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Portugal PORTUGAL 2017 - Salvador Sobral - Amar pelos dois

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    201 52.1%
  • 10

    26 6.7%
  • 8

    20 5.2%
  • 7

    17 4.4%
  • 6

    3 0.8%
  • 5

    23 6.0%
  • 4

    10 2.6%
  • 3

    14 3.6%
  • 2

    5 1.3%
  • 1

    8 2.1%
  • 0

    59 15.3%

  • Total voters
    386

joao

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Salvador just said in an interview to RTP that on Kiev he'll be standing on that little island in the middle of the arena, to make it more intimate xheat

(Actually, i'm not sure he had permission to deliver this information. But it is Salvador being Salvador lol)

It's fine! Otherwise RTP would have cut it off :)
 

ESCada

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I mean he revealed he would be standing ..... He didn't give away too much :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's the right choice for his performance ..... Intimate and touching.

If he was to represent Russia they would ask him to do rock-climbing for a ballad.
 

DanielLuis

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I think the camerawork in the NF performance was very good, the same camera going around the stage and around him for the entire 3 minutes. That won't really be possible in the mini-stage, will it? I'm curious to see how they'll do it.

RTP had already more or less hinted that he was going to perform in the mini stage. On the news piece they aired sunday they said that it was very likely that Salvador would only stand in a very small part of the stage for the 3 minutes.
 

JonnyWest

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:eek: :eek: :eek:

When did this guy find taste?

He also likes :fi: and :be:

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Esctoday had published an article of Salvador's Interview with his views towards the media discussing his condition and of his broader view of Eurovision. It's true, people don't have to know what is wrong with him. And that Eurovision is not the be-all and end-all. What matters is that his music reaches out more to the public by using Eurovision as a platform. http://esctoday.com/144741/portugal-winning-eurovision-not-salvador-sobrals-primary-dream/
 

lacrymea

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I was just going through the reviews of the expert panel on this song here on escunited.

And i came accross this:

Jordan – 3 Points
I admire Salvador’s struggle with illness and hope he overcomes everything. However, this song is a dirge. There are very few, if any, merits to the song: no rhythm, no melody and no real structure. I think it is fantastic that he is singing in his native language, something that is not done enough at Eurovision these days. But, this song sounds like it is half finished and it will be a travesty if it qualifies.

For real? :? I mean, is this an honest review? I can understand people that say it's boring, they don't get it, they don't like it, etc. I accept that. Experts that rated it even lower wrote similar stuff and it's fine.

But this? Jesus...
 

DanielLuis

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That's true, it's normal for people to not get the song, not connect with it, whatever, but to say it has "no rhythm, no melody and no real structure."? He must have heard the song once or something.
 

cegs5

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That's crazy. I thought he would be excited with the campiness of Montenegro.

He does like it a lot.
I think William is the only among those who are scoring the songs, who analyses the entire package, and he does respect every music genre on its own. I remember he was the only in Wiwi who found PKN (Finland 2015) an interesting entry. The otehr guys are more into formulaic manufactured entries with the same structure.
 

Jack

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RTP uploaded on its Facebook an Interview with the brothers Sobral in Spanish. "Perfect"(!!!) spanish from both!!
 

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[MENTION=10206]lacrymea[/MENTION], [MENTION=6762]DanielLuis[/MENTION]: Wiwiblog's jury review of Portugal has finally arrived:
http://wiwibloggs.com/2017/04/22/wiwi-jury-portugal-salvador-sobral-amar-pelos-dois/180143/

Keeping in mind that it is an informal jury, I still am very happy to see the praise Amar Pelos Dois is receiving. It is almost like an aphrodisiac to see and read the positivity that surrounds what you like, especially what you usually like is so different from the mainstream trends of things.

When I listened to a radio podcast that played each song and gave commentary of each song in the first half of semi-final 1, it made me think. (Here is the Link to the podcast from Joy 94.9FM. http://media.rawvoice.com/joy_archi...ds/sites/73/2017/04/2017-04-15-JOYESC-128.mp3 .
Go to the near very end).

As an audience member who is listening to a radio podcast dedicated to Eurovision for the first time, I imagined what it would be like for a typical listener who is listening to the song for the first time.

Each song is announced with some pre-hints from the previous song, then the song begins to play as they announce the song. And, unfortunately for Amar Pelos Dois, being exposed like that, the song really is disadvantaged by the radio bops beforehand and the announcer's voice.

Having it played on the radio podcast with hosts that exhibit the Australian cultural schema of informality, reinforces a reconceptualisation of the cultural concept of 'purpose' as is applied in Eurovision. Instead of listening to the songs with the schema of picking out an identifiable quality about the country the song is representing, it is reconceptualised into showing modern tracks that are radio-friendly that so happens to be from a different country, but supports the increasing globalisation, in the form of domination of American English, technology, power and popular culture. It is almost as if the concepts of 'globalisation' and 'success' have become intertwined in the song contest as well. In th case of this Australian radio show, it isn't perceived to fit in with being informal and the perceived entertainment of Eurovision.

Lined up in a row, after barely digesting from the more modern entries, without the visual break or mood break, if there isn't some silence dividing the song to let the adrenaline rush calm down, people won't get the song, and why would a song like this be on a radio channel, shucked between modern entries. I guess you can call it conditioning by the radio.

In total: I began to understand where the low-rates are coming from. The environment of exposure is critical. I'm curious to hear from some of the other forum members here who are not so enthusiastic about where and how they first heard this song. Unfortunately, I still don't know many people here, and knowing that people don't tend to visit the threads that they don't like, i'm not sure if I'll ever find out. ::(:

EDIT: found someone ^^ [MENTION=15228]LoveStormGuy[/MENTION]
 
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