Italy ITALY 2020 - Diodato - Fai rumore

[escYOUnited]

 

[Alaska49]

12 million on youtube is actually low compared to il volo and the last three winners lol

 

[Nemo89]

12 million on youtube is actually low compared to il volo and the last three winners lol

Is Sanremo less than a month old and do you consider listening numbers low? Wait a few more months and wait for the ESC to start and you will see the numbers skyrocket. This is not true for Diodato but for every song. "Il Volo", you must consider that compared to Diodato, they are a group created specifically by Italy to make them travel around the world singing and reinterpreting Italian music. It is normal for people abroad to know more about "Il Volo" (not to forget that they participated well before Diodato in the ESC). Try other theories ... they are weak. The judge may prove you right

 

[Alaska49]

why are italian fans so insecure about diodato this year? nobody can point out a peep that isn't good about hin without being met by such an unintelligible wall of defensiveness. do they deep down know the song is weak for eurovision, or have they built themselves an Austrian Bubble Of Delusion? the austrians do it better, they barely get out of their thread now.

 

[Nemo89]

why are italian fans so insecure about diodato this year? nobody can point out a peep that isn't good about hin without being met by such an unintelligible wall of defensiveness. do they deep down know the song is weak for eurovision, or have they built themselves an Austrian Bubble Of Delusion? the austrians do it better, they barely get out of their thread now.

What?! Are we afraid? We Italians, even if we don't win, always feel like the winners before starting a race. Observe the visualizations, and the comments and you can understand that the fear is not ours but that of someone else. When reading bad and acidic comments it is normal to answer and explain our reasons (moreover not only we Italians but also other music lovers have responded politely and logically to these statements), don't you think? For example, I put information on the sales and views of Diodato and you replied to my post saying "You Italians are afraid", "Diodato has made fewer views than the other singers", "LOL" and you have also included the Austrians in the speech... I don't know the Austrian singer this year but I liked Nathan Trent very much in 2017 and Cesar Sampson was also strong. Do you know music or use it as a vehicle to talk nonsense?

 

[Kaz]

Upgraded this from a 7 to a 10. It's such an endearing song and I wish Italy will receive another top 10 this year.

 

[mauve]

Many songs are so weak this year that this song is a pearl!

 

[Nemo89]

Upgraded this from a 7 to a 10. It's such an endearing song and I wish Italy will receive another top 10 this year.

Thanks Kaz. The song of Diodato conquers with time. I explained this to some members of the forum who judged "at first glance" and without knowing all the songs in the competition. It is easy, when we think that way, to fall victims to captivating but empty sounds. ESC is a musical marathon. The songs that in all these months will have the strength to keep their emotions intact will win victory. Diodato has his chance to make a great performance and to reach the "Top 10" then ... if he wins, we Italian will be happy!

 

[andreaaaaa]

I really like this song, beautiful and emotional, 10 points for now but maybe I will change it to 12 later, who knows.

 

[ayzelto]

I never thought it could grow on me but I have just upgraded it from 6 to 8. It’s classy, emotional and powerful. It won’t get even close to the top places but top 10? Maybe.

 

[Nemo89]

I never thought it could grow on me but I have just upgraded it from 6 to 8. It’s classy, emotional and powerful. It won’t get even close to the top places but top 10? Maybe.

Thanks for the nice words. Be careful of only one thing: this song is dangerous. You just admitted that you changed your mind about this song. Diodato's song surprised us Italians who thought of Gabbani as the winner. This is the strength of a song, that of growing inside us. Instead others that immediately conquer us then disappear from our hearts. It is like the difference between true love and a simple infatuation. Think about it.

 

[Nemo89]

Did you know? An excerpt from an online article.

"Diodato musical career began abroad. Specifically in Stockholm, where he takes part in a compilation lounge singing the song "Libiri" (ie "Liberi" but crippled by the producers) with the Swedish DJs Sebastian Ingrosso and Steve Angello, the future Swedish House Mafia"

 

[CypriotGirl]

This is a typical Italian ballad. This of course is not a bad thing. I find it a safe choice. Songs like this have a wide appeal. I like it, but I'm not crazy about it (at least for now).

 

[Nemo89]

This is a typical Italian ballad. This of course is not a bad thing. I find it a safe choice. Songs like this have a wide appeal. I like it, but I'm not crazy about it (at least for now).

Thank you for your balanced words, however, I would like to understand ... why do you insist on talking about "typical Italian ballad"? What do you mean by "typical Italian ballad"?

Meanwhile, let's define what "ballad" means in modern times: "In pop, folk and jazz music, ballad is a song with a slow tempo". Well! Including this, what kind of ballad would you approach "Fai rumore"? Pop? good CypriotGirl! You are an excellent student Having written this, I ask you, which genre between Folk, Jazz and Pop is typically Italian? Do you mean "Italian ballad because there is a contamination of our songwriting method? Let's go on ...

