Football: domestic leagues

[Little]

Only a thing...

Milan-Inter 0-1!!!!!

Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah!!!!!!

 

[Milos-BC]

^^ Congratulations on the victory in the derby

I couldn't watch the match (even though I planned to do it....but not to scout you as our next opponent in EL ), as my cable operator doesn't have the channel that is broadcasting some of the matches of Serie A in their offer (and this was aired on that channel), but I was with Inter in this one.

I don't like Milan

 

[No Name]

Inter is one of my favorite clubs (along with FCK and Spurs) in the world, so I couldn't have been more pleased with the outcome of the match. The players fought like heroes, and they deserve huge credit for their defensive effort in the 2nd half...being one man down for 45 minutes while still managing to hold a lead makes me pretty confident that Inter is heading in the right direction. Beating Fiorentina last week and Milan yesterday night is a pretty good run. Bring on Juventus.

Btw, Milito really owes Inter a goal after that huge miss in 1st half, and he better make up for that against Catania.

 

[lucian-crusher]

Results of the 11th round in Liga 1:

"U" Cluj - Ceahlaul Piatra Neamt 1 - 0

Astra Giurgiu - SC Vaslui 1 - 1

Viitorul Constanta - Petrolul Ploiesti 1 - 2

CS Drobeta Turnu Severin - Rapid Bucharest 0 - 1

Gaz Metan Medias - Dinamo Bucharest 2 - 2

Gloria Bistrita - Pandurii Targu Jiu 1 - 3

Steaua Bucharest - CFR Cluj 1 - 0

FC Brasov - CSMS Iasi 1 - 0

Concordia Chiajna - Otelul Galati 0 - 0


Table:

1. Steaua Bucharest 28
2. Pandurii Targu Jiu 25
3. Astra Giurgiu 21
4. SC Vaslui 19
5. Dinamo Bucharest 18 (10 games)
6. Rapid Bucharest 18 (10 games)
7. CFR Cluj 16
8. Petrolul Ploiesti 16
9. FC Brasov 16
10. Concordia Chiajna 15
11. "U" Cluj 14
12. Gaz Metan Medias 13
13. Viitorul Constanta 11
14. Ceahlaul Piatra Neamt 11
15. Otelul Galati 7
16. Gloria Bistrita 6
17. CSMS Iasi 5
18. CS Drobeta Turnu Severin 4

 

[Milos-BC]

According to the Croatian newspaper Globus a regional league in soccer will begin in 2015. UEFA ordered it.

Teams that will compete in this league will be ex-yu teams (all 6 ex-yu nations will have clubs in this league) + Bulgaria and Hungary, but there are indications that Romania may join this league too.


I fully support this! Teams may only profit from being there, and it will be an interesting league to watch too. The overall quality of the teams will be vastly improved and all of us will be more competitive in the euro cups.

 

[lucian-crusher]

According to the Croatian newspaper Globus a regional league in soccer will begin in 2015. UEFA ordered it.

Teams that will compete in this league will be ex-yu teams (all 6 ex-yu nations will have clubs in this league) + Bulgaria and Hungary, but there are indications that Romania may join this league too.


I fully support this! Teams may only profit from being there, and it will be an interesting league to watch too. The overall quality of the teams will be vastly improved and all of us will be more competitive in the euro cups.

You mean besides our national leagues, or we will destroy our national leagues?

 

[Milos-BC]

^^as far as I understood, this will be a separate league from the national one (so those are not destroyed). If that was the case, I wouldn't support it at all.

 

[lucian-crusher]

Then it's perfect! I hope Romania joins, but looking at the strength of the other leagues I think that CFR Cluj, Dinamo Zagreb, Partizan and Steaua will win this every year

 

[Morty]

We had something similar in Scandinavia some years ago, called the "Royal League". It had the top 4 teams from Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and I liked the concept, but it was a complete failure, because there were far too few people attending the matches. Also, Denmark follows the rest of Europe, and start their season in the fall, while we and Sweden start in spring, so it wasn't completely fair, as the Danes were in the middle of their season, as the league was played during winter/early spring.

