia, Bulgaria, Greece and Azerbaijan.
When Polish jury gave 12 pts to San Marino - their first 12 from the juries ever (y)
 

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It's cruel, yeah, but I screamed when she said "I'm sorry" at Germany - such a flashbacks. Escándalo!
Also when Russian & Bulgarian juries gave 12, the Dream Team Greek jury gave 10 and dear friends from Azerbaijan gave 8 to Kirkorov. 80% of Moldovan points received from the juries.
When Polish jury gave 12 pts to San Marino - their first 12 from the juries ever (y)
As much as i like San Marino, i am not surprised because Senhit went to Poland out of all countries, and they kinda exchanged in semifinal
 
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