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NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 22:15 CET)

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

wth sry I must have closed it when I posted haha xD
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Well, if only Greenfroze would be in problem I would give them a 75 % penalisation but since Celinas is a PQ and I don't want to disqualify them because they didn't vote for reasons not depending to them, both nations are in the Contest. I hope they manage to vote though.
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

What is the difference between Celinas' and Greenfroze's situation that would make you punish one of them and leave another one untouched? Such na action would be non-consequent, in my opinion.
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

What is the difference between Celinas' and Greenfroze's situation that would make you punish one of them and leave another one untouched? Such na action would be non-consequent, in my opinion.

The situation is that one nation is already qualified!
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

The situation is that one nation is already qualified!

we already had that in the past...
and if one nation gets the deduction and fail to make the final because of that it will be sooo NOT fair the other one to be in the final even with not voting for the same reason.
don't you think so?
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

As I said. Both nations are in. But when I said what I said about Greenfroze their situation was different! :lol:
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

If Greenfroze receives amount of points allowing them to qualify no matter who they would have voted for (12 pts ahead of 10th places is always enough), it will also make them "already qualified". You would strip one nation out of their final place and let another one enter.

I have no strong opinion if they should be punished or not, what i'm convinced about is that your decision should be the same in both countries' situation.
 
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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

so if Celinas doesn't vote and you leave them IN the final, does the 11th place with higher average qualify too?
and it would be unfair if Greenfroze qualifies even though they do not vote.
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Ok! Then bothy entries are disqualified! Is that ok? As I said, I will not a punish a nation and not the other one! Either both are in, or both out!
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

LOL. Why do we have to randomly change the rules each time a situation arises? If they aren't able to vote they should try to find some other means but they know the consequences if they aren't able to complete their votes. I'd try to find another way to vote if I had that problem but if not I'd take the punishment cause it's not fair on others who have voted.
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Once I voted in FSC by SMS to Alexu because of my internet concetion, but I didn't need Internet conection to listen to the songs, while in NSC you can't listen to the songs without Internet....
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

We'll just have to wait whether or not they are going to vote.
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Internet cafes can be found even on the middle of Sahara Desert.

Ok, i'm staying shut up now.
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

I've had a busy week, mainly because I was involved in a car crash last Wednesday (nothing serious, don't worry, but my car got some damages), but I've now managed to vote. I thought the deadline was yesterday, but I guess I was lucky. :D
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Rest Jury deadline is over. I received voted from following nations:

Roseland
Pigeon Island
Kostanovia
Llama Republic
Rumia
Scorpionia
Bokia
Reym-L-Dneurb
Tir an Abhainn
Xorientia
Canedonia
Virgohronie
Waloria
Ugaly
Genext
Halito
Yaponesia
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Whatever decision we make, here is the thing I will do now! The deadline is extended until 22:15 CET for all nations!
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

Thanks for dealing with this well Lucian :D This situation is always really difficult, and tricky to solve, because most of NSC is divided on it >.>
But yes, all nations should understand that the rules are the rules, and that leniencies come as favours from the host :) It's a shame for people to lose their internet connection at the crucial moment, but I hope they can still find a way to vote. There's half an hour for them still!
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

They have almost 3 hours left to vote! If they don't vote Celinas gets disqualified and Greenfroze get 75 % penalty!
 

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Re: NSC 61 in Berceniland - Siamese Twins - SEMI 2 (Deadline - 6 December @ 20:00 CET

They have almost 3 hours left to vote! If they don't vote Celinas gets disqualified and Greenfroze get 75 % penalty!

Good decision Lucian, would be my decision too personally! :)
 
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