 

[Little]

Here the complete report:

Chievo Verona-Sampdoria 2-1
Genoa-Palermo 1-1
Roma-Atalanta 2-0
Catania-Parma 2-0
Fiorentina-Bologna 1-0
Pescara-Lazio 0-3
Siena-Juventus 1-2
Torino-Cagliari 0-1
Milan-Inter 0-1
Napoli-Udinese 2-1



Juventus 19
Napoli 19
Lazio 15
Inter 15
Roma 11
Fiorentina 11
Catania 11
Sampdoria (-1) 10
Genoa 9
Torino (-1) 8
Milan 7
Bologna 7
Pescara 7
Udinese 6
Parma 6
Chievo Verona 6
Palermo 5
Atalanta (-2) 5
Cagliari 5
Siena (-6) 2

 

[Milos-BC]

Then it's perfect! I hope Romania joins, but looking at the strength of the other leagues I think that CFR Cluj, Dinamo Zagreb, Partizan and Steaua will win this every year

I think the same!

I would be curious what would Zvezda say, and who would be responsible for their failures in this league, because, you know, their supporters as well as the management, the players.....and everyone who has connection with Zvezda think that their club is the biggest club in the whole galaxy. All other clubs are "small, stupid, bad, etc...." but Zvezda is bigger than Real, Barcelona and other teams, as they say......Don't be surprised if you meet Zvezda's supporter at some point and learn from him that Steaua is a small club. That is their phylosophy, Partizan is the weakest team that ever existed in their heads.

Partizan's supporters were always different than Zvezda's and that is why I am proud that I have chosen the right side.

They don't have a mental capacity to admit that someone is better than them, and they have a lot of complexes now as Partizan is stronger than ever in soccer, and we were never this dominant like now, we are now on just 1 title less then them, and if we win it this season we will be equal. This is their worst nightmare, as Partizan will soon become the Serbian club with the most trophies and not their precious Zvezda....We are also raping them heavily in all other sports as well. They are a total mockery of a club now. Only the name and the fans remained from once a really huge club.

They proclaimed themselves for the champions of the world, which they have never been, as Intercontinental cup was never played to get "the champion of the world". Panathenaikos played there once as a wildcard and they won it, so are they "the champions of the world" too?

Their president doesn't recognize Partizan's titles (after we smashed them in the derby last year he said "we do not recognize this defeat, as we are the ones that deserved to win!" ), for every defeat it is always a referee's fault or the president of the Serbian football association Tomislav Karadzic (Tole) is "helping his Partizan to "steal" the titles from the pillar of Serbia" 2

This is their propaganda. They have most of the media here on their side too, and every victory of Zvezda is completely clean and deserved, and every time Partizan wins (and especially if we get a penalty for example), we get headlines like "a referee pushed Partizan to victory, etc......" Last season they found out that a referee on one of our matches liked a Partizan fanpage on Facebook and they claimed that that was the proof that we are stealing their titles, but that Partizan FB fan of a referee dreamed up a penalty which never existed on the derby......and since someone from the above sees everything, of course, they missed it And then lost with 2:0.


I never root against them in European matches, but I am close to support their rivals in euro-matches starting from next season. When they got eliminated by Bordeaux in the EL playoff, I was sad because they really played excellent and deserved to pass, but they were more sad because Partizan eliminated Tromso and enterted Europa League then because of their own elimination. Then they wished us all the worst and that all rivals in the group smash us..........

But, as I said, someone from the above sees everything, and that is why they are in a complete agony for a long time. Partizan is winning titles in all sports, and what is important, we speak on the field, not through the media, while they are left frozen in 1991, frozen in their own conspiracy theories and thinkings that they are the biggest club in the universe, while reality is vastly different.



That scandal in in Genoa on the Luigi Ferrarris stadium is a clean picture of their club, as that was arranged by them. "The pillars of Serbia" wanted to kill the goalkeeper of their own country!

We had something similar in Scandinavia some years ago, called the "Royal League". It had the top 4 teams from Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and I liked the concept, but it was a complete failure, because there were far too few people attending the matches. Also, Denmark follows the rest of Europe, and start their season in the fall, while we and Sweden start in spring, so it wasn't completely fair, as the Danes were in the middle of their season, as the league was played during winter/early spring.

