Italy ITALY 2022 - Mahmood and Blanco - Brividi

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Ho sognato di volare con te
Su una bici di diamanti
Mi hai detto: "Sei cambiato, non vedo
Più la luce nei tuoi occhi"

La tua paura cos'è?
Un mare dove non tocchi mai
Anche se il sesso non è
La via di fuga dal fondo

Dai, non scappare da qui
Non lasciarmi così
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Tu, che mi svegli il mattino
Tu, che sporchi il letto di vino
Tu, che mi mordi la pelle
Con i tuoi occhi da vipera

E tu, sei il contrario di un angelo
E tu, sei come un pugile all'angolo
E tu scappi da qui, mi lasci così

Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Dimmi che non ho ragione
E vivo dentro una prigione
E provo a restarti vicino
Ma scusa se poi mando tutto a puttane e

Non so dirti ciò che provo, è un mio limite
Per un "ti amo" ho mischiato droghe e lacrime
Questo veleno che ci sputiamo ogni giorno
Io non lo voglio più addosso

Lo vedi, sono qui
Su una bici di diamanti, uno fra tanti
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi​

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[mauve]

You and Mahmood won´t be friends in this lifetime anymore right??

I don't think so ... I didn't like "Soldi", but could at least see the refreshing, innovative side of the song, even though it just wasn't my thing. But in "Brividi" all I see is a bland song. I really don't understand why people go crazy over it. But what do I know? I usually like more songs apart from mainstream.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Mahmood always struck me as ''I'm a bit too cool for this Eurovision gig''. I say that with as much love as possible. It could be that he would absolutely love saying no to representing Italy on home soil

 

[RainyWoods]

Well, I don't dislike the song but then I'm not a fan either. This is the first time since 2016 that I haven't either loved or at the very least liked an Italian entry. You've treated me well over the past few years and so I don't think I can complain. I think the Brividi performance is decent, although they'll have to do it without autotune at Eurovision (why are so many Sanremo ballads drowned in the stuff nowadays?). The song is ok. Mahmood and Blanco have chemistry. Soldi for me was an easy 10/10 and refreshing Sanremo winner. Brividi sadly pales in comparison but it won't be the worst song of the year by any stretch. It just feels rather mid and expected.

Here's a fair points and best of luck with hosting I'm sure it will be wonderful.

 

[ESC94]

I don't think so ... I didn't like "Soldi", but could at least see the refreshing, innovative side of the song, even though it just wasn't my thing. But in "Brividi" all I see is a bland song. I really don't understand why people go crazy over it. But what do I know? I usually like more songs apart from mainstream.

Don´t worry, I have the same feeling with 1958 and 2015, especially the latters big televote win is and will always be a huge mystery to me.


And who knows?? Maybe it´ll grow on you a bit, and your aren´t really bad either.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Well, I don't dislike the song but then I'm not a fan either. This is the first time since 2016 that I haven't either loved or at the very least liked an Italian entry. You've treated me well over the past few years and so I don't think I can complain. I think the Brividi performance is decent, although they'll have to do it without autotune at Eurovision (why are so many Sanremo ballads drowned in the stuff nowadays?). The song is ok. Mahmood and Blanco have chemistry. Soldi for me was an easy 10/10 and refreshing Sanremo winner. Brividi sadly pales in comparison but it won't be the worst song of the year by any stretch. It just feels rather mid and expected.

Here's a fair points and best of luck with hosting I'm sure it will be wonderful.

Always very balanced and sincere words. Thanks Rainy. Only note on autotune; it didn't seem very present to me. Blanco made use of it to a limited extent. The problem is not the use of autotune (which can also open up new compositional frontiers, new nuances so to speak) but the abuse (even worse if used to cover up the defects of a bad voice).

I hope the UK can bring a great representative to Turin and, who knows, win and bring the ESC back to the UK.

 

[Ezio]

Mahmood always struck me as ''I'm a bit too cool for this Eurovision gig''. I say that with as much love as possible. It could be that he would absolutely love saying no to representing Italy on home soil

He strikes me as a sensitive boy with helluva lot to deal with and he is frickin creative

 

[RainyWoods]

Always very balanced and sincere words. Thanks Rainy. Only note on autotune; it didn't seem very present to me. Blanco made use of it to a limited extent. The problem is not the use of autotune (which can also open up new compositional frontiers, new nuances so to speak) but the abuse (even worse if used to cover up the defects of a bad voice).

I hope the UK can bring a great representative to Turin and, who knows, win and bring the ESC back to the UK.

Yes, the autotune was certainly more subtle in Brividi but still there. On the one hand I like how it's allowed as it is a tool that many artists use today as a stylistic choice in their music. On the other I think it's often jarring when combined with some ballads and as you mentioned, it can also be used to cover up bad vocals. There's no doubt Irama has a strong voice so I don't understand the decision to sing his song with autotune that makes him turn into a robot, adding a cold, artificial touch to the piece. It's a stylistic choice obviously (unless a vocalist really is trying to cover up their vocal imperfections) but it doesn't usually appeal to me.

