Italy ITALY 2024 - Angelina Mango - La noia

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[nudiecrudi]

Me too. An incredible lack of culture.

It seems that you haven't enough music culture.
Booing and whistling is a tradition born during the Golden age of opera. The applause was a sign of success, booing and whistling a sign that the public didn't like it, mostly when an opera was presented for the firs time.
Still nowadays functions like this if a singer doesn't fit his/her role well.
Maira Callas has been booed because she didn't appear during a presentation in front of the italian president at Teatro dell'opera di Roma
So my dear this is culture.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

It seems that you haven't enough music culture.
Booing and whistling is a tradition born during the Golden age of opera. The applause was a sign of success, booing and whistling a sign that the public didn't like it, mostly when an opera was presented for the firs time.
Still nowadays functions like this if a singer doesn't fit his/her role well.
Maira Callas has been booed because she didn't appear during a presentation in front of the italian president at Teatro dell'opera di Roma
So my dear this is culture.

Exactly, I totally agree: Rossini and Verdi were booed aswell and they composed some of the greatest masterpieces in the history of opera. Why can't we boo Geolier if his first place is a fucking disgrace for almost the totality of Italian population? The boo's are deserved. @Alcatraz Just remember: the ultimate fruitor of a piece of artistry Is the public. If the public does not approve what the artist gives them It can disapprove the piece of art itself. Always has been so. You can't stand whistles and boos? Then being an artist Is not the right profession for you.

As I said, being crowned a Sanremo winner comes with responsabilities: the winner of Sanremo is seen as the ambassador of Italian music in the World for that specific year. After we re-entered Eurovision that responsability is even higher. So if Geolier can't stand those boos and those whistles, he is not ready to be a Sanremo winner in first place, full stop. If he is a winner, he does those stairs tonight and gives us his best performance ever, one that makes us forget everything and one we can really applaude. This will make him be a true Sanremo winner.

 

[njdevils94]

I know the solution.
Hi wins OK. All Napoli will celebrate his victory.
But he decides to leave the possibility to go to Esc to someone else. After receiving so much booing maybe he has changed his mind.

To be honest I don't agree with that. Even if Geolier isn't that convinceing of a perfomrer is a still a huge domestic hit and he if wins tonight fair enough. All the main contenders have pretty much already confirmed they would go to Eurovision any way so that is not going to be a problem. Geolier was very complimentary of Angelina and Annalisa's covers last night too.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

To be honest I don't agree with that. Even if Geolier isn't that convinceing of a perfomrer is a still a huge domestic hit and he if wins tonight fair enough. All the main contenders have pretty much already confirmed they would go to Eurovision any way so that is not going to be a problem. Geolier was very complimentary of Angelina and Annalisa's covers last night too.

The problem here Is not that, Is the 90% of Italian population being outruled because of a bloc voting. That is the problem. That song won't represent Italy but only a certain part of Italy and his population. The solution, the only one, is banning every regional language in Sanremo except obviously Italian. And I say this even if my favourite Sanremo song ever was sang half in Sardinian ("Spunta la luna dal monte" by Pierangelo Bertoli and Tazenda, a masterpiece I totally recommend to every single one of you. It's just a masterpiece). It's pretty harsh, I know, but it's the only solution. Otherwise we will have the same problems in the future...

 

[nudiecrudi]

To be honest I don't agree with that. Even if Geolier isn't that convinceing of a perfomrer is a still a huge domestic hit and he if wins tonight fair enough. All the main contenders have pretty much already confirmed they would go to Eurovision any way so that is not going to be a problem. Geolier was very complimentary of Angelina and Annalisa's covers last night too.

I don't have anything against him. I don't listen to his music so I can't say anything.
This is the first time I heard smth from him and personally his song is near my 15th place. I don't understand at all what he is singing about, his song has only two lines in Italian
I know he has no fault. But on the other hand I'm not only an Italian sanremo lover but also an ESC lover so undoubtedly my thoughts go in the direction of what he's going to do in Malmo in case.
Maybe my sensations are totally wrong but I feel that with him we could get a bottom 5 or even 0 points and with some other direct pretenders we could get an honorable top 10.

 

[rasmuslights]

The problem here Is not that, Is the 90% of Italian population being outruled because of a bloc voting. That is the problem. That song won't represent Italy but only a certain part of Italy and his population. The solution, the only one, is banning every regional language in Sanremo except obviously Italian. And I say this even if my favourite Sanremo song ever was sang half in Sardinian ("Spunta la luna dal monte" by Pierangelo Bertoli and Tazenda, a masterpiece I totally recommend to every single one of you. It's just a masterpiece). It's pretty harsh, I know, but it's the only solution. Otherwise we will have the same problems in the future...

