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Italy ITALY 2022 - Mahmood and Blanco - Brividi

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    79 31.9%
  • 10

    30 12.1%
  • 8

    22 8.9%
  • 7

    24 9.7%
  • 6

    19 7.7%
  • 5

    17 6.9%
  • 4

    17 6.9%
  • 3

    8 3.2%
  • 2

    4 1.6%
  • 1

    4 1.6%
  • 0

    24 9.7%

  • Total voters
    248

escYOUnited

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Ho sognato di volare con te
Su una bici di diamanti
Mi hai detto: "Sei cambiato, non vedo
Più la luce nei tuoi occhi"

La tua paura cos'è?
Un mare dove non tocchi mai
Anche se il sesso non è
La via di fuga dal fondo

Dai, non scappare da qui
Non lasciarmi così
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Tu, che mi svegli il mattino
Tu, che sporchi il letto di vino
Tu, che mi mordi la pelle
Con i tuoi occhi da vipera

E tu, sei il contrario di un angelo
E tu, sei come un pugile all'angolo
E tu scappi da qui, mi lasci così

Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Dimmi che non ho ragione
E vivo dentro una prigione
E provo a restarti vicino
Ma scusa se poi mando tutto a puttane e

Non so dirti ciò che provo, è un mio limite
Per un "ti amo" ho mischiato droghe e lacrime
Questo veleno che ci sputiamo ogni giorno
Io non lo voglio più addosso

Lo vedi, sono qui
Su una bici di diamanti, uno fra tanti
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi​
 
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Ana Raquel

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Exactly. The same thing we all said about Albanian entry. The fact that there are elements of traditional sound, rapping and then a cut through to the Swedish pop refrain, doesn't make it better, but more messy.

Also, this is a result of an artist trying to please everyone's taste.

It's a complete opposite to the last year's winner and what all respected about them, regardless of whether they liked them - authenticity / stay true to yourself.
But that's kind of Ronela's signature? She always mixes ups traditional sounds with other styles of uptempo pop music. It might make her music messier, but it doesn't make her less authentic
 

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Now if you judge basing on your personal taste I respect your opinion but with this message your entering with some technical analysis about the structure of the song.
I don't thing your technical valuation is correct at all.
Virale is an ok song with a simple structure and sweet interpretation. That's it. Nothing more. I can understand you're deluded because your preferred song didn't win but denigrating Brividi is a bit too much in my opinion.
The song is complex. Has many elements. Solo singing.falsetto, harmonization, rapping, rhythm changing, a capella when they sing without music at the end of the song. What do you want more?
Have you heard the song?
Because I doubt in your technical skills to evaluate a song?.
Oh silly me, obviously I should have gotten a master's degree in music before sharing my thoughts, thank you for enlightening me :rolleyes: If you re-read my post, I never stated that 'Brividi' was not complex and I definitely never said that 'Virale' was more so, but rather that I find the latter more arresting. If you doubt my technical skills to evaluate a song, I doubt yours to evaluate a forum post. At the end of the day, a song can be as complex as can be with all the different vocal elements you can think of, but that doesn't make it definitively good. The only delusion here is that 'Brividi' is somehow above criticism because it has a non-standard arrangement.
 

nudiecrudi

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but this just feels like a damp squib. It's such a shame because there were songs on offer that would've been my #1, for example 'Virale' is probably my favourite song of this entire Eurovision season so far, another song with a complex structure and difficult vocal arrangement but one that I find so much more arresting than 'Brividi'.
 

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I think Italy will finally break the curse of host country doing poorly in the final. I know many songs are yet to be out and it's too early to make a prediction, but I expect something like lower half of top 10 for them (mostly owing to the fact that many people still remember Mahmood from 2019, he enjoyed fame across Europe after ESC)

I think it's so unfortunate that he didn't participate with something more authentic, just anything from his 2019 or 2021 album would have been a contender for the win. However, I don't see Brividi winning the contest at all. Just imagine all winners of the past decade, this would be as dull as 'Running Scared' among them.
 

Ana Raquel

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? He just said Virale's arrangement impresses him more/is more his cup of tea?

You guys know you can agree that a song can be well produced/well composed/well arranged yet still dislike it? 🤡

Eg i hate arcade more than I hate the entire nation of Italy (according to lovecraft) but i never denied that it's a well-produced song. However, in spite of being well-produced, i still hear a bunch of dying cats fight whenever he OOOOOOOOOOOHS and it makes my blood boil every time.
 

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yeah, it's indeed a well-produced material and surely will have lots of supporters, the melody is beautiful, but I personally have an issue with Mahmood's voice... I'm just not into it.

He's a great performer though and probably will deservedly do well in Turin, along with Blanco, I just had another hope for a host entry.

:4:
 

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If you think I'm too harsh, you should really check the Balkan ESC forums today. Mahmood got nicknamed Blah-mood. That has been his new alias for this entire week. 🤣
isn't that the shortened version of Blanco and Mahmood? I've seen people who liked the song using the same nickname. it's either that or blancood, or some other weird combinations.
 

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It is a very pretty song but too much of a stereotypical ballad for my liking already.

I vastly preferred a very dynamic 'Ciao Ciao' but it was clear pretty early already it will not win San Remo.