Now let's try to understand the singer-songwriter Diodato. These are his words about "Fai rumore":

"I listened to English pop rock and therefore that thing there is now part of my DNA and has mixed with the Italian DNA, even with a certain classicism, that of the classic Italian songwriter song and therefore this mix I think is something of which to be proud. I am very proud of it and I am happy when they tell me. "

Read this you can understand some things:

-) when you say that the Italian song has a "certain typicality" it is correct. Classic influence is present in the song but it is only part of the song's DNA.
-) If the song has a mixture of Italian and English DNA, the "typicality" in a general and unique sense is lost, it does not exist. It is a music that has contaminations. Many members of the United Kingdom understood this while others pretended not to understand it (I don't want to believe that some of them can ignore the enormous baggage donated by their musical movement).

Now, I want to analyze together with you, my dear student, the songs that Italy from 1990 to today has brought to the ESC:

1990: Toto Cutugno "Insieme: 1992" (Pop rock)
1991: Peppino di Capri "Comme è ddoce 'o mare" (Neapolitan melody)
1992: Mia Martini "Rapsodia" (Pop)
1993: Enrico Ruggeri "Sole d'Europa" (Rock)
1997: Jalisse "Fiumi di parole" (Synth Pop)
2011: Raphael Gualazzi "Follia d'amore / Madness of Love" (Pop / Jazz)
2012: Nina Zilli "L'amore è femmina / Out of Love" (Rythm and Blues)
2013: Marco Mengoni "L''essenziale" (Pop) (2)
2014: Emma Marrone "La mia città" (Pop Rock)
2015: Il Volo “Grande amore" (Operatic Pop)
2016: Francesca Michielin "Nessun grado di separazione / No degree of separation" (Pop) (3)
2017: Francesco Gabbani "Occidenti's Karma" (Elettropop)
2018: Ermal Meta & Moro "Non mi avete fatto niente" (Folk / Pop)
2019: Mahmood "Soldi" (Contemporary R&B)

So, from what you can actually see, that you can see, Italy has brought a different genre every year except for Pop thrice (Martini / Mengoni / Michielin). That the typical "Italian Ballad" is the Pop genre?

Please ... you win whoever you want but enough to say nonsense or there is a risk that you demonstrate a lack of culture, fear and a clear desire for your nation to win

I greet you by writing the explanation of our song: According to Diodato's words "In" Fai Rumore "there is the torment of a man who wants to live his love, longs for oblivion, but ends up resigned to the fact that any action, any thought always turns to the heart of his feeling. An absence that becomes presence, a silence so deafening that it makes noise, this is the sweet and melancholic poetry sung on the stage of the Ariston: "What are you making noise here and not I know if it is good for me, if your noise suits me "

 

[mauve]

@Nemo89 You could be a great teacher!

 

[Nemo89]

@Nemo89 You could be a great teacher!

No! I feel like the lonely and grouchy master Pai Mei!

Anyway, I love music What many do not understand is that my comments are not for Italy but for good music. Also, as a person I hate "talking without knowing" and rudeness (CypriotGirl hasn't been rude. I recognize this ). Instead here people love to label without knowing and maybe they do it because in the chaos their theses have a value.

What should we do Mauve? You and I were the only dreamers in this dark world! We like to live true emotions without lies and recognize things for what they are

 

[mauve]

@Nemo89 A world without dreams is empty and lonely. And I for my part love reading your posts because you have a warm heart. And it's great to share dreams and knowledge about music.

 

[lacrymea]

@Nemo89

My favorite song this year is the Italian one. It has been since it first got out and will continue so till the end, as I'm completely and emotionally invested in it.

Having said that... Can i give you a small piece of advice? Trying to make everyone love it or giving extended observations on why people should love it can be off putting. And while trying to do good, you're probably doing just the opposite without even realizing.

People like what they like.

 

[Nemo89]

@Nemo89 A world without dreams is empty and lonely. And I for my part love reading your posts because you have a warm heart. And it's great to share dreams and knowledge about music.

Maybe the are are just an excuse to overcome this sense of emptiness, incomplete and coldness. I love to dream, I don't want to be pessimistic like Lovecraft but romantic like my great teacher Goethe.

I thank you for the nice words. I always try to express my way of being through words.

I am happy to have met some people like you here who love music and who through their words let sincerity shine through.

 

[Nemo89]

@Nemo89

My favorite song this year is the Italian one. It has been since it first got out and will continue so till the end, as I'm completely and emotionally invested in it.

Having said that... Can i give you a small piece of advice? Trying to make everyone love it or giving extended observations on why people should love it can be off putting. And while trying to do good, you're probably doing just the opposite without even realizing.

People like what they like.

Lacrymea appreciate your passion and affection for "Fai rumore"

I know very well that I should do as many EscYOUnited members: agree with general thinking and be friendly. This is great for getting friendships (false) and better votes (maybe). But this is not my goal, I am not teaching anyone to love Diodato, I accept the tastes of others and anyone can win for me. At the end of the day, a prize or an acknowledgment is a small thing for me. I love music and music criticism (serious). In this case, to respond to a common stereotype, an inaccuracy, I shared my knowledge. I would like people to vote for the songs because those notes excite them (there is no need to label other people's songs with bizarre concepts).

 

[lavieenrose]

Congratulations Italy on retaining your spot in my top 10 tonight! It was under serious threat but MISTAKES WERE MADE. Going to go listen to San Marino now though so stay tuned.

(yes, I am taking my salt to the Italian thread -_-)