I honestly agree. I hate when this happens. It also happened with Duje in Albania.

When a song doesn't win based on merit but based on nationalism.

 

[jatojo]

I didn’t get why Angelina chose that song as her cover. “La rondine” seems to me like a mess. And boring. No harm done to her chances of victory though - Annalisa didn’t impress (nor disappoint as such).

 

[njdevils94]

I don't have anything against him. I don't listen to his music so I can't say anything.
This is the first time I heard smth from him and personally his song is near my 15th place. I don't understand at all what he is singing about, his song has only two lines in Italian
I know he has no fault. But on the other hand I'm not only an Italian sanremo lover but also an ESC lover so undoubtedly my thoughts go in the direction of what he's going to do in Malmo in case.
Maybe my sensations are totally wrong but I feel that with him we could get a bottom 5 or even 0 points and with some other direct pretenders we could get an honorable top 10.

Nah, I think he'd do alright. Probably like top 10. Just wish he was a little better as a performer. It would once again be something totally different from Italy being sent to Sanremo and a very current domestic rap/trap sound that is very popular at the moment. My fingers remained crossed for Angelina of course who is my favorite but I'm not going to hate on Geolier.

 

[njdevils94]

I didn’t get why Angelina chose that song as her cover. “La rondine” seems to me like a mess. And boring. No harm done to her chances of victory though - Annalisa didn’t impress (nor disappoint as such).

She was covering on her late father's Pino's hit songs La rondine. It was a very emotional moment.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1756087752347492481

 

[JSSArcos]

Well, I never thought I'd have my favorite NF of the season with so much drama.

As a geographer, I find it amazing what's happening , the strength and unity of a region around a song and a singer. Although I think people should vote for the song and not for this factor. It's impressive the power of just one region!

As a Eurovision fan, I find it sad that among so many good songs, they chose Geolier. I don't hate the song (I don't hate any from Sanremo), but it's easily in my bottom 10 (Sanremo), and it would hardly rank well in my top by May.

Now...:
Italy: 59,236,213 inhabitants (Census 2021).
Campania: 5,624,260
Naples: 2,183,000 (2021)
*I apologize for any inaccuracies in the data, but these were the first figures I found.

The population of Campania corresponds to approximately 9.49% of Italy's total population, while the population of Naples accounts for about 3.69% of the total population of Italy.

Ok, Galicia managed to sweep the televote at Benidorm with Tanxugueiras. But comparing the scale of Benidorm to Sanremo is just ridiculous. If Geolier wins, only with the support of his province (Naples) as has been said here in the group, the rest of Italy is not voting enough, and let's not forget, the GDP of Northern Italy is several times higher than the South. Geolier will only win if he has a very high % of televotes.

Anyway, I just want to enjoy tonight's show (I advise everyone to follow this advice ). I think everything is up for grabs, and if Geolier wins by the end of the night, we have to admit that it's what the televote wanted, because we know that the press and radio jury will crush him. I'll be sad, but it's the popular will and that's the most important thing.

I think there needs to be respect for the winner who emerges tonight, but I see no problem with yesterday's booing; it just showed their discontent. They should vote en masse today to prevent this from happening, isn't it the upper class of Italy? Getting multiple SIMs should not be a problem for them.

Thank you, Italy and Sanremo, for a week of great quality and for the show I look forward to the most each year (even though unfortunately I don't always have time to watch the entire program).

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Nah, I think he'd do alright. Probably like top 10. Just wish he was a little better as a performer. It would once again be something totally different from Italy being sent to Sanremo and a very current domestic rap/trap sound that is very popular at the moment. My fingers remained crossed for Angelina of course who is my favorite but I'm not going to hate on Geolier.

Good, because we Italians probably will. Not Geolier, but his song, yeah...

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Well, I never thought I'd have my favorite NF of the season with so much drama.

As a geographer, I find it amazing what's happening , the strength and unity of a region around a song and a singer. Although I think people should vote for the song and not for this factor. It's impressive the power of just one region!

As a Eurovision fan, I find it sad that among so many good songs, they chose Geolier. I don't hate the song (I don't hate any from Sanremo), but it's easily in my bottom 10 (Sanremo), and it would hardly rank well in my top by May.