I think Brividi should do very well in the GF but this time Mahmood will not get close to snatching a victory. I can see something like 4th to 9th place.
 
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isn't that the shortened version of Blanco and Mahmood? I've seen people who liked the song using the same nickname. it's either that or blancood, or some other weird combinations.

It's only conveniently the same. 🤣 Those who like the song accepted the nickname, because in the Balkans, we accept mocking what we like. It's an important part of culture. We prefer keeping the sense of reality and do not get offended easily.

Now I'll do justice to Brividi as I did to SloMo and rate it. 🤣

1. Melody - simple melodic line of a ballad, standard for songs like that. No melodic changes or other types of innovations, nothing distinguishable from others.

3/10

2. Lyrics - are nice, well written, cover a topic in an honest and touching way.

9/10

3. Vocals - 2 very average male vocals, at moments even uncomfortable to hear.

Clearly not the jury winners, the juries will place them worse than Må who came 4th with juries. Mahmood's 2019 record with the juries will not be repeated as back then he had been evaluated in the context of the genre he presented then. Meaning they gave him some slack back then. This time they will not.

2/10

4. Stage presence - it worked great in small Ariston hall having that intimate atmosphere, but Mahmood had a horrible staging in 2019 ESC. The man who did Må's staging last year was Sony's hired agent, so I still fear that Mahmood gonna have the same 2019 team again with him in 2022.

For those hilarious bycicles I'm deducting 2 pts and we have 5/10

5. Impact on the ESC and the message sent - it's a love ballad from Italy performed by a former contestant for whom many still have respect and are sorry he didn't win in 2019. The song will be overhyped, Mahmood will be generously welcomed, and the lyrics and their presence as a male duet loved by some LGBT community.

The issue here is that it may also appear as cheap, in the sense "Let's serve gays some gay". Blanco especially poses too many Q's (IDC for his girlfriend, we're talking here as if Blanco didn't know what people gonna say after they see Sanremo performance and the video. He accepted to play that card, why would we grieve over his "poor girlfriend". Whatever....).

For the inconsistency of the message sent, and the fact that Italy hasn't been capable to produce a new artist for the ESC, in this segment - 5/10

Overall score: 4.5 - 5. A five.
 

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It seems we all watched different Eurovision in 2019, I really don't understand why so many people find Italian staging in 2019 bad, it was really cool. To me. :sneaky:
 

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It's only conveniently the same. 🤣 Those who like the song accepted the nickname, because in the Balkans, we accept mocking what we like. It's an important part of culture. We prefer keeping the sense of reality and do not get offended easily.

Now I'll do justice to Brividi as I did to SloMo and rate it. 🤣

1. Melody - simple melodic line of a ballad, standard for songs like that. No melodic changes or other types of innovations, nothing distinguishable from others.

3/10

2. Lyrics - are nice, well written, cover a topic in an honest and touching way.

9/10

3. Vocals - 2 very average male vocals, at moments even uncomfortable to hear.

Clearly not the jury winners, the juries will place them worse than Må who came 4th with juries. Mahmood's 2019 record with the juries will not be repeated as back then he had been evaluated in the context of the genre he presented then. Meaning they gave him some slack back then. This time they will not.

2/10

4. Stage presence - it worked great in small Ariston hall having that intimate atmosphere, but Mahmood had a horrible staging in 2019 ESC. The man who did Må's staging last year was Sony's hired agent, so I still fear that Mahmood gonna have the same 2019 team again with him in 2022.

For those hilarious bycicles I'm deducting 2 pts and we have 5/10

5. Impact on the ESC and the message sent - it's a love ballad from Italy performed by a former contestant for whom many still have respect and are sorry he didn't win in 2019. The song will be overhyped, Mahmood will be generously welcomed, and the lyrics and their presence as a male duet loved by some LGBT community.

The issue here is that it may also appear as cheap, in the sense "Let's serve gays some gay". Blanco especially poses too many Q's (IDC for his girlfriend, we're talking here as if Blanco didn't know what people gonna say after they see Sanremo performance and the video. He accepted to play that card, why would we grieve over his "poor girlfriend". Whatever....).

For the inconsistency of the message sent, and the fact that Italy hasn't been capable to produce a new artist for the ESC, in this segment - 5/10

Overall score: 4.5 - 5. A five.

Polly Polly can you do one deeper analysis for Irama? Loved reading this:cool:
 
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Well. Mahmood was one of the inital people I was excited for when the names were released, he has many great songs i've enjoyed and in 2019 he was among one of my favourites of the entire year. That said, Brividi is far from one his best (i'm intentionally leaving Blanco out on this part as I know nothing of him to judge beforehand) which leaves me somewhat disappointed. The song isn't particularly special tbh, the production is good sure and I can see what they're trying to 'show' but the song is very bog standard Italian ballad and if you're into that then great, but i've been exposed to enough Italian ballads on the internet that they just don't hit the same. I do like their performance live though, they clearly have chemistry together and with that live show it's a better experience. Obviously this is going to do well, and Italy needn't worry at all about the hosts curse but this is by no means among their best, its far from their worst either. I'm gonna go with a :6:.
 
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