Ireland IRELAND 2023 - Wild Youth - We Are One

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Mainshow]

My mother absolutely adores and the guys in my Eurovision group (we usually meet once a month) like it as well... I think it´s a very anthemic pop song with slight rock influences... fans of Coldplay, One Direction might like this entry.

It´s very generic and bland but I don´t think it´s chanceless, tbh.

 

[Iker]

did u enjoy connollys live performance? i think every little spark the song had was gone. so i don't mind they did not choose it.

The song itself though was considerably more interesting imho. Her live performance was not strong, but apparently this was her first gig! I think she definitely could have improved come May, Rosa Linn was in a similar situation when she was chosen for Armenia except it was an internal choice.

 

[Datura]

The song itself though was considerably more interesting imho. Her live performance was not strong, but apparently this was her first gig! I think she definitely could have improved come May, Rosa Linn was in a similar situation when she was chosen for Armenia except it was an internal choice.

i agree about the song itself, but i imagined the whole staging to be totally different. like u didnt have to do a lot, just small things like different outfit choices, the movements, not THAT dark... i think the song has a very different vibe when u only hear it.
but yea i didn't know it basically was her first performance, if i keep that in mind it wasn't that bad and her vocals towards the end were pretty good too.

btw no surprise they deactivated the comments function on youtube for all the performances.

 

[Mainshow]

After tragic NF the betting odds seem to stabilise again. Ireland even climbed "back" too #13. It´s still to high (thinking of all the British bookies) but dunno, 2019 "Storm" was #3 in TELEVOTING and "New Tomorrow" was #4 in TELEVOTING in 2011)... thus, "We Are One" is not chanceless at all.

 

[12Pointsgoto.....]

And the winner of the worst national final and biggest shitshow of the season goes to...

 

[Datura]

On behalf of Ireland. I apologise for this mess. RTE is horrifically out of touch and just doesn't care. We have so much talent in this country, as a smaller European nation we produce some of the finest singers, artists and actors in the world but watching RTE you'd think we have the worst artistic culture in the world. Ireland has so much impact on music for its size much like Sweden but RTE don't care about Eurovision.

I hope we come last in the semi. We deserve to. RTE should see how bad they are until it finally hits them they need to modernise. Pathetic.

Look at the Oscars this year, so much irish success. I can bet if RTE had a monopoly on who gets to be an actor in ireland, we'd have eurosong standard actors haha.

It's shameful how they get around 500 to 700 songs each year submitted and they always pick 5 or 6 crap ones. There's no way in hell there wasn't way better options amongst the ones they threw away. It sickens me.

i'm not really that familiar with the irish music scene but tell me are the styles they choose for the national final somehow representative for whats going on or not at all?
to me it seems they have a similiar approach as austria has, they don't show the real music scene, they think they need to send something suitable for eurovision. and i think that approach is dated.

what reputation does eurovision have in ireland and how do artists see it?
in austria it's pretty hard to find established artists who want to do it, it was definitely better after conchita won but the choices ORF made (and therefor the results) are turning people off again. (there are always a few interesting songs and artists in the internal preselections but ORF doesn't give them a chance)

 

[Realest]

Adgy and Conolly flopped live, so I cant say their Victory is undeserved.
Id still prefer the Hawaii Song.
5 Points.

 

[Mainshow]

in austria it's pretty hard to find established artists who want to do it, it was definitely better after conchita won but the choices ORF made (and therefor the results) are turning people off again. (there are always a few interesting songs and artists in the internal preselections but ORF doesn't give them a chance)

Visions of Atlantis, Serenity.... probably one of the most successful and well-established Austrian acts right now.

That´s simply not true.. ORF just needs to grow some balls and has to start thinking out of the box

 

[ag89]

The song is ok, but I cannot understand this selection, it looked so poor in that tiny studio.

