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This thread is for any general Eurovision 2023 discussion not limited to or specifically about any country's national selections or song choices.
What pisses me of the most about Sweden winning is that we'll definitely see Mans and Carola next year again to remind us of there songs being among the worsts of ESC winner songs. When I think about it, I fear they might even let him host one more time.
I don't mind him either. He's ok.I actually do hope Mans is one of the hosts next year
Omg I am getting sick alreadyWhat pisses me of the most about Sweden winning is that we'll definitely see Mans and Carola next year again to remind us of there songs being among the worsts of ESC winner songs. When I think about it, I fear they might even let him host one more time.
With Italy returning after 14 years break, the swedish hegemony was a bit shaking because we showed to Europe that there is another way to be successful.
From what I can see on Spotify Global Viral Top 50 Charts from my Spotify app:
1. Finland
9. Austria
18. Switzerland
20. Australia
24. Moldova
25. Croatia
27. Czechia
29. Sweden
30. Serbia
31. Slovenia
34. Belgium
36. Cyprus
37. Portugal
41. Armenia
42. Poland
45. Germany
47. France
Surprise Israel and Italy didn't make it. Wonder how the chart is being collated. Interesting to see Switzerland so high up.
I would add the inevitable ABBA reference. I am sick of it. EBU ruined what was a great classic, but I can't listen to Waterloo anymore.What pisses me of the most about Sweden winning is that we'll definitely see Mans and Carola next year again to remind us of there songs being among the worsts of ESC winner songs. When I think about it, I fear they might even let him host one more time.
Yeah, we had an ABBA collection at home when I didnt know about Eurovision yet. I loved their music but Waterloo was annoying then and still is now.Waterloo was one of the worst winners ever and one of ABBA’s worst songs. Nothing to be proud of tbh. I LOVE Abba, one of my favourite bands with lots of amazing songs but Waterloo … Abba should have definitely won for their outfits but other than that… no.
Waterloo is a mediocre song when compared to ABBA's other songs, but I wouldn't say it was a bad winner back in 1973, it's just that sometimes songs don't age well, for example, back in 2016I loved I loved "Heroes" and "J'ai Cherché", but nowadays I find them loud and annoyingWaterloo was one of the worst winners ever and one of ABBA’s worst songs. Nothing to be proud of tbh. I LOVE Abba, one of my favourite bands with lots of amazing songs but Waterloo … Abba should have definitely won for their outfits but other than that… no.
I would love Måns as a host again. More importantly, Fångad av en stormvind is one of the greatest live vocal performances in Eurovision history, and the song is brilliant. Top 5 among Swedish entries, for sure.
I have to assume that's mostly because it tied with France and ESC bubble like France because it was weird?I think so too but I think the common opinion is that FAES is a bad winner.
I'm almost 100% sure it was like that when I was a kid, I'm not sure when it changed but it's honestly messed up that you can vote more than once for a song. It drives tactical voting and leaves songs that people like getting very few points because they were people's 5th favourite and they spent all their votes on their top 3.The televoting should be changed so that you can only give one vote per song, that would be a fairer system.