Spain's Luna Ki should have come to Sanremo instead of Ana Mena. She could have had all the autotune in the world

I've reached the point now where I simply don't care about my own country anymore. I'll believe in us only when I see something worth believing in. I honestly get quite jealous watching Sanremo each year. It's such a beautiful show and celebration of your artists, and culture. Long live Sanremo!

 

[Mainshow]

Most People here hate every Sweden sends, just because its Sweden.

I don´t think this is true at all.
Back in the day, fans - especially OGAE members - highly praised Sweden´s entry despite them not really being successful in Eurovision (2008/2009/2010) - Also, Sweden has always been quite high/winning OGAE votes or Second Chance Contests.

I can only speak for myself but I have just been recently fed up with Sweden choosing quite generic and bland entries and still getting shitloads of jury points. Wasn´t it just last year that Sweden got a much higher rank by the televoters than from the juries? (and it was quite remarking and striking since it usually doesn´t happen) After quite some editions...

If Sweden comes up with another "Euphoria" or even "Popular"/"Hero/Undo", I´m pretty sure that it will be quite "universally liked" among fans and forums members alike.
Furthmore, Sweden would have been this forum´s favourite (or one of the favourites) IF they had chosen "Bulletproof" in 2020 and "Every Minute" in 2021. - Half-baked wannabe gospel-ish pop songs with cheesy and lazily-written lyrics simply don´t attract a lot of Eurovision fans.

 

[theCONWEL]

A big fat meh and Italy's worst entry since their return in 2011. I hate to sound clichéd but this wouldn't be receiving anywhere near the amount of hype its getting if it was sent by pretty much any other country, yet because it's Italy it's the best thing since sliced bread. There were so many better songs in Sanremo this year, even Elisa's which I wasn't a huge fan of, so I'm really disappointed yet not surprised.

 

[ESC94]

I don´t think this is true at all.
Back in the day, fans - especially OGAE members - highly praised Sweden´s entry despite them not really being successful in Eurovision (2008/2009/2010) - Also, Sweden has always been quite high/winning OGAE votes or Second Chance Contests.

I can only speak for myself but I have just been recently fed up with Sweden choosing quite generic and bland entries and still getting shitloads of jury points. Wasn´t it last year that Sweden got a much higher rank by the televoters than from the juries? After quite some editions...

If Sweden comes up with another "Euphoria" or even "Popular"/"Hero", I´m pretty sure that it will be quite "universally liked" among fans and forums members alike.
Furthmore, Sweden would have been this forum´s favourite (or one of the favourites) IF they had chosen "Bulletproof" in 2020 and "Every Minute" in 2021. - Half-baked wannabe gospel-ish pop songs with cheesy and lazily-written lyrics simply don´t attract a lot of Eurovision fans.

I agree with you 100 %. Some fans can´t accept that some of us don´t see as the holy ESC country where milk and honey flow.

 

[dannytr24]

Not bad, but already overrated by bookmakers.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Worst of "La Mia Città" and "No Degree of Separation"? I respect your tastes and I also take your good words for constructive criticism but I don't think a "meh song" is placed at No. 6 on Spotify Global. The songs, as happened last year, must be evaluated over time. "Zitti e Buoni" for some was a horrible, meaningless, obscene, violent and full of monkey screams in heat. Now it is the spearhead of the ESC. The structure of "Brividi" is complex (it is a difficult song to sing due to its many vocal nuances), the feeling between the two singers must be taken into consideration and it must be borne in mind that Italy from 2011 to today has brought genres and musical constructions one different from the other.

That said, we are not the opponents to beat. We will enjoy the host country role and try to get our now beloved "Top 10". Nothing more. Then ... if fate wants Italy to win ... I predict that pharmacies will do good business! They will sell a lot of gastroprotectors!

 

[Realest]

I don´t think this is true at all.
Back in the day, fans - especially OGAE members - highly praised Sweden´s entry despite them not really being successful in Eurovision (2008/2009/2010) - Also, Sweden has always been quite high/winning OGAE votes or Second Chance Contests.

I can only speak for myself but I have just been recently fed up with Sweden choosing quite generic and bland entries and still getting shitloads of jury points. Wasn´t it just last year that Sweden got a much higher rank by the televoters than from the juries? (and it was quite remarking and striking since it usually doesn´t happen) After quite some editions...

