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crashworld

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Since I regard UMK as the best national contest in these years, I would of course miss it.

I do think, though, that the EBU could provide us with better arguments regarding why they choose to let Israel participate. Their main argument seems to be that Israel has participated in Eurovision for very long - that is a lame point.

There's no need for EBU to give explanation on why Israel can continue to participate.

They have made it clear in their rules it's a non-political event and a country cannot participate only if the broadcaster is in breach of EBU's and the contest's rules. As of now, KAN is not guilty of any breach so the fans just need to accept that Israel has the right to its participation in the contest no matter what's their personal views on Israel or the current events in Middle East.
 
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jatojo

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There's no need for EBU to give explanation on why Israel can continue to participate.

They have made it clear in their rules it's a non-political event and a country cannot participate only if the broadcaster is in breach of EBU's and the contest's rules. As of now, KAN is not guilty of any breach so the fans just need to accept that Israel has the right to its participation in the contest no matter what's their personal views on Israel or the current events in Middle East.

I'm not saying I disagree about the decision - I tend to agree, actually. But in the press, their arguments appeared weak. I was looking for a comparison between, for example, the exclusion of Belarus and Russia and the non-exclusion of Israel.
 

crashworld

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I'm not saying I disagree about the decision - I tend to agree, actually. But in the press, their arguments appeared weak. I was looking for a comparison between, for example, the exclusion of Belarus and Russia and the non-exclusion of Israel.

I must have missed something, but what are their arguments for Israel's inclusion (I haven't been following closely on the ESC news) and why are they considered "weak"?
 

Marcos C

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The seven entries of UMK 2024 will be revealed one by one later this month according to the following schedule.

January 11 (Thu) - First song
January 12 (Fri) - Second song
January 15 (Mon) - Third song
January 16 (Tue) - Fourth song
January 17 (Wed) - Fifth song
January 18 (Thu) - Sixth song
January 19 (Fri) - Seventh song

 

heke1988

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The first of the traditional UMK finalists' artist tips has now been published on the UMK Instagram page:

- I ain't scared no more
- MÄRKÄÄ NAHKAA (WET LEATHER)
- PEDO MELLON A MINNO (Speak Friend And Enter)

 

Looren

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Only thing I wanna know tbh is if the aunt's list is correct and if yes did she get fired or not :lol: :lol:
 

HarryUK

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The first of the traditional UMK finalists' artist tips has now been published on the UMK Instagram page:

- I ain't scared no more
- MÄRKÄÄ NAHKAA (WET LEATHER)
- PEDO MELLON A MINNO (Speak Friend And Enter)

IS QUEEN SAARA BACK?!

I don't think I'd be able to cope. Imagine Saara, Olly Alexander, KEiiNO, MELOVIN and Let 3 in one bloody year. Phenomenal television!!!
 

heke1988

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IS QUEEN SAARA BACK?!

I don't think I'd be able to cope. Imagine Saara, Olly Alexander, KEiiNO, MELOVIN and Let 3 in one bloody year. Phenomenal television!!!
I don't think it is Saara, because that clue would se so obvious to be her.

The second UMK-finalists clues are:

- Veni, Vidi, Vici (I saw, I came, I conquered): Reference to Julius Caesar
- Visionääri (Visionary)
- Mul ei menis ku 230 minuuttia hakee sut (It wouldn't take me More than 230 minutes to pick you up)
 

rasmuslights

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I don't think it is Saara, because that clue would se so obvious to be her.

The second UMK-finalists clues are:

- Veni, Vidi, Vici (I saw, I came, I conquered): Reference to Julius Caesar
- Visionääri (Visionary)
- Mul ei menis ku 230 minuuttia hakee sut (It wouldn't take me More than 230 minutes to pick you up)

These clues are useless :)
 

heke1988

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The third UMK-finalist clues are:

- Timantit ovat ikuisia (Diamonds are forever)
- 💩 (poop-emoji)
- Ravistelija (Shaker)
 

heke1988

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The fourth UMK-finalist clues are:

Neljännen UMK-finalistin vihjeet:

- 34° 03´01.4´´N
118°05′07.07´´W
- Sanaseppä (Wordsmith)
- VERY INTERNATIONAL
 

heke1988

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The fifth UMK-finalist clues are:

- Hiekkamyrsky (Sandstorm)
- WUH
- Skaala on mieletön (The scale is insane)
 
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