Now...:
Italy: 59,236,213 inhabitants (Census 2021).
Campania: 5,624,260
Naples: 2,183,000 (2021)
*I apologize for any inaccuracies in the data, but these were the first figures I found.

The population of Campania corresponds to approximately 9.49% of Italy's total population, while the population of Naples accounts for about 3.69% of the total population of Italy.

Ok, Galicia managed to sweep the televote at Benidorm with Tanxugueiras. But comparing the scale of Benidorm to Sanremo is just ridiculous. If Geolier wins, only with the support of his province (Naples) as has been said here in the group, the rest of Italy is not voting enough, and let's not forget, the GDP of Northern Italy is several times higher than the South. Geolier will only win if he has a very high % of televotes.

Anyway, I just want to enjoy tonight's show (I advise everyone to follow this advice ). I think everything is up for grabs, and if Geolier wins by the end of the night, we have to admit that it's what the televote wanted, because we know that the press and radio jury will crush him. I'll be sad, but it's the popular will and that's the most important thing.

I think there needs to be respect for the winner who emerges tonight, but I see no problem with yesterday's booing; it just showed their discontent. They should vote en masse today to prevent this from happening, isn't it the upper class of Italy? Getting multiple SIMs should not be a problem for them.

Thank you, Italy and Sanremo, for a week of great quality and for the show I look forward to the most each year (even though unfortunately I don't always have time to watch the entire program).

Only 12 million people watched Sanremo Yesterday. Probably around 4,5 million were from Campania and confinant regions. Neapolitans are the second agglomerate in all Italian regions. Hope this helps you understand why he is so strong in the televote

 

[rasmuslights]

Only 12 million people watched Sanremo Yesterday. Probably around 4,5 million were from Campania and confinant regions. Neapolitans are the second agglomerate on all Italian regions. Hope this helps you understand why he is so strong in the televote

Today a lot can change though.

And also https://twitter.com/sanremo_en/status/1756315490878919130 check out this thread.

 

[JSSArcos]

Only 12 million people watched Sanremo Yesterday. Probably around 4,5 million were from Campania and confinant regions. Neapolitans are the second agglomerate on all Italian regions. Hope this helps you understand why he is so strong in the televote

Thanks for your perspective; I just shared mine analytically (and without being an expert on the Sanremo audience of course). But my question is: what are you telling me is that almost "half" of Sanremo viewers are from Campania? Has it always been like this or is it just this year?

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

It's not just Naples voting for him though. A lot of people across Italy like the song clearly. I prefer it over Sinceramente to bee honest which I didn't expect coming into the festival.

Because many Italians from the South moved to the North

 

[sucof]

but it's not true that half of those who watch Sanremo are from Campania!

The analysis shows that the most "Sanremo" region in Italy is Molise, which brings home an average share of 76.1%. Followed by Tuscany which reaches a 64% share. Closing the special Sanremo audience podium is the Puglia region, confirming the primacy of the centre-south, with an average share of 63.7%, however losing 6.6 points compared to the first evening. The wooden medal goes to Sicily (62%, -4.9% vs prime time), the region of Fiorello, followed in this special certified ranking by Lazio (61.2%) and Liguria (60.8%) which obtains a good result being also the home of the Sanremo Festival. Below the 60% average share Marche (58.9% -8% vs prime time), Sardinia (58.2%), Campania (57.4% -7% vs prime time), Emilia Romagna (57.2% ), Umbria (56.1%), Valle d'Aosta (55.7%), Lombardy (54.8%), Abruzzo (54.4% -11% vs prime time), Calabria (54.3%, -5% vs prime time), Piedmont (54%, -5.3% vs prime time), Veneto (53.3%) and Friuli Venezia Giulia (51%). Last positions for Basilicata which loses 15 percentage points compared to the first evening (48.5%) and for the more distant Trentino Alto Adige (37.1%). The monitoring, being very elaborate, will be further updated tomorrow.

 

[JSSArcos]

but it's not true that half of those who watch Sanremo are from Campania!

