EUROVISION 2023 - FINAL REHEARSALS AND LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION

[MopManMoss]

I mean it's delusional @MopManMoss to say that Israel had toxic fans.

They had zero here and ESCunited team, some Serbian there, called Noa Kirel "desperate".

People from the bubble mocked the woman constantly, eventhough she was totally absent most of the year and highly professional during rehersals and on the contest

IDK really which toxic fans of hers we had to put up with except those untasteful ToyGoy videos.

Delusional? Israelis were under nearly every tiktok and youtube video talking about israel and noa even if the video had nothing to do with it dont call me delusional for something you clearly know nothing about

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Delusional? Israelis were under nearly every tiktok and youtube video talking about israel and noa even if the video had nothing to do with it dont call me delusional for something you clearly know nothing about

I'm sorry, but I don't follow TikTok. That's for kids who communicate there as kids do.

If you speak about a nation being proud of their contestant on SM, same comments come from numerous countries all over the Internet. That's normal.

Thus it's unfair really to single out just 1 contestant like Noa Kirel who had suffered enough from the bubble's toxicity.

 

[MopManMoss]

I'm sorry, but I don't follow TikTok. That's for kids who communicate there as kids do.

If you speak about a nation being proud of their contestant on SM, same comments come from numerous countries all over the Internet. There's nothing wrong with that.

I dont use tiktok as I am not a 15 year old girl and only look at it when rehearsal clips are put there because there is no other source for them, Israelis were talking about noa being the best on videos of random other contestants constantly that had absolutely nothing to do with noa or israel it was incredibly obnoxious it even happened with escunited videos and streams

Just because you personally havent seen it yourself and dont use apps in which it happens does not make me "delusional" for seeing it

 

[GermanBango]

I dont use tiktok as I am not a 15 year old girl and only look at it when rehearsal clips are put there because there is no other source for them, Israelis were talking about noa being the best on videos of random other contestants constantly that had absolutely nothing to do with noa or israel it was incredibly obnoxious it even happened with escunited videos and streams

Just because you personally havent seen it yourself and dont use apps in which it happens does not make me "delusional" for seeing it

He has 12 years of education in music. He knows everything!

 

[randajad]

It was like me hosting the edition fr

Well I could do that

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

I dont use tiktok as I am not a 15 year old girl and only look at it when rehearsal clips are put there because there is no other source for them, Israelis were talking about noa being the best on videos of random other contestants constantly that had absolutely nothing to do with noa or israel it was incredibly obnoxious it even happened with escunited videos and streams

Just because you personally havent seen it yourself and dont use apps in which it happens does not make me "delusional" for seeing it

As I said, I was talking about the bubble.

You are talking about comments on SM and you single out just one country even though same comments can be observed from UK, Spain, Sweden, Italy and France every year.

 

[MopManMoss]

As I said, I was talking about the bubble.

You are talking about comments on SM and you single out just one country even though same comments can be observed from UK, Spain, Sweden, Italy and France every year.

I mean I didnt single out a single country I said Spain and Israel

What British people were being toxic? They all thought Mae was a no hoper for months you are talking out your arse

 

[aef]

Looking at the detailed jury results I have no words for the result. So many jurors had them between 20th and 26th place.

Even if you think the song is not good enough, they had amazing stage presence, good staging in general, good vocals. I feel like a juror from just rankes them in the bottom 5 because it's and not any fancy country he/she has more connection to. And this is such a shame.

And let's be honest, the jury vote in favour of is heavily message driven. I'm mean fair enough to vote for a self empowerment/ LGBTQI empowerment song but the song itself can't be the reason why many jurors had so high in their ranking.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

I mean I didnt single out a single country I said Spain and Israel

What British people were being toxic? They all thought Mae was a no hoper for months you are talking out your arse

Last year with Sam British people were lullabies my arse.

Yeah you singled out 2 countries whose fans this year were completely non-visible and none were a favourite to win.

You hadn't singled out the fans of those who yesterday wrote here "shut your fucking mouths".

You all went bonkers people

 

[aef]

I mean I didnt single out a single country I said Spain and Israel

What British people were being toxic? They all thought Mae was a no hoper for months you are talking out your arse

All in all I'd also agree that this year has somehow been very toxic and that the forum was more and more toxic. I wouldn't even exclude myself from that, well at least I sometimes have very strong opinions too. Sometimes you get carried away a little bit.

This year feels and felt very special somehow. Very ridiculous in certain aspects also. I guess we all need a good summer break now.