 

[Shaney1995]

We do indeed. Songwise, it was a better NF than 2017 - but these (vocal) performances I had to witness yesterday... it really should put all Irish people to shame, imo. It was the worst NF in Eurovision history.

It really was the worst I have ever seen, I'm Irish and stand by that. I hope RTE see this discussion thread, though I doubt they even research online opinions of entries each year or what the fandom say. They are old idiots throwing knives from 2001 in the dark. Id be amazed if Ireland win eurovision at any point in the next 5 or 6 years. Its gonna take huge change at RTE which will require massive internal evolution and new blood brought in thats younger and living in the 2020s not the early 2000s

 

[marty]

Everything is said. This really is a very bad entry again from Ireland. I give 1 point.

 

[Shaney1995]

i'm not really that familiar with the irish music scene but tell me are the styles they choose for the national final somehow representative for whats going on or not at all?
to me it seems they have a similiar approach as austria has, they don't show the real music scene, they think they need to send something suitable for eurovision. and i think that approach is dated.

what reputation does eurovision have in ireland and how do artists see it?
in austria it's pretty hard to find established artists who want to do it, it was definitely better after conchita won but the choices ORF made (and therefor the results) are turning people off again. (there are always a few interesting songs and artists in the internal preselections but ORF doesn't give them a chance)

Not at all. Irish music these days, tends to be more techno, dance, and theres still a huge popularity of indie-ish. Connolly was probably most reflective of modern trends and would have walked it if not for Wild Youth getting selected as an act. Wild Youth are very popular here amongst teens etc, but their music is usually more dance and pop-rock. This was not at all what people actually expected from Wild Youth. In fact, id bet they were advised badly to make this radio friendly, one direction style song about equality as some higher up said thats what Eurovision is (as they probably are mentally in 2009).



This is a more typical Wild Youth song

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Inhaler are by comparison another rising young band here with a future probably beyond Ireland

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Heres a few young singers slowly rising here, some already having some success nationally and also in the UK, reflective of the general mood. I wont bother adding big names like Hozier, Niall Horan etc as they are well known and probably wayyy to big to ever consider ESC. Dermot Kennedy below is already quite succesful and has also had hits in the UK

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[94ayd]

Could be better with a different vocalist - .

 

[MooseShoes]

After tragic NF the betting odds seem to stabilise again. Ireland even climbed "back" to #13. It´s still to high (thinking of all the British bookies) but dunno, 2019 "Storm" was #3 in TELEVOTING and "New Tomorrow" was #4 in TELEVOTING in 2011)... thus, "We Are One" is not chanceless at all.

Definitely. I wouldn't put money on it, but it's not unthinkable that it could join the club of songs clogging up the lower reaches of fans' rankings but which go on to at least make the final. The general poor quality of the national final is clouding people's judgement to a small extent, and it's more the delegation that don't deserve to qualify rather than the song itself. Highly doubt it'll be in my Top 26, though.

 

[Mainshow]

As long as Alessandra doesn´t win tonight, I can totally see "We Are One" being the opener of semi final 1

 

[Datura]

Visions of Atlantis, Serenity.... probably one of the most successful and well-established Austrian acts right now.

That´s simply not true.. ORF just needs to grow some balls and has to start thinking out of the box

what do u mean it's simply not true? (visions of atlantis may be an exception but they are not what i'd consider one of the most successful and well-established acts. they have fans and a great following but they are not really known outside of the rock/heavy metal bubble. and they took part in the last 2 years as u will know). i agree though that orf has to start thinking out of the box. anyway, guess that's more a topic for the austrian thread so let's leave it there.

 

[Datura]

Not at all. Irish music these days, tends to be more techno, dance, and theres still a huge popularity of indie-ish. Connolly was probably most reflective of modern trends and would have walked it if not for Wild Youth getting selected as an act. Wild Youth are very popular here amongst teens etc, but their music is usually more dance and pop-rock. This was not at all what people actually expected from Wild Youth. In fact, id bet they were advised badly to make this radio friendly, one direction style song about equality as some higher up said thats what Eurovision is (as they probably are mentally in 2009).



