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Well, It seems we have a winner, hooray to him... He will be the most booed winner of all time, so I please him to enjoy the moment because his career Is defo over after this (if he wins and goes to Eurovision he will be MASSACRED by everyone, expecially the press) but Neapolitans don't care, did they? He will be the Jalisse of 2024 or so It seems, with one exception: Jalisse had a song, Geolier has not. Radios are quite snubbing him already: in the past three days I actually listened only three times his song on radio stations, the others are way more popular, even La Sad or Ricchi e Poveri for example were more listened. Neapolitans are slowly digging Geolier a grave and still they don't seem to understand this. Atm he Is the most hated artist in Italy, without that being even his fault: as I said he Is a good guy, that's why I hope he doesn't win. Winning Sanremo is no Joke, It comes with responsability: you can leave Ariston stronger, but you can leave It weaker, a lot weaker, than when you entered. This will be Geolier's case.
 
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He has no chance to win in the superfinal. Annalisa and Angelina Mango entries are far stronger and juries will tank him so much in the superfinal that his televote will not even help him.
I hope you are right ... if he is going to win though, it would be a disaster. I wonder how he would do in May.
 

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Italians treating Geolier like he did something worse than Il Volo, and I struggle to see why are y'all THAT hard on him? 😭 Is it because he's so everywhere, and that the Neapolitan overratedness kicked into gear? Like c'mon, he didn't deserve to win the cover night while Angelina Mango paying a tribute to her late father who died roughly 10 years ago was right there. But let's face it. "I p' me, tu p' te" is not the worst song in history of mankind. In fact I prefer it better than "Cenere"...

If it is going to end Italy's era of good results, well, at least this should make Sanremo people think!
 

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Italians treating Geolier like he did something worse than Il Volo, and I struggle to see why are y'all THAT hard on him? 😭 Is it because he's so everywhere, and that the Neapolitan overratedness kicked into gear? Like c'mon, he didn't deserve to win the cover night while Angelina Mango paying a tribute to her late father who died roughly 10 years ago was right there. But let's face it. "I p' me, tu p' te" is not the worst song in history of mankind. In fact I prefer it better than "Cenere"...

If it is going to end Italy's era of good results, well, at least this should make Sanremo people think!

Nope. We have nothing against Geolier, we are angry with people voting him only for his birthplace and rightfully so. Sanremo is a SONG festival, not a CITY contest of some kind. Are you against bloc voting in Eurovision? Well, this Is worse than bloc voting, actually.
 
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Nope. We have nothing against Geolier, we are angry with people voting him only for his birthplace and rightfully so. Sanremo is a SONG festival, not a CITY contest of some kind. Are you against Bloc voting in Eurovision? Well, this Is worse than bloc voting, actually.
I mean city/region bias is everywhere, just look at Benidorm Fest 2022 results...

True, the Neapolitan diaspora is annoying and hard to avoid - a thing I learned from Sanremo Giovani 2020. But in my opinion, that song is my favourite. And in a year where I was upset I didn't have a real massive favourite, something had to click... and it ended up being that. Not the most proud choice ever, but it is what it is.
 

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It is going to be a long long day and evening until we will discover the winner
I dont know what to think, im feeling like invested by a huge truck.
Is it going to be the first and only year im not going to root for my country?
Am i going to live this nightmare?
 

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I mean city/region bias is everywhere, just look at Benidorm Fest 2022 results...

True, the Neapolitan diaspora is annoying and hard to avoid - a thing I learned from Sanremo Giovani 2020. But in my opinion, that song is my favourite. And in a year where I was upset I didn't have a real massive favourite, something had to click... and it ended up being that. Not the most proud choice ever, but it is what it is.

Good for you. Let's just say you are in the minority, but I respect your opinion. In my opinion that song can and will finish last in Eurovision, I would not care and obviously I would not root for It.

PS: this would have some consequences even for Rai: Geolier winning means Eurovision and next Sanremo audience will plummet.
 

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It is going to be a long long day and evening until we will discover the winner
I dont know what to think, im feeling like invested by a huge truck.
Is it going to be the first and only year im not going to root for my country?
Am i going to live this nightmare?

The only hope we have are Angelina, Annalisa, Mahmood and Irama fans coalizing against a song and bloc voting for the higher one in the rankings, like what happen in 2021 when they various fandoms of other artists that didn't make the cut pushed Måneskin and Fedez/Michielin against what was considered to be a clear Ermal Meta win after the cover night. If Neapolitans are bloc voting, the rest of Italy can do the same.

RTL 102.5 speakers by the way are embarassed: Geolier Is receving critics from all over the country. As I said, if he wins and decides to go to Eurovision his career in the national market is probably doomed: he will become nothing more than a regional hero and he will be loathed by everyone else and he has to thank only his corregionals for this.

It's not even his fault poor guy: he Is in a competition just like everyone else and like everyone else he had a chance of victory since the beginning. I feel bad for him, because It will be hard in the next few months if he'd win. But tbh, his song will be marred as the worst song or One of the worst songs to have ever won Sanremo and that clearly isn't good when you are doing music.
 
