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You'll have a taste tomorrow with La Rondine.
About being at the right level to win Sanremo, even Mahmood wasn't.
So please don't bring me examples that dont stand.
Are you talking about Mango? From what little I know he was a singer with an almost Balkan voice. He had a gift of nature that Angelina cannot match at the moment.

Angelina's voice is probably worse than it seems because she sings with the Trap accents that are very popular in Italy. If she sings using a powerful hidden voice to the fullest I will be the first to take back my words.

However, don't take "La Rondine" as an example. Angelina will do well because she is a tribute to her father. Her possible victory is not indicative.

Mahmood, who has the voice (he is not someone with a powerful voice but a "modulator"), with "Soldi" did not need to possess the voice of Michael Bolton from the golden days.

My examples are thoughtful.
 

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she was slightly out of breath because of the dancing. she's more talented than 90% of the artists that go to Eurovision.
So you realized he was in oxygen debt? I am happy. It seems like I'm bad but I actually tell it like it is. The legend that there are untalented singers at Eurovision is not true. I saw divas dancing and singing with the physical outfit of a sports athlete. I'm not saying that Angelina can't reach Eurovision in future, I'm just saying that some Italians are burdening her with expectations now.
 

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Are you talking about Mango? From what little I know he was a singer with an almost Balkan voice. He had a gift of nature that Angelina cannot match at the moment.

Angelina's voice is probably worse than it seems because she sings with the Trap accents that are very popular in Italy. If she sings using a powerful hidden voice to the fullest I will be the first to take back my words.

However, don't take "La Rondine" as an example. Angelina will do well because she is a tribute to her father. Her possible victory is not indicative.

Mahmood, who has the voice (he is not someone with a powerful voice but a "modulator"), with "Soldi" did not need to possess the voice of Michael Bolton from the golden days.

My examples are thoughtful.
So in 2019 you really thought Mahmood was winning SanRemo coming from the newcomers?
None was expecting him to win.
So about being mature enough I think your thoughtful example don't stand.
Here a link where she sings Se telefonando di Mina, isnt complete but you could imagine how she sings

 

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So in 2019 you really thought Mahmood was winning SanRemo coming from the newcomers?
None was expecting him to win.
So about being mature enough I think your thoughtful example don't stand.
Here a link where she sings Se telefonando di Mina, isnt complete but you could imagine how she sings

Hmm... Okay. An improvement however is not that I saw this voice capable of brushing hair but a delicate modulation that allows it not to be stretched more than necessary. "Se Telefonando", sung as it should, by Mina is not an easy song even for a vocally gifted singer.
 

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So you realized he was in oxygen debt? I am happy. It seems like I'm bad but I actually tell it like it is. The legend that there are untalented singers at Eurovision is not true. I saw divas dancing and singing with the physical outfit of a sports athlete. I'm not saying that Angelina can't reach Eurovision in future, I'm just saying that some Italians are burdening her with expectations now.
We have the same expectations that you spanish fans had for a voiceless diva with such a stupid song, a message that only you spaniards are eating, and even with a worse staging.
Even without hearing the songs weeks ago you're saying that Annalisa and Angelina weren't worthy for a Sanremo win.
 

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So in 2019 you really thought Mahmood was winning SanRemo coming from the newcomers?
None was expecting him to win.
So about being mature enough I think your thoughtful example don't stand.
Here a link where she sings Se telefonando di Mina, isnt complete but you could imagine how she sings

Regarding Mahmood, yes. I immediately thought he would win. He had a fresh and destabilizing voice that stood out from the crowd.
 

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Regarding Mahmood, yes. I immediately thought he would win. He had a fresh and destabilizing voice that stood out from the crowd.

Consider some recreational betting, he had <1% to win in the odds before the final night :) Most people were genuinely surprised when it happened. Except for Rainy who felt at least some satisfaction in compensation for Loredana :D
 

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We have the same expectations that you spanish fans had for a voiceless diva with such a stupid song, a message that only you spaniards are eating, and even with a worse staging.
Even without hearing the songs weeks ago you're saying that Annalisa and Angelina weren't worthy for a Sanremo win.
Why offend Nebulossa? Spain chose its representative following in the wake of Rosa Chemical which Italy did not believe. There is irreverence in "Zorra" and it has a message of her own. Then if you want me to admit that it is being promoted by the Spanish left, yes it's true.

Nebulossa aside, Angelina had no voice tonight. We've seen it. I don't mind Annalisa but she has a basic song. That's all.

I might even find fault with Irama but these are cleverly hidden. Vocal excellences, I'll give some examples, are Il Volo and, in her own way, Mahmood.
 

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Why offend Nebulossa? Spain chose its representative following in the wake of Rosa Chemical which Italy did not believe. There is irreverence in "Zorra" and it has a message of her own. Then if you want me to admit that it is being promoted by the Spanish left, yes it's true.

Nebulossa aside, Angelina had no voice tonight. We've seen it. I don't mind Annalisa but she has a basic song. That's all.

I might even find fault with Irama but these are cleverly hidden. Vocal excellences, I'll give some examples, are Il Volo and, in her own way, Mahmood.
I'm not offending Nebulosa.
I said she is voiceless and that is objective.
To me the song is stupid, this is subjective.
We didnt want Rosa but we got Marco Mengoni and we know how it finished.
If Annalisa's song is basic, La Zorra isn't a song at all, just a random mix of sound and casually words
 

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Night 2 was stronger. However there are some gems tonight too. My favorites: Angelina Mango, Ricchi e Poveri, Il Tre.
 
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