Israel ISRAEL 2024 - Eden Golan - Hurricane

[ESC United Mod Team]

Please keep discussion in this thread specific to Eden Golan and her song, Israel's (potential) participation in Eurovision 2024 and discussions or remarks from other countries and organisations about Israel's participation.

Any further discussion of a political or humanitarian nature not relating to specifically Israel in Eurovision 2024 needs to go into the politics sub-forum. Thank you!​

 

[Israeliboy]

I think with North Macedonia in 2019, that was the perfect jury bait song. I knew it could do very well with the juries if they staged it perfectly and they actually did. "Proud" deserved that success imo, great message and Tamara did an amazing job. Also loved it when the UK jury gave 12 points to North Macedonia too.
Anyway so when I say perfect jury bait song, if you look at previous Eurovision winners from the start, a solo female singing a slow song with a fantastic vocal performance, juries love this. It's why I think Luxembourg and Ireland have so many Eurovision winners.

I'm looking forward to hearing Israel's song, Eden is going to face a lot of hostility but I'm sure she's a strong person and she will do Israel proud.

North Macedonia 2019 was amazing! It sounded great in the arena.

 

[Jupiter]

Well, I'm honestly glad I can say that that leak is genuinely weak to me. The worst kind of song to me are soulless mid-tempo ballads, with generic lyrics and unoriginal compositions, blatantly looking to draw emotions without an ounce of knowing what emotions actually are. And this leak sounds like that. Truely written for the Disney Channel. The final Version might be better still, so I won't judge yet. But that leak would be a clear bottom 5 for me anyway. And it's definitely weaker IMO than Belgiums entry, the rumored Armenian one (that is a ballad) and still weaker then "Hollow" too IMO. I don't think it'll stand out that much for being a ballad in semi 2 at this point either. But well, they might stage it well, and ofc... politics.

And Edens voice is nice, but I still don't think it's anything too special looking at our existing singers line-up.

 

[gigi_copp3]

This sounds so 2015

 

[crashworld]

Shall not listen to the leak and wait for the official version.
Plus, you never know, they could always alter the arrangement after getting genuine feedback, not the first time or last time someone did this.

 

[Magimixer]

Anti Jewish behaviour has been on the rise across Europe since October, it doesn't even matter if they are Israeli, pro israel or the opposite. If someone wanted to do something at eurovision they'd probably research and i don't think it would take them long to learn that tali is Israeli and has a brother in the IDF. The twitter crowd have been vocal. Now keep in mind the fact that she's Jewish is enough, this will more than paint a target on her head. And a smart person would work out she's the easier target, so I sincerely hope they are taking her security seriously.

Regarding Tali, I'm really concerned too. I don't think Luxembourg is at all equipped to secure her safety. RTL has been total shit at communicating (adopting a "if we don't say anything it will just go away" strategy ) and seems to have left her to fend on her own. I am pretty sure they have nothing in place to assure her security or have even thought about it. Plus, let's not forget that the RTL Eurovision team has no real idea of what they are facing - they've been gone for over 30 years and seem totally disconnected.

Tali comes across as extremely level-headed and sincere, including when she talks about Israel and about being Jewish, like in this article that came out yesterday: https://www.tageblatt.lu/kultur/bye...-identity-antisemitism-and-final-adjustments/

But yes, unfortunately I think she will have a really hard time with part of the ESC fans, and I hate all this.
I've been in crowds were there was booing directed against one person, and it's a terrible, heart wrenching experience. Especially when the target has absolutely nothing to do with whatever the people are booing about. Bullying at its worst.

Also, I'm not at all sure Sweden is able to secure anyone's security. Hasn't Malmö been overrun by gang wars this past year? And let's not forget Copenhagen is just next door – and they have also had their share of terrorist acts.

 

[4815162342]

Am I confusing Crystal Ball ESC with someone else? Wasnt that the person that (after leaking all kind of stuff) made a tweet last year, deleted it immediately and then a few mins later the official Eurovision account twittered the exact same thing? Looked like the person forgot to switch accounts. Googling it I cant find a single info.. damn does this feel weird.

