DanielLuis
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Looks like Spanish fans traded in their citizenship this year for Portuguese ones
Well, comparing both entries they made the right decision! #noshade
Portugal PORTUGAL 2017 - Salvador Sobral - Amar pelos dois
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Well, comparing both entries they made the right decision! #noshade
Simon87
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I cant stop laughing at his mimics
The song is not my cup of tea
4pts
The song is not my cup of tea
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Simon87
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Cant get enough of this gif xsos x???x???
xsos x???x???
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Portugal is also in my personal top 5 this year. I am relatively new to Eurovision, having started watching only since 2015. Even then, I'm always really cautious and selective- since it consists of so many pop songs that don't last long. I've been crazy searching for any reviews of this beautiful, sensitive song to consume whole-heartedly.
Tesselating Hexagons has quite an interesting analysis of the song too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpTZs8zDc6w
Marta Carvalho also has done a touching cover to his song if you haven't checked it out already- it will not ever beat the original, but it is still very beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q0R5q9DeXw
I started crying watching the video where he stopped midway singing 'Amar Pelos Dois' - to think that he had never had a sold-out concert before Eurovision and to finally receive the recognition deserved of a stunning artist! I'm so ready to add going to Portugal just to see his concert to my bucket list. It seems I have no choice but to buy his album and this song on ITunes, as there is no way I can seem to get a physical album from Australia.
Each time he sings this song, he sings it a little differently, like a true jazz artist. I wonder if the rendition at the Eurovision semi-final will include, if not the majority, of his former experimentations. For example, I really hope he uses the mouthing of trumpet(https://youtu.be/lAwyAs8GVDM?t=1m20s), singing the chorus a little higher(https://youtu.be/DAHk-3549PM?t=2m20s), humming along with the violin, and the miming of the violin shot silhouette( https://youtu.be/W7Dp-UM24q0?t=2m58s)
There's a reason why they did the official video as a slight revamp of Salvador's finals performance. The guy needs some time to recover and breath from the pressures of Eurovision and more importantly his hernia surgery!
Tesselating Hexagons has quite an interesting analysis of the song too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpTZs8zDc6w
Marta Carvalho also has done a touching cover to his song if you haven't checked it out already- it will not ever beat the original, but it is still very beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q0R5q9DeXw
I started crying watching the video where he stopped midway singing 'Amar Pelos Dois' - to think that he had never had a sold-out concert before Eurovision and to finally receive the recognition deserved of a stunning artist! I'm so ready to add going to Portugal just to see his concert to my bucket list. It seems I have no choice but to buy his album and this song on ITunes, as there is no way I can seem to get a physical album from Australia.
Each time he sings this song, he sings it a little differently, like a true jazz artist. I wonder if the rendition at the Eurovision semi-final will include, if not the majority, of his former experimentations. For example, I really hope he uses the mouthing of trumpet(https://youtu.be/lAwyAs8GVDM?t=1m20s), singing the chorus a little higher(https://youtu.be/DAHk-3549PM?t=2m20s), humming along with the violin, and the miming of the violin shot silhouette( https://youtu.be/W7Dp-UM24q0?t=2m58s)
There's a reason why they did the official video as a slight revamp of Salvador's finals performance. The guy needs some time to recover and breath from the pressures of Eurovision and more importantly his hernia surgery!
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But really, the ideas they can use for the staging is worth discussing about in this forum. Who's excited to what they may bring to the table?
For those who haven't ever seen the stage design yet:
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...icial_host_city_insignia_exchange_takes_place
I'm imagining simple is the way to go for Salvador, but little touches like having a rose in his suit pocket can make the difference and give audiences a better clue as to what is being sung. Everything in the staging needs to help with expressing the meaning behind the song and to enhance the poetry of the lyrics.
Here's some ideas I've come up with that they could use:
- blue/purple gentle lights
- a single/multiple-light spotlight
- gold shimmerings(like that of Frans- If I was Sorry)
It's weird though, the stage this year. It doesn't seem to give a good opportunity to show off any good backlighting(though I might have to eat my words later when the stage is completed).
What I WON'T like is for the staging to completely distract the audience from the singer and his singing. Something low-key, high-class, bar- tender-like would be cool.
For those who haven't ever seen the stage design yet:
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...icial_host_city_insignia_exchange_takes_place
I'm imagining simple is the way to go for Salvador, but little touches like having a rose in his suit pocket can make the difference and give audiences a better clue as to what is being sung. Everything in the staging needs to help with expressing the meaning behind the song and to enhance the poetry of the lyrics.
Here's some ideas I've come up with that they could use:
- blue/purple gentle lights
- a single/multiple-light spotlight
- gold shimmerings(like that of Frans- If I was Sorry)
It's weird though, the stage this year. It doesn't seem to give a good opportunity to show off any good backlighting(though I might have to eat my words later when the stage is completed).
What I WON'T like is for the staging to completely distract the audience from the singer and his singing. Something low-key, high-class, bar- tender-like would be cool.
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If you are not into real jazz it is, just read some comments of user [MENTION=9441]RainyWoods[/MENTION] here on this topic, and you will understand how real jazz is being performed!
