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Bobjan FR

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Has anyone ever seen any leaked data on how many votes get cast in each country, either GF or SF? I'd be fascinated to see. Surely in some of the smaller population countries (Iceland, Malta, Montenegro) some entries only get a handful of votes.
Italy gave its televote results in 2019... And then this happened :

 

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Very very interesting and revealing interview with William by an Austrian media outlet. I was very surprised


Take a look!
 

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This year, probably for the first time ever I haven"t listened all the songs, don"t know who is in which semi or what happened in the rehearsals...

It will be interesting watching semi 1 tonight. It's tonight, right? 🤡
 

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I can't believe I'm actually going to type this but... I actually enjoyed the BBC's coverage of the first semi.

They weren't making fun of the acts, they didn't talk over the presenters or the VTs. Yeah, it is because they are hosting but it was a welcome change. And I won't lie, I did start to tear up during the opening stuff, partly because of that opening, and I realised that Paul O'Grady's appearance in the opening was likely one of the last things he ever recorded for TV.
 

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Loreen would top the odds with any other Song also, even with Azerbaijan‘s or San Marino‘s and a mammoth staging.

If San Marino sang Tattoi they would still flop.

I actually feel bad for you. I know you have some sort of vendetta against Sweden or something, but to actually genuinely believe this… I’m lost for words. Yikes.
 

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I actually feel bad for you. I know you have some sort of vendetta against Sweden or something, but to actually genuinely believe this… I’m lost for words. Yikes.
Good luck on retrieving your words again. :)
Someone has to stand up against Sweden. Since we can't count on Norway, you can count on me.
 

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I actually feel bad for you. I know you have some sort of vendetta against Sweden or something, but to actually genuinely believe this… I’m lost for words. Yikes.

Don’t act as if it wasn’t the truth!

Loreen's performance wasn’t surely the worst tonight but far from the best. Finland delivered. It also has a little room for improvement but he nailed it. And I‘m not the biggest fan of the song but I felt it.
Loreen, I didn’t feel. No connection with the camera, they had to tweak her voice a lot otherwise she would have screamed more to hit that high notes. She looked lost under that cube, she looked everywhere and doing her useless hand gestures but hey - to each their own. I‘m happy for whoever is happy if she wins. I couldn’t care less because for the first time in ages I‘m only rooting for my own country.

I won’t be overly excited too if Finland is going to win but he deserves it more than Sweden it’s a fun performance to watch.
 

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Sweden is producing a music video on stage, it didn’t go that well in 2018. There is zero connection between her and the audience. She doesn’t look into the camera and the live audience gets to see a cube with a gap and lots of fog. And she is supposed to sell a song that she is not likely embody at all. Tattoo with its tepid lyrics is not authentic to her, at least not to her woke, spiritual persona. She’d rather embody Flowers / Solo (self-Love) than obsession.

i don’t feel like Sweden genuinely wants to win for the sake of winning, because what does it mean to win 4 times in a lifetime? not the same as for Portugal or Finland winning once. No, they just want Eurovision to be a teaching moment for the rest of us, Show us how it’s done. How to host, how to change the rules, how to impose an unemployed former winner in every show, EBU jobs are not enough. Sweden is obsessed with ESC, i dont know why, maybe there is nothing left for them than this. If I could be sure that the rules wouldn’t be always changed under their influence, I would have voted Sweden in 2019 or for Air this year. Tattoo is just plastic crap either way.
 

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I've heard that in some countries the public broadcasters are not allowed to make any profits on the televote, so the cost of the voting is just to cover the service costs... that could be the main difference
We only pay 1 Kr (our second-lowest coin value) in Denmark. I believe it's the cheapest voting cost among all countries. But we also have a different set of voting rules. We can't vote 20 times on the same song. Only once per song. So in Semi 2, we can only vote 15 times - once for each song apart from our own. And we can't use the app, only by text message.

– Oh, and we don't have any commercial breaks during the show.
 

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Pretty sure Loreen is winning this now. Will win the jury and surely she is top 5 in televote at the least
Finland won't do well enough in jury to make up the difference.
France - nope, not feeling it, not a winner.
I actually didn't feel anything during her performance. Same with Israel. They just didn't do it for me. So I wouldn't be too quick to call a winner. :)
 
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