Imagine thinking it was someone from the EBU and then reading this tweet from Crystal Ball ESC leaking Israel saying:

This is their song 'Hurricane' that Kan will officially present tonight, so you don't have to give them or their official upload a view
Free Palestine

 

[crashworld]

The song is on Spotify. Already available for listening in NZ/Australia. Waiting my end to hit 12 midnight so I can have my first listen.

 

[crashworld]

OK! Finally managed to listen to the official version via Spotify.

I agree, it's a very Americanized pop ballad that Demi Lovato would have released back in the day (when she is still releasing decent pop music). It's a pity that there is very minimal typical Israeli musical influence in the production.
The ending with Hebrew threw me off a little and somehow felt a little unnecessary. Would have preferred it in full-blown English.
They should record one in a full Hebrew version though.

I am not a big fan of the song overall on first listen, but I really like Eden's voice. She is definitely the selling point here. I can see her perform the song with full conviction. And so far, I don't think we have a mainstream pop ballad in the contest. It's a decent effort from Israel. Giving this a once the poll is up.

Lyrics to "Hurricane" (based on what I can gather):

Lighter(?) of my symphony
Play with me
Look into my eyes and see
People walk away but never say goodbye

Someone stole the moon tonight
Took my light
Everything is black and white
Who’s the fool who told you
Boys don’t cry

[Pre-Chorus]
Hours and hours and powers
Life is no game but it's ours
While(?) the time goes wild

[Chorus]
Every day I’m losing my mind
Holding on in this mysterious ride
Dancing in the storm
I got nothing to hide
Take it all and leave the world behind
Baby promise me you'd hold me again
I’m still broken from this hurricane
This hurricane

Living in a fantasy
Ecstasy
Everything is meant to be
We shall pass but love will never die

[Pre-Chorus]
[Chorus]
[Hebrew Ending]

 

[Loindici]

The leak is real.

 

[Realest]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

 

[Israeliboy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

Amazing how ppl try so hard...without even know some basic facts about the situation, but yay "I'm brainwashed, I don't wanna be left alone"

 

[han-g]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

Were people really asking them to exclude it?

 

[Israeliboy]

Were people really asking them to exclude it?

Yup, they really lost it!

 

[MopManMoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

God people complaining about this stuff drive me mad, so many people calling for boycott but then they keep tweeting about NFs and esc stuff like what is it?

Do I wish Israel wasn't in eurovision? Yes. But they are and that's the reality, doing things like asking esc scoreboard to remove a participating country is pathetic.

Don't get me started on the bullshit tali has been getting to, its ridiculous

 

[DirtyFalcon]

If the song is so amazing and jury friendly, do you see juries still voting for it in the final if she qualify ? Or will she get tanked only for political reasons ? I've also seen someone on a facebook group saying that Hurricane as a song is of the same caliber as Sound of Silence in 2016 (based on the leak). I don't know if the person was serious or not but i can't believe i've read that. If you're here can you explain us why please ? Thank you !

 

[RainyWoods]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

These kinds of people must be tremendous fun at parties.

 

[bazinga]

I lost so many braincells browsing through the comments of the above tweet. Peak level of stupidity

 

[Rocket man]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

These protesters are becoming a parody now. I just find them ridiculous and hilarious.

 

[Leydan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766803045982097800

Tell me you're a chronically online Twitter Eurofan without telling me you're a chronically online Twitter Eurofan

 

[crashworld]

If the song is so amazing and jury friendly, do you see juries still voting for it in the final if she qualify ? Or will she get tanked only for political reasons ? I've also seen someone on a facebook group saying that Hurricane as a song is of the same caliber as Sound of Silence in 2016 (based on the leak). I don't know if the person was serious or not but i can't believe i've read that. If you're here can you explain us why please ? Thank you !

"Sound of Silence" is not the strongest song out there, let's be honest. Dami did the heavy lifting.
As for "Hurricane", I liken it to Demi Lovato's "Skyscraper" (but perhaps a poorer version). I also think Eden will do the heavy lifting.

We really don't know how the juries are going to vote. If we are assuming they are likely left-leaning like most of arts & entertainment people are, then probably they will blank Israel just to send a political message.

Anyway, I think the Israeli delegation also has no high expectations on the results.

Personally, I don't have high hopes. I am just happy they can participate and if they proceed to qualify to the Grand Final, then I think it's an achievement for them considering how widespread the anti-Israel sentiments are within the contest and in general.