If Sweden comes up with another "Euphoria" or even "Popular"/"Hero/Undo", I´m pretty sure that it will be quite "universally liked" among fans and forums members alike.
Furthmore, Sweden would have been this forum´s favourite (or one of the favourites) IF they had chosen "Bulletproof" in 2020 and "Every Minute" in 2021. - Half-baked wannabe gospel-ish pop songs with cheesy and lazily-written lyrics simply don´t attract a lot of Eurovision fans.

So you think, Songs like "If I were Sorry", "I cant go on", "Dance you off", "Move" and "Voices" would get more 0s than 12s in the Forumpoll even if they represented an Underdogcountry? Interesting.

 

[Mainshow]

I agree with you 100 %. Some fans can´t accept that some of us don´t see as the holy ESC country where milk and honey flow.

Thanks! - I mean, we also have to keep in mind that and are very competitive countries but personally, I see a huge difference here: Winning Sanremo is really different to winning Melodifestivalen. The former wins televoting and jury votes alike without having Eurovision in mind. The winners truly represent the taste in music of the general public whereas the latter sometimes tries really hard to attract Eurovision fans/juries and the Swedish music scene isn´t really represented in Melodifestivalen (that´s something many Swedish forum members also level criticism at in this very forum as well).
doesn´t automatically submit the best Eurovision entries and I also believe that they are not well-received in Eurovision and pre-generated fan rankings because "It´s Italy. They sing in Italian." - The Italian entries are just authentic, honest, genuine products which are universally liked due to their produciton/composition value.

Like @H.P. Lovecraft has previously pointed out, Italy can also get negative reviews by fans. We were able to notice that a lot when Maneskin got crowned as the winner of Sanremo.

I´m not going to neglect that the Italian language may sound "more melodic" than - let´s say - Ukrainian or Croatian to most ears (personally, I like Slavic languages more) but if someone doesn´t like a song, the language can´t really make you think otherwise.
But saying that "Brividi" is just liked because it´s Italy or Italian is "too easy" - I think that quite some Eurovision fans appreciate honesty, authenticity these days and Italy is one of the best countries in Eurovision to provide these qualities to us wheares the latest Swedish entries sounded like formulaic, artificial products which could have won American idol.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

So you think, Songs like "If I were Sorry", "I cant go on", "Dance you off", "Move" and "Voices" would get more 0s than 12s in the Forumpoll even if they represented an Underdogcountry? Interesting.

“Dance you off” came, if I am not mistaken, 23rd in the televoting ranking and ... can any of you explain to me where the strength of “Voices” lies? The song is not bad but it is a beautifully wrapped gift package. No emotion, no innovation.

 

[Realest]

“Dance you off” came, if I am not mistaken, 23rd in the televoting ranking and ... can any of you explain to me where the strength of “Voices” lies? The song is not bad but it is a beautifully wrapped gift package. No emotion, no innovation.

Still no Songs that should get more 0s than 12s and Tons of negative Comments. We had Songs from Underdogcountries who stayed in the Semi and were hyped unbearably.

 

[goncalovieira]

Italy is the newest Eurovision powerhouse.
I am convinced that after this year's edition, they will start the process.

 

[Mainshow]

So you think, Songs like "If I were Sorry", "I cant go on", "Dance you off", "Move" and "Voices" would get more 0s than 12s in the Forumpoll even if they represented an Underdogcountry? Interesting.

No. Since the poll doesn´t represent the "overall" attitude towards Sweden by Eurovision fans.

Do you know what I think? - Melodifestivalen is such a huge event in the Eurovision season. Some fans even prefer it to the actual Eurovision Song Contest and all of them have different favourites and IF their favourite act doesn´t win, they like to massively downgrade the winner.

Also, there´s some sort of inflation of and on this forum. Spain 2018 got more than anything else as well whereas received a shitload of (and they didn´t even qualify).

I wish there was an option to just let users take part in the polls AFTER making a post in the same thread.
My post was more about the "general attitude" I - as an individual - perceived from posts being made on this forum and social media as well as comments uttered at the monthy Eurovision meetings I attend or when I attended Eurovision live from 2011 to 2015.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Still no Songs that should get more 0s than 12s and Tons of negative Comments. We had Songs from Underdogcountries who stayed in the Semi and were hyped unbearably.

I have never written that I am from 0 and to be despised only that, I am not talking about Italy, which with better songs have obtained less.

 

[VikingTiger]

I am very happy to see Mahmood back in the ESC. And I am quite satisfied with his partner as well. I have followed Mahmood's music after Soldi, and I've truely loved several of his hits; Barrio being my absolute favourite amongst his singles. And Klan is also right down my alley.
Brividi is not so much to my liking. I can apprecialte the qualities of the song, but that does not really help when it's not awakening any special feelings in me. But the two men's live performance is definitely a big plus.
All in all I am landing on a 7 for the package. Which is (much) lower that my usual points for Italy.
Another solid entry for Italy. A top 10 is definitely within reach, although Brividi wont make it to my personal top 10.