This is a more typical Wild Youth song

Wild Youth - Long Time No See (Official Music Video)

LONG TIME NO SEE is the latest single from Irish four-piece Wild YouthCredits Directed by U L T R A V I O L E T (Jason Foran & Conor Maloney) Production Comp...

youtu.be

Inhaler are by comparison another rising young band here with a future probably beyond Ireland

Inhaler - We Have To Move On

Pre-order Inhaler's new album 'Cuts And Bruises' now: https://inhaler.lnk.to/CutsandBruisesListen to We Have To Move On https://Inhaler.lnk.to/WeHaveToMoveOn...

youtu.be

Heres a few young singers slowly rising here, some already having some success nationally and also in the UK, reflective of the general mood. I wont bother adding big names like Hozier, Niall Horan etc as they are well known and probably wayyy to big to ever consider ESC. Dermot Kennedy below is already quite succesful and has also had hits in the UK

Dermot Kennedy - Giants

The Official 'Giants' music videoSonder is out November 18. Preorder now: https://dermotkennedy.lnk.to/sonderIDListen to the complete Dermot Kennedy collecti...

www.youtube.com

Ezra Williams (FKA Smoothboi) - Stuck

Listen to Stuck now: https://smoothboiezra.ffm.to/stuckSignup for Ezra’s new music, merch and event drops by text or email https://ezrawilliams.ffm.to/signup...

www.youtube.com

Cian Ducrot - All For You (Official Video)

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youtu.be

RóisÃn Murphy - Overpowered (Official Video)

Official music video for Overpowered by Róisín Murphy. Taken from the album of the same name.Listen now: https://lnk.to/StreamRoisinMurphyAYFollow Róisín Mur...

youtu.be

Anseo (Single Mix)

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thanks i didnt know dance music was very popular in ireland. i know a few of those u listed, i really like inhaler. and roisin murphy is a goddess. no way she would do eurovision but the thought alone is fantastic

 

[Deleted member 12761]

The guys are really cute and I wish them the best. It's not bad but very generic. Not just the song but also the performance. Of course they're going to revamp it for the final. I don't think it's impossible for Ireland to qualify but I don't think they will. They are performing in the first half of SF1 which is a very strong SF, too. And there are no juries. Of course we have to see what the other countries are serving but yeah. I believe it's NQ. I like Ireland and they obviously have the talent. They just need to change their formula like Spain.

I gave them 4 points for now.

 

[Looren]

I think this can surprise us and qualify, sounds like a song that is meant to be sang in a big audience, and the chorus is quite anthemic

It's not a sure Q at all but it's definitely not a sure NQ

 

[Mainshow]

e? (visions of atlantis may be an exception but they are not what i'd consider one of the most successful and well-established acts. they have fans and a great following but they are not really known outside of the rock/heavy metal bubble. and they took part in the last 2 years as u will know). i agree though that orf has to start thinking out of the box. anyway, guess that's more a topic for the austrian thread so let's leave it there.

They are well-established and well-known.
I simply do not rate an artist´s "popularity" on single charts/radio-airplay only. If we just take such stats into account, I think that it´s safe to say that there are no successful Austrian acts out there.
I just can´t think of any successful Austrian pop star, for example.. Andreas Gabalier, maybe? But he´s also not popular outside the German-speaking "Schlager" bubble.

I think it´s the same in Ireland.. there are well-established and popular acts (based on the standards of their genres) who want to compete at Eurovision... we simply can´t expect that everyone below Niall Horan/U2 for Ireland, Adele for UK, Rammstein or Helene Fischer for Germany is "not popular". Personally, I think that Eurofans´argument that "no well-established act wants to represent my country" is misleading..

Lumix wasn´t known, either. He was involved in three minor hits but it´s not like anyone recognised his name.