What do you mean? Fiddling with the fingers like a spider and shanking the head in an odd way? Actually I like Jazz, but this performance had nothing to do with Jazz. Ok, he wanted to express his emotions, I get that, but you can do that without looking like an idiotic homeless.
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I actually disagree with most staging suggestions people have been giving. Trying to clean up his image and make it more stereotypical of the kind of song he is singing is to ruin a big part of what has made him successful and memorable - the fact that he is so different from everything you would expect, and combines so many things that do not normally go together.
Luckily I think Salvador is not the kind of artist that has the mindset of thinking "what can I change in my performance to make it more marketable and appealing", and not the kind of artist that would take suggestions from people other than himself and his sister, who are the one who created the song. And why should they, if it's working?
I think what we will be getting in Kiev will be very similar to what we got in Lisbon
Luckily I think Salvador is not the kind of artist that has the mindset of thinking "what can I change in my performance to make it more marketable and appealing", and not the kind of artist that would take suggestions from people other than himself and his sister, who are the one who created the song. And why should they, if it's working?
I think what we will be getting in Kiev will be very similar to what we got in Lisbon
ZoboCamel
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As much as this type of music usually bores me to tears, Salvador's song is steadily growing on me! Upgraded to an 8 
RainyWoods
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This performance had a lot, actually everything to do with jazz. Jazz isn't about caring how you look on stage or presenting yourself in a particular way just to please or avoid offending people. The best jazz artists are one with the music, and totally let go of self restraint as they perform. It's coming from a very deep place. Each performance of "Amar Pelos Dois" felt spontaneous. EuroEccentric's post a bit above reminded me of something very important. One of the greatest, certainly the most influential jazz singers of all time, Billie Holiday, said that she could never perform a song the same way twice. That's precisely what jazz is about. You don't just sing it. You live it in that moment, and no two performances should ever be the same. In it's truest and purest form, jazz is the most free genre of music. Your mind, body and soul should have no limitations. Jazz is a genre not focused on it's presentation. It goes beyond that. If spider hands and moving his head in a strange way was what Salvador's body made him do in those moments then so be it. Gosh, I can't imagine your reaction if ever you saw a live Antony Hegarty performance. Jazz can do peculiar things to your body. I can say that from experience. It's all about the music though.
And i'm guessing the "idiotic homeless" comment is based on how he was dressed. He's actually very unwell and chose to wear baggy clothing especially to mask his hernias.
QwaarJet
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It is incredible to me still that he put in that level of performance with a hernia. I'd be crawled up on the floor in the foetal position.
RainyWoods
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I recall reading that doctors told him he wouldn't be able to stand for the performance. I didn't know at first he was unwell, but noticed during the semi there was something a bit strange about his posture. It really is incredible how he pulled it off. It suddenly added a very different emotional heft to the song that actually got me down quite a bit, as it pained me to know he had been suffering.
I've decided before this has even hit the Eurovision stage that "Amar pelos dois" is my new all time favourite entry ever. A song and artist like this won't be at the contest again anytime soon. I still can't believe it's actually happening. I'm a broken record at this point with my compliments and such, but this really is the most extraordinary thing that will happen at the contest since i've been a fan.
QwaarJet
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Surely Rona hasn't been dethroned?
I really love this song and will be rooting for it in May, but "Suus" completely destroyed me. A modern masterpiece and Salvador can't quite match that for me.
But we can both agree 2 amazing songs from such talented artists.
RainyWoods
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Surely Rona hasn't been dethroned?
I really love this song and will be rooting for it in May, but "Suus" completely destroyed me. A modern masterpiece and Salvador can't quite match that for me.
But we can both agree 2 amazing songs from such talented artists.
I think she has
The connection I feel with Salvador and his song is too unexplainable. "Suus" was something unheard-of and unprecedented. It soundtracked 2012 for me but it wasn't an easy song to let envelop you, I must admit. "Amar pelos dois" reminds me why I became so passionate about music, and of my years growing up listening to jazz. It's so warm and sentimental. It's the kind of song that heals me. In those 3 minutes nothing else matters. I'm still swooning and getting the same butterflies in my stomach as I did the first time I heard it. Billie Holiday could have sung this and she was the first artist I fell in love with on a deeper, and life changing level. This wouldn't have felt out of place on her last album before she died, "Lady In Satin".But yes, two amazing songs
and can we add "Maybe" as well?
My Eurovision holy trinity.
cassio
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It seems to me that you are describing my feelings toward Heavy Metal, it makes my body do peculiar this, and yes! I can say this from my experience too
Ezio
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I think Portugal is the country most in danger of not living up to fan expectations.
I do not see juries, mostly people from record companies, appreciate this mesmerizer that sounds like vintage Eurovision; and I do not know if it can energize voters at home. It really has to be a deeply emotional and stirring performance in order to generate votes. Otherwise people will overlook and overhear it.
I do not see juries, mostly people from record companies, appreciate this mesmerizer that sounds like vintage Eurovision; and I do not know if it can energize voters at home. It really has to be a deeply emotional and stirring performance in order to generate votes. Otherwise people will overlook and overhear it.
