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Estonia ESTONIA 2019 - Victor Crone - Storm

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  • 12

    24 13.4%
  • 10

    17 9.5%
  • 8

    13 7.3%
  • 7

    20 11.2%
  • 6

    20 11.2%
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    22 12.3%
  • 4

    12 6.7%
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    13 7.3%
  • 2

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    4 2.2%
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    26 14.5%

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wtf

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Highlight of the night were the interval acts: Getter and Elina. Both singing live, having unpretentious quality songs, ironically serving better vocals than the chosen singer from Sweden. xheart
 

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Victor was lucky that Sissi wasnt 2nd with the Juries, otherwise he would have been out.

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Btw. 10 Points.

How do you know that? Sissi may have got 0 from televote
 

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How do you know that? Sissi may have got 0 from televote

No, Sissi got 6. They showed the Scoreboard for 2-3 Seconds and I calculated.
 

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And why are some people mad at the juries being Americans? Aren't professionals supposed to not think about Eurovision anyway? Just ranking the vocals, production, delivery etc? Which is exactly what they did! Storm is just very unoriginal and he didn't deliver at semi finals either, so.. totally justified ranking.
 

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It'll be interesting to see what the % of votes was! :rolleyes: But overall, I'd rather televoters get what they want, especially if the winning margin was large. Whatever happens in May, we've only ourselves to blame! :lol:

If they go for int. juries again next year, less americans please. They don't even take part in Eurovision so I'm not sure what the point of having so many of them was. :rolleyes:
 

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It´s a okay song but Estonia wouldn´t be as high in my ranking this year as it was last year. Estonia´s song last year was my favorite in 2018.
 

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yeah the televote clearly wanting it so much that he made it out of a hole deeper than bilal's in france makes me less bitter about it. the people's voice is final. it would have been much worse if he went to the superfinal with jury help and then won a close vote.

ugh i wish i could be happy about this as i usually am about eesti laul but just knowing the options they had... :( they better at least change his staging substantially for eurovision, it's probably my biggest issue with it.
 

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If they go for int. juries again next year, less americans please. They don't even take part in Eurovision so I'm not sure what the point of having so many of them was. :rolleyes:

I think that was the point. Juries are not there to think what makes a perfect Eurovision entry, they're there to rank the quality like production, vocals, stage presence, etc. This is why juries were introduced to Eurovision too. They are not supposed to play any political games so .. having a few Americans is a nice addition imo. They served taste.
 

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And why are some people mad at the juries being Americans? Aren't professionals supposed to not think about Eurovision anyway? Just ranking the vocals, production, delivery etc? Which is exactly what they did! Storm is just very unoriginal and he didn't deliver at semi finals either, so.. totally justified ranking.

I think we should aim for juries that best represent European taste, if we want them to be a good indication of potential success. 'The only reason to have int. juries at all is to find out who might vote for us come May, and if 70% of them represent a whole different kind of taste, I don't see the point. :lol:
 

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At least we know for sure who will be juries last place in semifinal!

The sad thing is, tonight showed it well that the Eurovision juries would most likely hype Stefan and help him qualify despite a lower televoting result. I see Storm failing with both.
It's so sad Stefan did not win. I don't even like the song, but it would at least earn points from the juries. :(
 

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My MAIN problem with the show was they were asking Stefan like million questions (probably the most) and he clearly sucks in Estonian and we Estonians dont reallly appreciate someone who speaks broken language (especially with russian accent). That could have affected some voters. Even Victor talking just couple of Estonian words felt/looked much better.
 

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The sad thing is, tonight showed it well that the Eurovision juries would most likely hype Stefan and help him qualify despite a lower televoting result. I see Storm failing with both.
It's so sad Stefan did not win. I don't even like the song, but it would at least earn points from the juries. :(

Well, Stefan wouldn't have won anyway, it would have been Uku. He did a little better in the jury vote, but not by much.
 

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I think we should aim for juries that best represent European taste, if we want them to be a good indication of potential success. 'The only reason to have int. juries at all is to find out who might vote for us come May, and if 70% of them represent a whole different kind of taste, I don't see the point. :lol:

I disagree, the only reason they had international juries was to see how Estonian music is seen from the outside. And it worked well imo.
Their votes were professional and easily explained, so I don't get the fuss. They did their job really well.
 

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Lost and found in the streets of Verona in 2013. 2 points.
 

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I disagree, the only reason they had international juries was to see how Estonian music is seen from the outside. And it worked well imo.
Their votes were professional and easily explained, so I don't get the fuss. They did their job really well.

Problem is if int. Jury and GP taste are so different the result is messy and unpredictable.
 

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My MAIN problem with the show was they were asking Stefan like million questions (probably the most) and he clearly sucks in Estonian and we Estonians dont reallly appreciate someone who speaks broken language (especially with russian accent). That could have affected some voters. Even Victor talking just couple of Estonian words felt/looked much better.

Sounds ridiculous. Everybody I know likes Stefan's personality and for example, Tanja has always been loved despite having a broken language. And in case you're right, I hope Estonians can do better than that. :rolleyes:
 

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Anyways, I hope Victor won by a huge margin then. Would make it a bit more acceptable. I mean, if people really loved it SO much.
 

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Sounds ridiculous. Everybody I know likes Stefan's personality and for example, Tanja has always been loved despite having a broken language. And in case you're right, I hope Estonians can do better than that. :rolleyes:

Are you kidding? Tanja`s Estonian is like million times better than Stefan`s. He even spoke some russian words tonight and some sentences were a total mess plus he had difficulties to say what he wants. It made me cringe and I am not alone.
 
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