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Morocco MOROCCO 2014 - not taking part

PashonFrut

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

I'm more for Morocco entering the contest than Kazakhstan for example. But with Morocco entering we will have even more quarrels and drama on this forum... so maybe not :mrgreen:
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

One crucial question: how do you guys justify presence of:
-Israel
-Cyprus
-Armenia
in the contest?
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Morocco already participates many years (France, Belgium, Netherlands) :lol:


:lol:

... but really though... in what way may I ask? Loreen is born in Sweden... xshrug

Sure she is ethnically Moroccan (Berber to be exact), but considering she was born in Sweden, raised and lived her life here and also grew up in a mixed household with an ethnic Swedish stepfather, I'd say she's pretty much Swedish (or atleast partly) ;) ... it depends on what she defines herself as... xshrug
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Yes, okay, you have a point there. :cool: Not saying she is not Swedish, I was referring more to her ethnicity just for the fun of it.
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

One crucial question: how do you guys justify presence of:
-Israel
-Cyprus
-Armenia
in the contest?

Not sure what that has to do with Morocco?

But sure, if you want I can say my opinion on it:

- Israel : Has been an active member in this contest since the 1970's, way longer than many other countries. Only based on this alone, it would feel very awkward to suddenly say no to them. Also, Israel is already competing as part of Europe in various other events, mainly in Sport events, so entering ESC then doesn't feel so strange either in the case of Israel when looking at it like that. Geographically it's not that farer away from continental Europe than Cyprus is (that you also mentioned) or parts of Turkey and of course Eastern Russian parts, and politically/socially/culturally it could be considered a European country (afterall about half of its population are European immigrants).

- Cyprus : Well, the island belongs to the European Union (so atleast in the most political sense it's European), and it's practically the same people as Greece (which is a European country/nation). Also here it's been an active country in ESC for decades.

- Armenia : It's true it's not within the European continent, however it's a direct neighbor to continental Europe by land, also it surely belongs more to the European family in terms of culture, socially and politically, than it would belong to their Asian/Muslim neighbor countries. The situation is not like Israel's though, but there are some similarities. While they don't have as long history in ESC as Israel and Cyprus has, they have nevertheless been an active participant since its debut 2006 and in just some years time, this country will celebrate a decade in the contest (which is more than some continental European countries have entered), so they have been actively paying interest to the contest, which I think should at-least be acknowledged.

Now, compare those situations with Morocco, a country that doesn't belong to Europe geographically, nor culturally, socially and politically. They have entered this contest once, 33 years ago, and has since then not been showing much interest for the contest. Also it's still a question mark whether they would for instance apply to the rules (showing the Israeli participant, allowing TV to show light-dressed women and "gay-ish" behavior).

Now, I've got nothing personally against Morocco, I'm kind of indifferent tbh, and I do acknowledge the attachment to Europe they had historically (as a former colony) and that they are atleast somewhat a secular state (in comparison to others, although the Muslim Brotherhood influence is strengthening), but I still can't really see them in Eurovision, and imo it has mostly to do with the fact that it's not even partly within the European continent, not even a direct neighbor. Now, I know the EBU rules doesn't care about that, but since you asked for our personal opinions, well there you have mine.
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

This doesn't come as a shocker but the broadcaster announced that they would NOT return in 2014....better luck next time.
 

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You beaten me to it :lol:

SNRT even said does not rule out the idea of returning to the contest one day :eek:

I see they made a quite calm approach to esctoday to inform them
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Morocco will return, when Israel withdraw. That's all, so rather we will not see a Moroccan singer at Eurovision stage in 2014.
We didn't participate when Israel withdrew in 1984, 1994 and 1997. There is absolutely no relation
we withdrew after the bad result in 1980. Currently we aren't ready yet to participate again and moroccan braodcaster hasn't shown so much interest about participation next year. So I don't think we'll participate next year.
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

For Moroccco an another problem, si very expansive the quote of partecipation, Morocco is not poor but the tv prefere save the money.
An another problem , too much gay-lesbian kiss, an to many mini kilt for the singer, if Turkey have left esc for this reason, Morocco dont think take part, you heard for example Miss World it's moved to Jakarta for the same reason, for many musclim country show women'legs remain a tabu.
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

For Moroccco an another problem, si very expansive the quote of partecipation, Morocco is not poor but the tv prefere save the money.
An another problem , too much gay-lesbian kiss, an to many mini kilt for the singer, if Turkey have left esc for this reason, Morocco dont think take part, you heard for example Miss World it's moved to Jakarta for the same reason, for many musclim country show women'legs remain a tabu.

Sometimes I don't know what you are talking about...
 

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For Moroccco an another problem, si very expansive the quote of partecipation, Morocco is not poor but the tv prefere save the money.
An another problem , too much gay-lesbian kiss, an to many mini kilt for the singer, if Turkey have left esc for this reason, Morocco dont think take part, you heard for example Miss World it's moved to Jakarta for the same reason, for many musclim country show women'legs remain a tabu.

So...many...errors...
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014


This sooo old :lol:

I'm not really into this type of Moroccan music but somehow I kinda like this xthink

But after all this is a traditional cultural festival song and at the end which is a Fantasia where we have men on horses charging then shooting a gun aimed at the air symbolizes a strong relationship between the man and the horse.

Nowadays we use the music in harvest festivals celebrations and it reminds me of wedding music :lol: also they have Fantasia shows in High class Restaurants which is like £60 per person :p


 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Imagine Morocco entering ou of the blue with Loreen internally selected, winning with another 'Euphoria' and then disappear for like, 35 years!!
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Countries like Morocco in Eurovision? No thanks, Morocco is not Europe and it has a totally lack of human rights!!! If you are gay in Morocco you will go to prison, and we all know many Eurovision fans are LGTB people. For this reasons there should even not be a topic here about Morocco...
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Morocco is not Europe.

May I remind you that Eurovision has nothing to do with geography ? ;) And by the way, it's an inclusive contest : the final aim of the EBU is to make each and every of its members to participate to the ESC.
 

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Re: MOROCCO 2014

Countries like Morocco in Eurovision? No thanks, Morocco is not Europe and it has a totally lack of human rights!!! If you are gay in Morocco you will go to prison, and we all know many Eurovision fans are LGTB people. For this reasons there should even not be a topic here about Morocco...

Because we know how well LGBT people are treated in ex-USSR countries... I'm all for putting LGBT rights on the agenda, but this cannot be used as a criteria to exclude countries from the ESC, otherwise you'd have to ban Russia, Belarus and all the other countries that have made LGBT people their scapegoats in the last few years... Wait, that's actually a good idea!
 
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