 

[MopManMoss]

And let's be honest, the jury vote in favour of is heavily message driven. I'm mean fair enough to vote for a self empowerment/ LGBTQI empowerment song but the song itself can't be the reason why many jurors had so high in their ranking.

Because he has one of the best male vocals of the contest? Gustaph got points from some of the most conservative nations in Eurovision, he wasnt getting 12 from Greece & Georgia and 5 from Albania on LGBT empowerment

 

[GermanBango]

All in all I'd also agree that this year has somehow been very toxic and that the forum was more and more toxic. I wouldn't even exclude myself from that, well at least I sometimes have very strong opinions too. Sometimes you get carried away a little bit.

This year feels and felt very special somehow. Very ridiculous in certain aspects also. I guess we all need a good summer break now.

Believe me, I‘m so down for my vacation to Turkey starting Wednesday.

 

[MopManMoss]

Believe me, I‘m so down for my vacation to Turkey starting Wednesday.

Lets hope for your sake their election goes smoothly

 

[aef]

Because he has one of the best male vocals of the contest? Gustaph got points from some of the most conservative nations in Eurovision, he wasnt getting 12 from Greece & Georgia and 5 from Albania on LGBT empowerment

Okay well we already talked about that. If it's mainly due to the vocals then alright. But that's not how I want the juries to (only) vote. Take other aspects into consideration too please.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

All in all I'd also agree that this year has somehow been very toxic and that the forum was more and more toxic. I wouldn't even exclude myself from that, well at least I sometimes have very strong opinions too. Sometimes you get carried away a little bit.

This year feels and felt very special somehow. Very ridiculous in certain aspects also. I guess we all need a good summer break now.

Yeah, people from the bubble behaved like animals.

They called contestants "desperate", "clowns", "pedophiles", "utter shite".

On every thread I wrote moderate comments even for songs I consider junk. I haven't been entering to Swedish thread at all.

E.g. I find Belgian song one complete junk of the 80's song but I wouldn't write something like that because fanwankers like @MopManMoss would most likely call me "arse" as he just did.

So I think this nice bubble of gays and other alledgedly open-minded people should go chilling for a while.

 

[MopManMoss]

Okay well we already talked about that. If it's mainly due to the vocals then alright. But that's not how I want the juries to (only) vote. Take other aspects into consideration too please.

Of course his very overt LGBTness would have been a factor with some of the western juries for sure that cannot be denied

 

[MopManMoss]

Yeah, people from the bubble behaved like animals.

They called contestants "desperate", "clowns", "pedophiles", "utter shite".

On every thread I wrote moderate comments even for songs I consider junk. I haven't been entering to Swedish thread at all.

E.g. I find Belgian song one complete junk of the 80's song but I wouldn't write something like that because fanwankers like @MopManMoss would most likely call me "arse" as he just did.

So I think this nice bubble of gays and other alledgedly open-minded people should go chilling for a while.

I didnt call you an arse I said you are talking out of your arse they are not the same thing darling, people are absolutely free to hate on Belgium and whoever else they see fit but the results are what they are

 

[aef]

Yeah, people from the bubble behaved like animals.

They called contestants "desperate", "clowns", "pedophiles", "utter shite".

On every thread I wrote moderate comments even for songs I consider junk. I haven't been entering to Swedish thread at all.

E.g. I find Belgian song one complete junk of the 80's song but I wouldn't write something like that because fanwankers like @MopManMoss would most likely call me "arse" as he just did.

So I think this nice bubble of gays and other alledgedly open-minded people should go chilling for a while.

Okay wow I didn't really read many comments like that. That's a shame if people really behaved like that. I don't know maybe I already blocked the right members so that's why I didn't ready such offensive comments.

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

Looking at the detailed jury results I have no words for the result. So many jurors had them between 20th and 26th place.

Even if you think the song is not good enough, they had amazing stage presence, good staging in general, good vocals. I feel like a juror from just rankes them in the bottom 5 because it's and not any fancy country he/she has more connection to. And this is such a shame.

And let's be honest, the jury vote in favour of is heavily message driven. I'm mean fair enough to vote for a self empowerment/ LGBTQI empowerment song but the song itself can't be the reason why many jurors had so high in their ranking.

I'm shocked about those jury placements of Slovenia.

 

[GermanBango]

Not someone crying over being called an „arse“ while simultaneously saying that people who have a different taste in music are „uneducated“ and „peasants“. I can’t.