EUROVISION 2020 - General Discussion Thread

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Please post any and all discussions regarding the contest itself, host country and city, organisation, rumours and other topics not related to any specific country's selection process.

 

[MalagaToledo]

Fun fact: I am not gonna vote for anyone in 2020. I only voted 2x. Last year I voted like a 10x for Roi and I never imagined he could be so low (middle of the table) especially with televoters. Before that I voted once looong time ago I don't remember for whom. Do you guys vote or ad u just like me, passive viewers?

 

[ESC94]

Fun fact: I am not gonna vote for anyone in 2020. I only voted 2x. Last year I voted like a 10x for Roi and I never imagined he could be so low (middle of the table) especially with televoters. Before that I voted once looong time ago I don't remember for whom. Do you guys vote or ad u just like me, passive viewers?

I´ve never voted in the contest, and I´m not planning to do so either. I just want to enjoy the show!!

 

[MalagaToledo]

I´ve never voted in the contest, and I´m not planning to do so either. I just want to enjoy the show!!

Very good. Unless, they change system to 80:20 in televoters benefits, I'm not going to vote either. At the end, jurry is always the one 2ho decides.

 

[Realest]

I voted 11x in the Semi and in the End she qualified with 3 Points Margin.
This Year I spent 8€ for all my Votes and I saw it as Compensation for all the NFs I was allowed to watch for Free.

 

[marty]

i dont vote since i usually dont care who will win.

 

[Loindici]

Fun fact: I am not gonna vote for anyone in 2020. I only voted 2x. Last year I voted like a 10x for Roi and I never imagined he could be so low (middle of the table) especially with televoters. Before that I voted once looong time ago I don't remember for whom. Do you guys vote or ad u just like me, passive viewers?

I'm a passive viewer for a very obvious reason

 

[FRFanESC]

Very good. Unless, they change system to 80:20 in televoters benefits, I'm not going to vote either. At the end, jurry is always the one 2ho decides.

Lol ? Netta ended up 3rd with juries, same with Duncan. Last time they "decided" (hate this word, btw) the winner, it was in 2015, when Mans came 3rd with the televote. You can't imagine how I hate people saying "awww, robbed by the juries" or things like that. Fortunately, juries are part of the contest.

Without them, we would've gotten Serhat 10th and, if I take the last results of my country (France), we would've gotten Madame Monsieur 17th and Bilal 18th, which wouldn't have been deserve at all, I think.

 

[Ana Raquel]

oh serhat being 10th would have been totally deserved

 

[MalagaToledo]

Lol ? Netta ended up 3rd with juries, same with Duncan. Last time they "decided" (hâte this word, btw) the winner, it was in 2015, when Mans came 3rd with the televote. You can't imagine how I hate people saying "awww, robbed by the juries" or things like that. Fortunately, juries are part of the contest I think.

You must be kidding me. 2019 was also the year where jurries decided that televote winners keiino from Norway didn't win, didn't even finish in top 5. If there were no juries, Norway would have won. So think twice before u say smth like that.

Also hurries affected IL Volo, lazaref, but I was OK with that because I didn't want esc to be held in Russia and many more.

 

[Loindici]

each method (jury and televote) has their own positives and negatives. Doing 50:50 is a good complement of both, so I don't see any point of changing it so urgently.

 

[pepe C]

Also hurries affected IL Volo, lazaref, but I was OK with that because I didn't want esc to be held in Russia and many more.

So it isn't about what you think is fair, but about your subjective opinions.

 

[FRFanESC]

You must be kidding me. 2019 was also the year where jurries decided that televote winners keiino from Norway didn't win, didn't even finish in top 5. If there were no juries, Norway would have won. So think twice before u say smth like that.

Also hurries affected IL Volo, lazaref, but I was OK with that because I didn't want esc to be held in Russia and many more.

What you say doesn't make any sense lmao. It's like if I say "2018 was also the year where televote decided that juries winner "Nobody but you" from Austria didn't win". I mean, it's their goal.

As Pepe C said just above my comment, It's not about your opinion on the topic, but your subjective opinion.

 

[MalagaToledo]

So it isn't about what you think is fair, but about your subjective opinions.

Jurries deciding the outcome of eurovision cause televote winners like il volo, lazaref, keiino.. aren't winners of esc and some of them aren't even in top 5 because jurries put them way too low is NOT my "subjective opinion". It's a FACT. GOODBYE and have a nice day.

 

[Realest]

We have around 7-8 Juryhate-Threads in this Forum

 

[MalagaToledo]

We have around 7-8 Juryhate-Threads in this Forum

I'm glad we have statistic analyst on our forum. I wonder why there is none of televotehate threads on this forum.

 

[MalagaToledo]

What you say doesn't make any sense lmao. It's like if I say "2018 was also the year where televote decided that juries winner "Nobody but you" from Austria didn't win". I mean, it's their goal.

As Pepe C said just above my comment, It's not about your opinion on the topic, but your subjective opinion.

Let me ask you a question and pls answer me honestly.
If you have to choose between only 2 options which one would have been?
80:20 in televoters advantage or 80:20 in jurries favour. So I can close this discussion with you. Have a nice day.

 

[FRFanESC]

Jurries deciding the outcome of eurovision cause televote winners like il volo, lazaref, keiino.. aren't winners of esc and some of them aren't even in top 5 because jurries put them way too low is NOT my "subjective opinion". It's a FACT. GOODBYE and have a nice day.

Absolutely, just like "Juries deciding the outcome of eurovision cause juries winners like Dami Im, Cesar Sampson, Tamara Todevska.. aren't winners of esc and some of them aren't even in top 5 because juries put them way too low isn't a "subjective opinion". It's a FACT".

Let me ask you a question and pls answer me honestly.
If you have to choose between only 2 options which one would have been?
80:20 in televoters advantage or 80:20 in jurries favour. So I can close this discussion with you. Have a nice day.

None of them, I simply choose 50:50, as it is. For me it is just the perfect mixture and I don't see a single reason to change this.

 

[andimuhammadrifki]

it isn't 50:50 actually. it's cumulative, jury score + televote score. what if it's the average of jury score and televote score ((jury+televote)/2)?

 

[MalagaToledo]

Absolutely, just like "Jurries deciding the outcome of eurovision cause juries winners like Dami Im, Cesar Sampson, Tamara Todevska.. aren't winners of esc and some of them aren't even in top 5 because juries put them way too low isn't a "subjective opinion". It's a FACT".



None of them, I simply choose 50:50, as it is. For me it is just the perfect mixture and I don't see a single reason to change this.

You declining to give me answer tells me more than enough. You don't have to answer me, it's obvious you are in jurry favour. Let me tell you 2 more sentences before I never talk to you again. Eurovision is invented for us, wieviers to be entertained. It wasn't invented for jurries. My last sentence to you is: you can ask any artist and all of them would tell you if they can choose, they would prefer televote win instead of jurry win including jurry winner Zelmerow. They perform for people, they do concerts for people and they earn their money thanks to people. Jurries don't have anything to with it except maybe some music awards.

I wish you all the best in your life. Even if u try to talk to me, I won't respond.

 

[Realest]

Actually Eurovision was invented for the Juries back in 1956