The analysis shows that the most "Sanremo" region in Italy is Molise, which brings home an average share of 76.1%. Followed by Tuscany which reaches a 64% share. Closing the special Sanremo audience podium is the Puglia region, confirming the primacy of the centre-south, with an average share of 63.7%, however losing 6.6 points compared to the first evening. The wooden medal goes to Sicily (62%, -4.9% vs prime time), the region of Fiorello, followed in this special certified ranking by Lazio (61.2%) and Liguria (60.8%) which obtains a good result being also the home of the Sanremo Festival. Below the 60% average share Marche (58.9% -8% vs prime time), Sardinia (58.2%), Campania (57.4% -7% vs prime time), Emilia Romagna (57.2% ), Umbria (56.1%), Valle d'Aosta (55.7%), Lombardy (54.8%), Abruzzo (54.4% -11% vs prime time), Calabria (54.3%, -5% vs prime time), Piedmont (54%, -5.3% vs prime time), Veneto (53.3%) and Friuli Venezia Giulia (51%). Last positions for Basilicata which loses 15 percentage points compared to the first evening (48.5%) and for the more distant Trentino Alto Adige (37.1%). The monitoring, being very elaborate, will be further updated tomorrow.

Thank you very much for the information, interesting data to analyze.

 

[njdevils94]

Night 1 was just too chaotic so I couldn't make a full ranking off first listen of all 30 songs but was able to rank Night 2 and 3 with them separated. Will try to make an overall one by next week. Night 2 was definitely the stronger half. Angelina, Clara, Fred De Palma, Rose Villain and The Kolors are my top 5 of Sanremo 2024 (I think. Alfa is close to 5th). So many other strong songs though in one of the best Sanremo Festivals I can remember. 2017 was the first year I watched but have seen a few other editions in the 10's as well.

Night 2 Rankings
1. Clara - Diamanti Grezzi
2. Fred de Palma - Il cielo non ci vuole
3. The Kolors - Una ragazzo, una ragazza
4. Alfa - Vai!
5. Geolier - I p' me, tu p' te
6. Mahmood - Tuta Gold
7. BigMama - La rabbia non ti basta
8. Dargen D'Amico - Onda alta
9. Irama - Tu no
10. Annalisa - Sinceramente
11. Emma - Apnea
12. Il Volo - Capolavoro
13. Gazzelle - Tutto qui
14. Loredana Bertè - Pazza
15. Francesco Renga and Nek - Pazzo di te


Night 3 Rankings
1. Angelina Mango - La noia
2. Rose Villain - Click Boom!
3. Mr. Rain - Due altalene
4. Alessandra Amoroso - Fino a qui
5. Fiorella Mannoia - Mariposa
6. Diodato - Ti muovi
7. Santi Francesi - L’amore in Bocca
8. Il Tre - Fragili
9. Bnkr44 - Governo punk
10. Ricchi e Poveri - Ma non tutta la vita
11. Negramaro - Ricominciamo tutto
12. La Sad - Autodistrutivo
13. Sangiovanni - Finiscimi
14. Ghali - Casa mia
15. Mannini - Spettacolare

 

[sucof]

Eurovision is missing this magic!
last night was a magical evening, but this performance is art!
The singers, the orchestra, the lights, the scenography...... and the lyrics!

Dream, Kid, Dream​

And they’ll say to you words as red as blood
Black as night
But it is not true, kid
That might is right
I know poets
That move rivers with their thoughts
And infinite sailors
That know how to speak with the sky
Close your eyes, kid
And believe only what you see inside
Clench your fists, kid
Don’t let them be the winner for even a moment
Cover up your love, kid
But don’t hide it under a cloak
Sometimes someone passes
Sometimes that someone needs to see it

Dream, kid, dream
When the wind rises
In your heart’s paths
When a man lives
For his words
Or doesn’t live anymore

Dream, kid, dream
Don’t leave it alone against this world
Don’t let it go, dream till the end
Do it also for yourself

Dream, kid, dream
When the wind falls but doesn’t end
When a man dies for the same life
That you dream of

Dream, kid, dream
Don’t change a line of your song
Don’t leave a train standing still at the station
Don’t stop yourself

Let them say that in this world
Those like you will always lose
Because you have already won, I promise
And they can’t do anything to you
Every so often, pass a hand
Over a face of a woman, there pass fingers
No kingdom is as great
As this little thing that is life

And life is so strong
That it goes through walls in order to be seen
Life is so true
That is seems impossible to have to leave it
Life is so great
That when you know you are on the point of death
You plant an olive tree
Convinced still that you will see it flower

Dream, kid, dream
When she turns
When she doesn’t return
When the only step
That stops the heart
You can’t it hear anymore

Dream, kid, dream
The days will pass
Love will pass
The nights will pass
The pain will end
You will always be you

Dream, kid, dream
Little one
In my memory
So many times
In this history
I don’t count you anymore
Dream, kid, dream
You have left a piece
On my desk
Missing only a line
This poem
You can finish yourself

 

[BarefootBoogaloo]

I'm deluded and still hoping for a shock Ghali win tonight.