Something similar will be the script here too. There are bad sides as well as the good ones for league like this. I think it will greatly improve the quality of the teams competiting there, and as I said, we will be more competetive in the eurocups. A bad side is that there will be many scandals on the tribunes when some ex-yu teams meet, and almost every match between a Serbian team (Partizan and Crvena Zvezda) and Croatian (like Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split) will be a match of very high risk. The situation in the Balkan is different and there is a high security risk anytime Serbia and Croatia meet (for example) in any sport, no matter of it is a club competition or the national teams. For many normal people there aren't any problems, but you have morons looking for trouble everywhere, sadly...

Too bad that the Scandinavian league of this format didn't achieve the popularity it deserved. It would've been very helpful for all teams participating there.

Btw, what team is currently the strongest in ? I got the impression that it is Molde (but not because they are the current champions only).

 

[lucian-crusher]

We had something similar in Scandinavia some years ago, called the "Royal League". It had the top 4 teams from Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and I liked the concept, but it was a complete failure, because there were far too few people attending the matches. Also, Denmark follows the rest of Europe, and start their season in the fall, while we and Sweden start in spring, so it wasn't completely fair, as the Danes were in the middle of their season, as the league was played during winter/early spring.

I remember that! It was in the bookies and I remember Rosenborg was the big favourite everytime!

@Milos: They are just frustrated! Dinamo fans always blame us for their insucces in Europe because they say we are in the first pot at draws and they would have succes to if they wold be in the first pot. But they always forget that we are there because we played a UEFA Cup Semifinal 6 years ago and we would've played the Final if we wouldn't be so foolish to lose a 3-0 advantage against Midlesbrough. When we lost that Semifinal, Dinamo's fans where very happy and they where dancing on the streets, but that cost them because if we would've reached that Final, then Dinamo would've been qualified directly in the UEFA Champions League group stage as Romanian champions in 2007.

And we got points against big teams, we won 4 - 1 in Kiev against Dinamo, we eliminated Valencia, we won 3 - 0 in Sevilla against Betis and we got a 1 - 1 against Olympique Lyon on Gerland, ending a 14 clean sheets chain on home ground for OL. In the meantime Dinamo where eliminated from Europe by "huge teams" like Nentroni 17 Tirana, RK, Elfsborg, NEC Nijmegen and Vorskla Poltava

I am not saying that if we would've swaped oponents in Europa League this year we would've defeated Metalist Harkov, but I am sure that they would've had a hard time against Ekranas

 

[Morty]

Too bad that the Scandinavian league of this format didn't achieve the popularity it deserved. It would've been very helpful for all teams participating there.

Btw, what team is currently the strongest in ? I got the impression that it is Molde (but not because they are the current champions only).

There is also a downside when it comes to strengthening the participating teams. The teams that weren't able to qualify to the Royal League would get even more problems qualifying, as the good teams would just get better and better.

The Norwegian league is currently an open race between reigning champion Molde, the by far most successful team Rosenborg, and the underdog Strømsgodset, who's spent far less money compared to the other two.

I remember that! It was in the bookies and I remember Rosenborg was the big favourite everytime!

And in the 3 seasons of the Royal League, Rosenborg never qualified to a final. FCK won the first seasons (against IFK Göteborg and Lillestrøm), while Brøndby beat FCK in the 3rd final. So Danish teams won all seasons.

 

[Milos-BC]

Partizan defeated Rad yesterday with 1:0. The only goal was scored by a defender of national team - Ivan Ivanov in 10th minute. It was a hard match as expected, as Rad is one of the strongest teams in and the match where we play as guests there is among the hardest ones in the league . Not a great game of Partizan, but an important victory and very important 3 points. Our 2nd goalkeeper Nikola Petrovic saved two goals, and has proven that we can rest assured that we have a good substitute for Vladimir Stojkovic, and that we don't have to worry about the goal while he is injured.

We don't have tough matches until the derby now (maybe only against Radnički Niš, but only because of the atmosphere on the Čair stadium in Niš.....) so we will probably await the derby on the first spot and with an advantage of +2 That is, psychologically looking, very important.

