Germany GERMANY 2024 - Isaak - Always on the Run

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[jatojo]

I would really like to not be last place every single year, i'll take going internal for this.

Over time, things even out. Portugal did badly year after year, but then suddenly they won. Same could happen to Germany. As I recall, the latest top result for Germany came in a year when people had thought the winner of the NF was bland.

It’s often coincidence that decides these things. And of the big 5, only Italy is steadily getting good results (even with mediocre songs, but that’s just my personal opinion.)

 

[PolarFoxxie.]

Too many recaps, show was too long and without quality songs. Florian silbereisen, Ricardo, Barbara???? Is there anyone else who can replace them????

 

[ZoboCamel]

I was hoping for Ryk, and thought he would've stood a very good chance at a top-5 jury vote at Eurovision... but perhaps not if tonight's international juries were any indication, lol. He would've been maybe 10th or something in my ranking by May, and probably an 8 in the poll, so a loss, but not a massive one.

As for what we actually got - I do still like Isaak. He was my second favourite in the NF, he's got a good voice, and the song's quite up my alley, derivative though it may be. He's firmly in the category of Black Smoke / Ghost for me: a German entry that I vaguely like, that I'll give 6 or 7 points to in the poll, and that is so anonymous it's a prime candidate for last place in May.

A high from me. Plus some added thanks to Isaak and Germany: when it came on I thought, "wow, what a Germany entry" and placed a bet on him winning the NF at 30/1, so I've come away from the night with a tidy profit

 

[ayzelto]

3 points from me. Couldn’t be more generic.

 

[jatojo]

The song isn’t awful and he has a great voice….but it still sounds like something that would have won from the UK’s You Decide selection back in 2018/19.
It’s kind of sad to think a decade ago we had great quality acts taking part in the German national final like Marie Marie, Keoma, Unheilig, Betty Dittrich, etc but over the years the quality has just fallen off a cliff.

It could be coincidence. Or it could be because:
1.) It's completely different songwriters than back then
2.) The general level of pop music in the country is low these years
3.) The country has decided to only go with its own songwriters and artists

In terms of Denmark, all three criteria have played a roll the last four years, and I would imagine something similar is going on in Germany (and in Ireland etc.). However, the Germans tried to import a whole package from abroad this time - it didn't quite work.

 

[jatojo]

3 points from me. Couldn’t be more generic.

Did you hear "Naiv"?

 

[ayzelto]

Did you hear "Naiv"?

Yes. And I preferred it over this one tbh.

 

[jatojo]

Yes. And I preferred it over this one tbh.

I may agree with you there, but Isaak's song is definitely less generic than the schlager.

 

[lasse braun]

that's my meal from yesterday - very tasty - yummy.

 

[Storm]

Omg now i cant unhear the elephant sounds in Isaak's song anymore

 

[Koori]

I'm sorry but I missed an NF tonight. But I have a question.
So you have a lot of songs. Some are boring. Some are shit. Some are just not representing anything. The question is - how do you always manage to choose the worst? I mean it's not the 1st year when you can tell that's an accident, but I'm still wondering...

 

[jatojo]

I'm sorry but I missed an NF tonight. But I have a question.
So you have a lot of songs. Some are boring. Some are shit. Some are just not representing anything. The question is - how do you always manage to choose the worst? I mean it's not the 1st year when you can tell that's an accident, but I'm still wondering...

Isn't that a bit too negative? It's a song contest, it's entertainment - it's not politics or something. And neither the organizers nor the televoters are complete idiots.

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

People are being unfair to this, its a good song and quite well sung. Lacks oomf, but maybe the staging will add it to the song? ( ok knowing Germany, it wont ). Love the elephant sounds.

 

[Loindici]

I like Isaak's song, but it will be dead last in May. Need to get over my sadness now.

There's still hope. Isaak's voice is very characteristic, which could be a plus with some part of the televote. I don't think juries will ignore this song, either. It's like those radio-friendly dark pop songs that they usually receive from Azerbaijan or Switzerland. And it's also legit good.

Staging really needs a ton of work, though. The team needs to bring a soul-type singer like Isaak a bigger presence, not like whatever they put in the contest tonight.

 

[nudiecrudi]

NoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooHow it is possible??
I can't believe Oh boy didn't win.
It had everything to get a top 5 in the final but no, we are getting Always on the fun, which isn't bad, but it screams so generic.

 

[Loindici]

Yes your profile pic had one of them

You really skipped the tea talk and went directly with the knife i see

 

[ayzelto]

It's really surprising how some people find it so difficult to express their opinions without being insulting, toxic, or aggressive. And the worst part is that I'm seeing it happen more and more often. It's really a shame.

 

[ZoboCamel]

Something I'll note: I've shown snippets of the various NF & ESC songs I like from this year to my parents over the last few weeks to see their reactions as non-fan-bubble people, and out of maybe 60 songs, there were only three that both of them actively liked. Which were Hollow, Rim Tim Tagi Dim, and... this. Very small sample size, I know, but I wonder if this might be a fair bit more popular among casual listeners than it is in the bubble.

Still expecting it to end bottom 5 on balance of probabilities, mind you...

 

[AlekS]

Everyone's performances were underwhelming. Ryk sounded better than on the rehearsal tho. I still think his song could have been performed better by another singer.

As for the winner. If he performs it like this in Malmö the song will "disappear" & become forgotten even if they put it last in the running order:

I give it a .

 

[Decayingbooks]

It could be coincidence. Or it could be because:
1.) It's completely different songwriters than back then
2.) The general level of pop music in the country is low these years
3.) The country has decided to only go with its own songwriters and artists

In terms of Denmark, all three criteria have played a roll the last four years, and I would imagine something similar is going on in Germany (and in Ireland etc.). However, the Germans tried to import a whole package from abroad this time - it didn't quite work.

I completely disagree with your third point, a nf should be representative of the music industry in each country, the problem is that in Germany that's seem to not the case and I'm not German, so I don't know exactly why that is, but the vibe I got is that the record labels have hijacked the nf as a way to promote new artists domestically, rather than what they actually should be doing, using the nf and the eurovision stage to promote well established german artists internationally.