ESC United Mod Team
Super Moderator
- Joined
- February 10, 2021
- Posts
- 214
This thread is for any general Eurovision 2023 discussion not limited to or specifically about any country's national selections or song choices.
EUROVISION 2023 - General Discussion thread
- Thread starter ESC United Mod Team
- Start date
- Watchers 68
A-lister
Veteran
- Joined
- December 28, 2009
- Posts
- 32,825
I must applaud BBC, Liverpool and the Ukrainian broadcaster for a great show! I can't say yet if I think it was the best staging yet, but for sure one of them. Very dynamic looking, modern but with a feeling that it could shapeshift unlike some stages we had that were either stiff or relied only on backdrops.
Also the hosting was great, great balance of being respectful to the contest (and the Ukrainian context although I would have liked to see a bit more of the latter) and relaxed sense of humor unlike alot of the forced jokes and unnecessary screams hosts we got through the years. This together with the Swedish hosts and the Dutch were probably among the best in the past decade/s. I expected nothing less from the BBC to be honest. Miles above the messy hosting of Italy last year.
Also the hosting was great, great balance of being respectful to the contest (and the Ukrainian context although I would have liked to see a bit more of the latter) and relaxed sense of humor unlike alot of the forced jokes and unnecessary screams hosts we got through the years. This together with the Swedish hosts and the Dutch were probably among the best in the past decade/s. I expected nothing less from the BBC to be honest. Miles above the messy hosting of Italy last year.
Andromache
Active member
- Joined
- May 14, 2023
- Posts
- 94
67 years later and the Contest continues to grow. As a Eurovision fan I'm so happy to see that. The songs this year are doing really well on Spotify. The strongest year ever for the artists. Same with Youtube, official charts etc. This is why countries should send quality and not joke entries. Eurovision has become a good platform for European artists to promote themselves and their music and we need a platform like this in a world that is dominated by US culture.
Rub7922
Active member
- Joined
- March 19, 2022
- Posts
- 6
I’ve been having a look over previous years results and one thing that strikes me is how poorly the Big 5 have done since the introduction of Semi Finals. Italy generally being the exception.
They can’t all be sending the worst songs for the last 16 years, so I do believe that there’s a big disadvantage being automatic qualifiers for the final. I understand why they get their place and I can’t say I’d want that to change but maybe it’d be interesting to have them perform live during the semi finals instead of the 30 sec clip? Perhaps that extra exposure would help them get a few more points.
Be interesting to test it out one year to see.
They can’t all be sending the worst songs for the last 16 years, so I do believe that there’s a big disadvantage being automatic qualifiers for the final. I understand why they get their place and I can’t say I’d want that to change but maybe it’d be interesting to have them perform live during the semi finals instead of the 30 sec clip? Perhaps that extra exposure would help them get a few more points.
Be interesting to test it out one year to see.
midnightsun
Veteran
Yeah, it‘s still a surprise to me how they pander to the big 5 all the time on all occasions due to their status but don’t let them perform in Semi 1 as "interval act“.
As a viewer, my focus on the show drops significantly once all semi-finalists perform. I'm watching, but I'll probably also be on my phone or do something else. I think that's what happens with the Big5 segment. For most viewers, the Big5 clips are just another boring segment to push through before the results.
I will give BBC credits, though, because they gave the AQs a nice amount of screentime.
I think a way to improve it is show the postcard and 1st minute (or 1:30 minutes) of the performance with the screen title as well - it'd make a better impression compared to the little heart labels they used for the AQs this year.
I will give BBC credits, though, because they gave the AQs a nice amount of screentime.
I think a way to improve it is show the postcard and 1st minute (or 1:30 minutes) of the performance with the screen title as well - it'd make a better impression compared to the little heart labels they used for the AQs this year.
ESC94
Well-known member
They have updated the results site, we can now see better on which rank the jurors the countries put and don´t have to calculate it on our own anymore:
eurovision.tv
They also fixed the televote results of
.
Results of the Grand Final of Liverpool 2023 - Eurovision Song Contest
Official website of the Eurovision Song Contest. The latest news, photos, videos, participant info, voting results, the Contest's rich history and much more.
They also fixed the televote results of
.
Fierro
Well-known member
Did you also notice Sweden often gets to host in leap years? 2000, 2016, 2024
1992 as well
GermanBango
Well-known member
Probably part of the big conspiracy.
Sammy
Veteran
- Joined
- February 1, 2014
- Posts
- 16,124
who wouldn‘t want to host in a leap year. I mean…. IMAGINE!!!!Probably part of the big conspiracy.
Ezio
Veteran
Somehow everyone was robbed at this contest, even Sweden.
Sweden got robbed of their moment in winning. And winning the contest twice thanks to juries is not the cutest feeling I guess.
But I don't feel pity for them. The reception for Sweden's win isn't great even outside the bubble (family, work mates, media coverage).
Only exceptions: Italy, Israel, Estonia
Estonia got extremely lucky. Iceland could have snatched her spot with better neighbours and a better staging easily.
Sweden got robbed of their moment in winning. And winning the contest twice thanks to juries is not the cutest feeling I guess.
But I don't feel pity for them. The reception for Sweden's win isn't great even outside the bubble (family, work mates, media coverage).
Only exceptions: Italy, Israel, Estonia
Estonia got extremely lucky. Iceland could have snatched her spot with better neighbours and a better staging easily.
crashworld
Veteran
- Joined
- May 12, 2018
- Posts
- 4,065
I think generally, the General Public has issues with women wailing (ala Spain) or screaming (ala Iceland) at them except when the woman is singing in Albanian or Loreen.
Last edited:
Tbh I am really shocked by how many people were so blindsided and surprised by Spains televote score. :'D It was just far faarrr too hyped by fans, when the song was so incredibly niche and had no seriously 'memorable' part, apart from a woman screaming. It ended up coming in the bottom 5 with just about every single country. I'd argue the 5 was generous as it was.
It felt like most of the song was her loudly vocalising the EAEAEA. I am ofc dramatising it by calling it screaming, especially when i nearly added that it felt like listening to this: https://youtu.be/HdZ9weP5i68
It obviously wasn't too far off 'screaming' for most people considering it totally bombed in the televote.
AndroZeus
Well-known member
- Joined
- March 28, 2023
- Posts
- 626
In the 1700s Italian critics referred to all French opera singers as sounding like goats. People like to make offensive comparisons whenever they see something they're unfamiliar with.
Ezio
Veteran
I am saying this since years. Remember 2017, when all the wailing divas bombed in the semis?
Also, displaying female anger is a tough sell --> Israel 2014. These songs are often overrated by the fandom (yaass gurl, slaayy), but it's not exactly anyone else's cup of tea.
Official Singles Chart Top 100 | Official Charts
The Official UK Singles Chart reflects the UK’s biggest songs of the week, based on audio and video streams, downloads, CDs and vinyl, compiled by the Official Charts Company. The UK Top 40 is broadcast on BBC Radio 1 and MTV, the Top 100 is published exclusively on OfficialCharts.com. View the...