The table:

 

[PeterLPZ]

Here are the results of 8th round of German Bundesliga

Hoffenheim - Fürth 3-3
Dortmund - Schalke 1-2
Leverkusen - Mainz 2-2
Wolfsburg - Freiburg 0-2
Frankfurt - Hannover 3-1
Düsseldorf - München 0-5
Bremen - M.gladbach 4-0
Nürnberg - Augsburg 0-0
Hamburg - Stuttgart 0-1

01. München 24
02. Frankfurt 19
03. Schalke 17
04. Dortmund 12
05. Leverkusen 12
06. Hannover 11
07. Freiburg 11
08. Mainz 11
09. Bremen 10
10. Hamburg 10
11. Düsseldorf 10
12. Stuttgart 9
13. M.gladbach 9
14. Hoffenheim 8
15. Nürnberg 8
16. Augsburg 6
17. Fürth 5
18. Wolfsburg 5

 

[CPV4931]

And another victory for Eintracht Frankfurt - great season from us so far

 

[lucian-crusher]

Results of the 12th round in Liga 1:

CFR Cluj - Viitorul Constanta 0 - 1

Ceahlaul Piatra Neamt - Gaz Metan Medias 2 - 1

Dinamo Bucharest - Gloria Bistrita 1 - 2

Rapid Bucharest - FC Brasov 1 - 2

Otelul Galati - Astra Giurgiu 2 - 1

Petrolul Ploiesti - CS Drobeta Turnu Severin 1 - 0

SC Vaslui - "U" Cluj 1 - 0

Pandurii Targu Jiu - Steaua Bucharest 0 - 0

CSMS Iasi - Concordia Chiajna 0 - 1


4th round postponded match:

Dinamo Bucharest - Rapid Bucharest 2 - 1


Table:

1. Steaua Bucharest 29
2. Pandurii Targu Jiu 26
3. SC Vaslui 22
4. Astra Giurgiu 21
5. Dinamo Bucharest 21
6. Petrolul Ploiesti 19
7. FC Brasov 19
8. Rapid Bucharest 18
9. Concordia Chiajna 18
10. CFR Cluj 16
11. Viitorul Constanta 14
12. "U" Cluj 14
13. Ceahlaul Piatra Neamt 14
14. Gaz Metan Medias 13
15. Otelul Galati 10
16. Gloria Bistrita 9
17. CSMS Iasi 5
18. CS Drobeta Turnu Severin 4

 

[Little]

Atalanta-Siena 2-1
Cagliari-Bologna 1-0
Chievo-Fiorentina 1-1
Inter-Catania 2-0
Juventus-Napoli 2-0
Lazio-Milan 3-2
Palermo-Torino 0-0
Parma-Sampdoria 2-1
Udinese-Pescara 1-0
Genoa-Roma 2-4



Juventus 22
Napoli 19
Inter 18
Lazio 18
Roma 14
Fiorentina 12
Catania 11
Sampdoria 10
Udinese 9
Parma 9
Genoa 9
Torino (-1) 9
Cagliari 8
Atalanta (-2) 8
Milan 7
Bologna 7
Pescara 7
Chievo 7
Palermo 6
Siena (-6) 2


Milan is very low!!

And another victory for Eintracht Frankfurt - great season from us so far

Does Rob Friend play in Eintracht?

 

[CPV4931]

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Does Rob Friend play in Eintracht?
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Yes, he does... but he doesn´t play a lot

 

[Milos-BC]

Partizan defeated Novi Pazar with 3:1 in the last match of the 10th round of Jelen Super Liga tonight.

It wasn't easy, as Novi Pazar can be quite a tricky opponent. They have a very solid team, and a great coach Dragoljub Bekvalac, who is using the maximum of this team, plus they were motivated against us, and they were looking for a chance in the fact that we were emotionally drained after the match against Inter. Luckily, we quickly recovered from that, beated them tonight, and managed to retain the first position.

The table:

Our next match is on Wednesday already, when we are going to play in the 1/8 finals of the Serbian cup against Borac Čačak - a team that plays in the second league now, but that managed to be a finalist of the last season's cup. This match was delayed because of our trip to Milano and the match against Inter, and instead of last Wednesday, it will be played in 3 days.