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what a nightmare, if Geolier wins tomorrow night Ariston will collapse and a controversy will break out in Italy that will last months! Let's get ready with Salvini! 😂
 

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My final thoughts on this year's San Remo Festival finale. I'll highlight the favorites for the win (or those I believe will make it to the grand finale, in no particular order).

Mahmood: I have to admit that I like the song more, but it's not at the level of "Soldi" at all, though for my taste, it is much better than "Brividi" (I didn't like the latter at all). Given what has happened in the various "seratas," his chances of winning are slim. I give it a 7/10.

Annalisa: For me, she would be the fairest winner of the Festival, and it annoys me that she won't achieve it given the voting in previous shows. A current song, great stage presence, very good vocally... The song is on loop for me, and if Italy sends her, it will be my favorite Italian song since 2013 (I clearly like it a lot). I give her a 10/10.

Angelina: I have mixed feelings about her. On one hand, the studio version is well-produced, different, and stands out. But live, it falls a bit flat for me. I don't doubt she's a good performer, but in my opinion, vocally she's not at the level of others, and as a song, I don't see it doing well at Eurovision. She'll probably go, and if so, I find it hard to see Italy entering the top 10 this year. I give her a 7/10, and that's for the studio version.

Irama: for me, another one of the many ballads that have won San Remo in previous years. Very good vocally but as a song, it doesn't bring anything new. I give it a 5/10.

Geolier: well, I honestly don't understand why there's so much criticism of this song, I find it quite decent, and the fact that he sings in dialect makes it more interesting (it would be the first time for Italy, right?). It's possible that he'll sweep the televote, but the specialized press won't allow him to win. It's too far removed from the essence of the festival, although you never know, remember that Maneskin won in 2021. I give it a 7/10.

With that said, my vote goes to Annalisa. If Geolier or Angelina win, it won't be a huge drama, although overall, the level this year has been slightly below other years.

See you tonight discussing the Grand Finale!
 

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given that eurovision 2024 looks like a taco fest, do fans still want a woman to represent italy? :LOL:xthink
 

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The juries must bury this "bad winner" by Geolier. The Neapolitan fandom is the most uniform and agitated in Italy but can be contrasted by the fandoms of Irama, Annalisa and Mahmood + the talent lovers/fans with hearts of gold for Angelina and by the elderly/music purists who will vote for Il Volo. However, the juries will inevitably have to eliminate some fandoms to make the vote less fragmented in the final or the compact Neapolitan front (as cohesive as the Galician one for the Tanxu) will prevail. Mahmood fans need to vote for Irama or vice versa. The same thing goes for Angelina and Annalisa. If both are in the Top 5 they will hinder each other. That's why I saw the resurgence of Ghali and Il Volo and the unknown of Berté. Beneath the surface, a musical war of alliances and political plots is being fought in Sanremo.
 

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Angelina: I have mixed feelings about her. On one hand, the studio version is well-produced, different, and stands out. But live, it falls a bit flat for me. I don't doubt she's a good performer, but in my opinion, vocally she's not at the level of others, and as a song, I don't see it doing well at Eurovision. She'll probably go, and if so, I find it hard to see Italy entering the top 10 this year. I give her a 7/10, and that's for the studio version.
I dont want to be hursh. Its not the right moment.
But guy are you deaf?
Did you hear how she sung during the covers night? All the criticts in various press reviews have agreed that her vocal interpretation
has been icredible and the lowest vote was an 8.
Please, its ok if you dont like the song ect ect but vocally the girl is fantastic
just to refresh your memory here is the link.

https://youtu.be/6xwVRZDyvh8?si=haDkulsxXbWgLRvo
 

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It is going to be a long long day and evening until we will discover the winner
I dont know what to think, im feeling like invested by a huge truck.
Is it going to be the first and only year im not going to root for my country?
Am i going to live this nightmare?

This is pure poetry
 

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I liked 'La Noia' on its debut at the Prima Serata for being quite quirky and different but my appreciation hasn't held across the week so I don't see Angelina as the great saviour or alternative to Geolier landsliding it either. I just can't see her finishing in the top ten at Eurovision which in itself would be seen as a flop.

I've possibly been spoilt with previous San Remo results as four out of the last five winners have been my personal favourite of the line up and that personal bond lasted into the ESC in which I deemed Italy the best entry at the contest also. I fear tonight will produce my least favourite, and most infuriating, winner since Gabbani.

There's undoubtedly a change in San Remo this year but trying to satisfy the Wiwiblogs type contingent of fans with female bops ultimately wont do much for San Remo or Italy's chances at Eurovision. The songs are momentarily satisfying but unlikely to endure as 'classics'.

Whilst my favourites this year do include some of these such songs, Clara and Annalisa, I'm not sure I see them as strong competitors at ESC. If this year we are to we skew our preference for what wins San Remo purely in terms of top ten success at Eurovision then better to be safe and predictable with Mahmood, Irama or even Il Volo.
 
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